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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Hardy citrus growing in Switzerland
« on: January 25, 2019, 11:26:54 AM »
If we are really talking about clone 899A the fruit is good, very nice in fact. Sweet without any bittereness or resin aroma. All other clones I know are from my opinion not edible. My 899J has flowered oncein 2017. 899A flowered at least 7 years ago but mostly produces uncomplete "male" flowers.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Hardy citrus growing in Switzerland
« on: January 25, 2019, 07:06:47 AM »
Maesy what is your HRS899a? Is ist the hybrid by Bernhard Voss? I would be very surprised if this variety would turn out to be that hardy. Do you have an adult plant that blooms?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Graft chimeras and hardy citrus
« on: January 17, 2019, 05:27:44 AM »
I can't say if Prag is a chimera or not, but I can say, that it is very cold harda as a whole plant, but leaves are damaged at rather low temperatures. A closer look shows also, that parts of a leave's tissue die earlier than others. The second thig I can say for sure is, that it sometimes produces offshoots that are pure Poncirus. And -last but not least- Prag produces Satsuma-like fruit with no poncirin aftertaste and no bitterness at all.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: hybrids with precocious Poncirus
« on: January 17, 2019, 04:51:21 AM »
Mikkel, do I get you right? This FT gene sequence induces early blooming but does not effect fruit quality, size etc.? And it won't be transferred to a next generation? Neither via hybridisation nor via nucellar cloning?

911311 wrote
"If this article is true then your FD rootstock might have been a hybrid between a FD and standard Poncirus, not a pure FD."

I have never heard of PTXFD-Hybrids. Do they exist? Or are you talking hypothetically, 911311?

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Neonic migration
« on: January 08, 2019, 02:25:41 PM »
Depends on the type or Neonicotinoid, but Clothianidin for example can stay up to 5 years in ground. It is very poisonous to honeybees and other pollinators. No good idea to use it.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citrus ichangensis x sinensis (194)
« on: January 06, 2019, 03:01:39 PM »
The fruit is said to show nice quality? I bought mine from Adavo and it is marked as Shangjuan. Don'tknow if it is the same you are talking about.

My experience with high crafting is a bit mixed up. I have a Citrumelo, a Citrandarin and Chimera Prague high crafted at 120 cm. The stem of Citrumelo (dm 3cm) was severelydamaged by rind cracks. Cracks were only to be found on Poncirus-stem. Cirumelo parts were completely okay. I think it was exposed to the sun. The other stems were not harmed at all. Citrumelo recovered and bloomed late but plentyful. Last flowes in Dec.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: citrus grown from seed shows more cold hardiness
« on: December 31, 2018, 04:21:06 PM »
Some PT-seedlings have taproots, others don't.

Keraji. Much better than Thomasville. Tastes better, earlier ripe, better hardyness.

I was talking about my experience. And I ws talking about Kumquat. Might be that Citrangquat flowers earlier. But if you go far leaves I don't know why you are looking for Thomasville.

Keraji-Mandarin is hardier than Thomasville (is't it, Ilya) and has very nice smelling leaves (did not eat them)

Lavender 87, I can send you seed from Thomasville, but I don't think it is that hard to find. And it will take up to 20 years for first flowers on a Kumquat-hybrid (not sure, but my Kumquat-seedling flowered this year for its first time ab afte twenty years on a PT rootstock)

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Taichang lemon
« on: December 16, 2018, 07:56:10 AM »
Sylvain, it has trifoliate leaves.....

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Taichang lemon
« on: December 14, 2018, 03:34:42 PM »
Sylvain, is there any promising smell or taste? Does the budwood I got come from this specimen?

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citsuma Prague
« on: November 26, 2018, 03:50:57 AM »
after hard frost the leaves of my plant show some kind of "variegation": dead and living parts. The satsuma tissue is killed earlier than the Pt-tissue in the leave, I suppose.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Poncirus fruit comparison
« on: November 23, 2018, 04:55:54 AM »
So Poncirus+ seems to be most promising if one tries to use PT-fruits for consumation. I think of extracting aromas for tonic-water for new recipies.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichanquat 6-7-2
« on: November 20, 2018, 04:28:20 AM »
mine died last year because of rind-cracks. It was not well established (weak root system) I have bought a plant from Adavo. Hope it is the same specimen.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Citreae tribe hardiness
« on: November 07, 2018, 09:26:30 AM »
Florian, Poncirus polyandra is said to be a hybrid, as far as I know.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Swamp Lemon Adventure!
« on: October 23, 2018, 06:58:00 AM »
Eyeckr, if there is no difference, there is no Swamp Lemon  ;)
Ilya has shown the difference in juice colour and there shold be a lack mof resin aswell, if I got it right.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« on: September 06, 2018, 07:06:34 AM »
Adavo has Sudachi? Are you sure? I have been there three weeks ago -no Sudachi. Real Sudachi. Hanayuzu is not Sudachi, that's false.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichanglemons
« on: September 04, 2018, 10:49:15 AM »
"Weird. The arboretum's page uses the phrase "Ichang lemon": (first result)

and they also write Citrus japonica and show Citrus (Fortunella) hindsii on their pictures. "Ichanglemon" in this case is clearly C. ichangensis not C. wilsonii

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Swamp Lemon Adventure!
« on: September 03, 2018, 05:41:03 AM »
Obviously there are two differnt kind of PT-flowers. Some paperthin and big diameter and others like the one shown on the picture. But all of them without remarkable fragrance.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Ichanglemons
« on: September 03, 2018, 05:33:17 AM »
But "Citrus cavaleriei" is just C. ichangensis' name by Linné. Not Ichanglemon.

Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Soon To Be Released By The USDA
« on: August 20, 2018, 07:26:30 AM »

"1/16 of poncirus pedigree and not bred for hardiness"

so 1/16 poncirus is for taste  ;)

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