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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« on: September 06, 2018, 07:06:34 AM »
Adavo has Sudachi? Are you sure? I have been there three weeks ago -no Sudachi. Real Sudachi. Hanayuzu is not Sudachi, that's false.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichanglemons
« on: September 04, 2018, 10:49:15 AM »
"Weird. The arboretum's page uses the phrase "Ichang lemon": (first result)

and they also write Citrus japonica and show Citrus (Fortunella) hindsii on their pictures. "Ichanglemon" in this case is clearly C. ichangensis not C. wilsonii

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Swamp Lemon Adventure!
« on: September 03, 2018, 05:41:03 AM »
Obviously there are two differnt kind of PT-flowers. Some paperthin and big diameter and others like the one shown on the picture. But all of them without remarkable fragrance.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichanglemons
« on: September 03, 2018, 05:33:17 AM »
But "Citrus cavaleriei" is just C. ichangensis' name by Linné. Not Ichanglemon.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Soon To Be Released By The USDA
« on: August 20, 2018, 07:26:30 AM »

"1/16 of poncirus pedigree and not bred for hardiness"

so 1/16 poncirus is for taste  ;)

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: citrus grown from seed shows more cold hardiness
« on: August 14, 2018, 03:13:39 PM »
Dr Manner's estimation or result of scientific investigation?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichanglemons
« on: August 14, 2018, 06:11:43 AM »
Thank you, Ilya. Niels Rodin says, 153 is the best (tasting). I will see, if there is much difference. Now I have all of them  ;)

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: citrus grown from seed shows more cold hardiness
« on: August 13, 2018, 01:58:12 PM »
Reminds me of Juanita tangarine. The originial plant is said to have survived -18°C (?) but graftet Juanita's resistance to frost is far from that.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichanglemons
« on: August 13, 2018, 01:47:45 PM »
Sebastien is a private Citrus-enthusiast?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Ichanglemons
« on: August 13, 2018, 11:12:52 AM »
Hi, I have obtained some different(?) types of Ichanglemons. One is marked as "Sebastien" which seems to be a citrusbreeder or a nursery (did not find anything about it, but have a Ichangorange also marked "Sebastien"), one is marked as CRC1512, another 153. Is there any significant difference between these Ichanglemons?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichangquat other than 6-7-2
« on: July 22, 2018, 03:53:09 PM »
Mikke, Ilya says it tastes very interesting.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citrumelo seedlings
« on: June 12, 2018, 01:32:50 PM »
I think it is too early to make any assumptions. I have got my Citrumelo from Ilya. It was mislabeled and is not 5-Star. I have several seedlings and every seedling looks different. It seems to be completely zygotic.

IVIA says about 235: "El árbol es de tamaño mediano, porte abierto, compacto y prácticamente sin espinas." Without spines! Mine is full of spines! And they write about an elipsoid: el fruto .... tiene forma elipsoidal. The question is what kind of elipsoid?


This is mine. Which one is the better tasting?

I suppose it was grafted on PT? Bernhards "super hardy" Ichang was the first to die surrounded by Ichan-seedlings that all survived on their own roots... My C. ichangensis IVIA survived last winter without branch-damages   when even one of my PT died from bark cracks. It lost 50% of its leaves -no problem.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Hamlin x Flying Dragon
« on: June 02, 2018, 03:56:36 PM »
I grew HaminXFD from seed but don't remember who gave it to me. Maybe Andi. I lost the plant years ago. Nice that it still lives with you, Ilya!

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citsuma Prague
« on: April 28, 2018, 05:48:05 PM »
You have to feed the Prague very well if you are eager to get fruits  ;)

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citsuma Prague
« on: April 26, 2018, 01:28:46 PM »
Snek, your Prague has kept ists leaves. Very interesting. Mine gets rid of them in autumn.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Report on winter 2017/18
« on: April 25, 2018, 06:22:30 PM »
Location Vienna/Austria Zone 7b
After a very mild period of tempertures mostly above 0°C we had one week with minimum down to -15° and daytime temperatures below zero. During this week I protected my Citrumelo 5*, Ichangquat and PTXSunki with thick fleece. C. ichangensis IVIA got only some sunprotection and Chimera "Prague" stayed unprotected. Prague does not show any damage. It is now full of flowers. Citrus ichangensis lost 50% of its leaves but  nu further damage. Citrumelo 5* which is high crafted, has heavy cracks on the bark of the rootstock (PT!) and has lost all its leaves. It will lose wood aswell. Ichangquat is nearly dead, but PTXSunki has no damages. It lost all its leaves as it does nearly every year. I was a little bit frustrated because I thought high crafting would prevent frost-cracks on the bark but t oviously does not. Any ideas why not?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Clemyuz 3-3, ten degree tangerine
« on: April 25, 2018, 06:01:23 PM »
Isn't there a second variety of the Clemyuz called 2-2?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Eremolemon
« on: April 04, 2018, 09:13:52 AM »
Dear Citrus-Connaisseurs, what is known about the cold hardiness of Eremocitrus glaucaXMeyer-Lemon? Fruit quality seems to be good and if it could withstand -10° or less it would be a candidate for my citrus project.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Cold Hardry Grapefuit/Pommelos
« on: March 29, 2018, 03:51:47 AM »
SoCal2warm du you have Kunenbo? What about its hardiness? And do they come true from seed?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Hybrid Nin-Kat-MandarinXPoncirus
« on: March 27, 2018, 09:45:43 AM »
Interesting: "Swingle and Reece (1967) additionally noted that: "Citrandarins are much like citranges except that the mandarin orange parent greatly reduces the amount of bitter oil found in droplets inside the pulp-vesicles. In citranges this oil usually makes the fruit too bitter to eat." Thus Citrandarins should be preferred to Citranges?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Hybrid Nin-Kat-MandarinXPoncirus
« on: March 27, 2018, 02:35:22 AM »
Okay, we stick with PTXSunki  ;)

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Hybrid Nin-Kat-MandarinXPoncirus
« on: March 26, 2018, 01:21:15 PM »
Thank you Samodelkin, your picture resembels very much my plant. Narrow, serrated leaves and thorny twigs. But there is also a differenve: Mine does not have trifoliate leaves at all. Somtimes bifoliate but no more trifoliate. No poncirin sounds very good. Bitter is not a problem if it tastes good.

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