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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID please...
« on: July 31, 2018, 03:38:38 AM »
Looks like Guabiju, Myrcianthes Pungens.
Congratulations on the first fruits!

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Hi Heinrich,

Thank you for sharing your experience and adding some extra data points. Your story sort of confirms my expectations and I had a very similar thing happen to me, except that last year from 10 seeds that I planted in March three sprouted, but only in August, after the pot had been half forgotten and given up on and had dried out and been rewatered several times during the hot summer. I was quite surprised to see them sprout after such a long time, hot temperatures and these cycles of drying out and rehydrating, and so I guessed that they might be more temperate in their nature and benefit from some sort of stratification process. Could be cold stratification or could be by drying and rehydrating. The ones that are sprouting now over here have been in pots that I have allowed to dry out slightly before rewatering them again.
A third seedling is sprouting now.
Good luck with the seeds of this year. I won’t throw the ones away that don’t sprout this year, but keep them til next!




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Here an update on the seeds of C Guazumifolia.

In April I received from Marcos two seeds that were dried and eight seeds that were kept moist. Both batches were sown in a small container with normal potting soil and placed in a small germinator with bottom heat in front of a window.

They both did absolutely nothing for months, while all my other Myrtaceae seeds sprouted and grew away.

And then last week out of nothing one seedling emerged from each pot. Two or three days apart from each other.
So far 1 out of the 2 dried seeds germinated and 1 out of the 8 moist seeds. They just really seem to take their time. 3 months at least.

Very happy to have these going and as I suspected they might be pretty ok with drying out.

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Vitiga, That is a very nice looking plant, how old is it?

I have collected seeds from a couple of different regions and in my limited experience there seem to be 3 general leaf types: long and hairy, large and small. But sweetness of the fruit seems to be a totally independent trait. In all three types there are people who claim to have a ‘sweet’ type. And that would make sense, in apples and peaches sweetness is also not correlated to leaf type or growth habit.
The only correlation I have seen so far is that the large leaves type with downy leaves is extremely vigorous and grows into a very large tree. The others are much easier to grow in pots.

So there is no way to tell what you have until you taste it!

The tree in your picture definitely looks like an Uvaia, I would classify it in the medium to small leaves-type, it probably doesn’t have any down or fuzz on the leaves, am I right? The fruits may turn out round or pear-shaped. You’ll just have to wait and see. Please report back when you have fruit!

Grapebush: I’ll send you the link

Solko

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Grapebush: Yes, I got your post on Facebook, that is terrible what happened. They have small greenhouses here that you can fix to the wall on your balcony, I will send you a link soon, that might be a good idea to protect your plants. I have been able to overwinter these ones inside last winter, next winter they go into an I heated greenhouse, so I don’t know if they’ll still look as good this time next year. ???

Cassio: thank you for the extra information. It seems the trees from your seeds remain a little bit smaller than some of the others. They didn’t set any fruit this year, but if they bloom again next year, I hope they will. If the fruit turns out to be to sour for my taste - I have never tasted any Uvaia yet - I will still keep these ones and try to cross them with a sweeter type. I think the fast fruiting is a very attractive trait in these rare fruits!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: P Tang
« on: May 16, 2018, 04:26:32 PM »
Hahaha, mine doesn’t do that... ;D

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What a beautiful plant! Mine loses all its leaves every spring, but I have it exposed to frost every winter as well... I hope it fruits soon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A wealth of different types of Uvaia
« on: April 24, 2018, 03:57:39 PM »
Update:

Cassio, it seems that your own plant gives seedlings that flower just as fast as Heinrich’s plant.
We have an absolute winner in terms of precocity here: the Uvaia’s I got from Cassio just over a year ago. Two of the three surviving seedlings flowered within 15 months of planting the seeds. That is pretty incredible, also when you consider that they are the smallest variety of Uvaia that I have. The seedlings were pretty chlorotic and sensitive at the beginning and a few of them died, but that has probably more to do with the soil and conditions I am able to give them. I kept them out of direct sun. Nonetheless three healthy plants survived of that batch and I am pretty impressed. I hope they will set some fruit, but you have a unique mother plant there, Cassio!

I am posting an update here, same plants, one year later...


These are the different types I have



Giant Type - Velvety leaves


Large type - velvety leaves


Regular type - velvety leaves


Round type from HuertasUrbanas - hairless leaves


Dwarf type from Cassio - small hairless leaves and flowers after 15 months from seed!


Close up of the first flower on one plant


Close up of a cluster of three flowers on a second plant from Cassio


Hope you like the pictures!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Innarched and grafted Jaboticaba trees
« on: April 05, 2018, 07:46:09 AM »
Fantastic result of a beautiful experiment.
It is really good to see one of your experiments paying off - and then so quickly as well. I have been following all your double rootstock experiments with great interest and like to experiment a lot myself. Most often to find that things don't really have the expected result. But this is great!
Thank you for posting! And ood luck on all the other experiments

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My experience with E Dysenterica is that it is so hard to germinate and keep alive that it is hard to tell what kills it when it is young; city water, the sun, soil ph or other preferences like temperature and humidity - and it doesn't like small pots. As a seedling it is, like many Myrtaceae, very slow growing. Full trees seem to get quite large and obviously thrive in full sun. I've only seen large trees as singular trees - it doesn't show wether that tree grew up as a seedling in the shade of other bushes and then outgrew them.
As to the claim that it acts as a laxative, I have no firsthand experience eating the fruit, but it has the shortest possible shelf life - you have to eat it straight of the tree or it starts to ferment. That can probably account for it's nickname. There are a lot of better alternatives out there in order to wind up drunk on the toilet  ;)

For E pyriformis I can confirm that there are varieties that are extremely slow growing - when young - and others that grow pretty fast, from barely 10 cm in the first year to around 60 cm.

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Yes, that is a great idea. But it also may be a good experiment to dry a few seeds at the same time and rehydrate them after a month. I don’t really understand what makes them germinate. I tried 3 times to germinate a batch of five to ten seeds of these. Fresh seeds in a small container with bottom heat, like I germinate all Myrtaceae. But twice nothing came up and the last time it took them 2 to 4 months for three to germinate, of which two died.
It is an interesting Campomanesia because it grows in colder climates with some sort of winter, so I started wondering wether it needs a small cool period, or even to be dried and rehydrated to start germinating. If you could do a small experiment with three different batches of seeds - if you have enough seeds, that would be very helpful to figure this out.

Feijoa and Ugni - the other coldhardy Myrtaceae all tolerate to be dried and rehydrated. But they do sprout better when just freshly sown.

Enjoy the fruits!

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Great review!
I'm really looking forward to grow this one. They are hard to come by in Europe and seed germination is not very predictable.

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I think the Pitanga do cerrado is a different botanical species with a dwarf habit and often a slightly different type of leaves. The one you have looks like Eugenia Uniflora to me, but I am not a botanist.
When you offer seeds for sale it is often helpful to say upfront how sure you are of the identification or wether you are just guessing. There are a lot of varieties of Eugenia Uniflora out there and they can be very different looking from one another. Some of them are reportedly very good!

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That looks great! And a beautiful Uvaia!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: compatible grafting
« on: February 18, 2018, 03:18:46 PM »
Don't know of anything. I even just thought that loquat could be grafted onto quince, not the other way around.

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Thank you for clarifying that, Millet, that explains a lot of what is happening in my greenhouse this winter...

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Who has cocktail tree? Need your advices.
« on: February 11, 2018, 03:02:40 AM »
Very nice looking tree and grafts. I only have some potted small multigrafted trees, which i grafted in order to keep my scionwood alive. But they are fun to try to keep growing. In my cold climate the differences in vigor between different varieties seems to become more pronounced though.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I made an uvaia mermelade
« on: January 26, 2018, 04:59:12 AM »
Marcos, thanks for the background information. It seems indeed that there are sweet and acid types of Uvaia, as well as the hybrids and the velvety types.... as you said, all very confusing. That is why I wanted to find out wether there are a lot of different flavors within all the Uvaia’s.


And Joe,
yes, the Eugenia genus is very mysterious, but that is also part of the fun of collecting them.
Do you think you can post some pictures of your Ubajai, so we can compare the leaf type.
I found the thread where I saw an Uvaia with the same type of leaves:
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=1963.0
It is the last picture in Adams post. He also says that his plant is very different from Ubajai, if you examine them next to each other. He said the fruit as good.
If you ever get any seeds of your plant, I would be interested!





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I made an uvaia mermelade
« on: January 25, 2018, 05:53:04 PM »
Your plant looks very different from all the Uvaia’s I have, Joe. But mine are all still a bit smaller. To me your plant looks more like my Ubajai.
In an old post Adam from Flying Fox Fruits also has pictures from an Uvaia with the same broad leaves with veins in them. Maybe he could tell you for sure.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I made an uvaia mermelade
« on: January 25, 2018, 10:02:21 AM »
That looks delicious!

Do you find a lot of variability in the taste, size and sweetness of all your Uvaia’s? I know that you have trees from a lot of different sources and I was wondering how variable the different fruits and flavors are.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Define "dappled shade"...
« on: January 18, 2018, 04:28:56 AM »
That is a good question.

I wouldn't know anything about an official interpretation of the terms, but I myself do intuitively distinguish between the two. I have lost some Salvia species when i planted them in part shade, while another patch in dappled shade thrived. The way I see it is that it has to do with the plants capacity to pump up water in dry air conditions. The salvia's that were in three hours of continuous sun, either morning sun or midday sun just got wilted leaves the moment the sun hit, and that progressed to dead leaf edges and finally the plants dying. The ones in dappled shade also had wilted leaves sometimes, when patches of sunlight hit, but because sun and shade alternate throughout the day, the evaporation never truly outpaced the water their roots could pump up. They did better than the ones in full shade, which also survived, but never really grew much.

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Temperate Fruit Buy, Sell, & Trade / Re: Ugni molinae
« on: January 12, 2018, 04:49:53 AM »
Hi Mikkel,

Ugni Molinae ripens around October here, if you remind me next October, I can send you some seeds.

Solko

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: 2017 Wild Pawpaw Watch Thread
« on: January 04, 2018, 04:54:16 PM »
Here are some pictures of the Pawpaw festival I managed to get to last October in the Netherlands. It was great! They really have all the varieties there and you could see, taste and learn everything about Pawpaws

I had my first taste of Pawpaw and it was absolutely delicious. I had read about this fruit for over 8 years and never tasted one... This is a very very good fruit. I drove 2 hours to get to the Country Winery  http://www.freshplaza.com/article/141943/Biggest-paw-paw-production-of-Northern-Europe-in-the-Nijverdal

They had lots of things going on and were selling Pawpaw trees, seeds, jam, pie and even Pawpaw beer. If you are ever in the neighborhood, go take a look there. He is the only guy that sells Petersons Pawpaws in Europe, he has a license from him and knows Mr. Peterson personally.

Here are the pictures:

A beautiful place and a sunny day:




The propagation greenhouse




The Pawpaw Orchard




Some of the grafted plants for sale






My prize and bounty after a very nice daytrip




Hope you enjoyed the pictures - I'll have to wait a couple of years for my first fruits...

Oh, I almost forgot, this is their website: http://www.countrywinery.nl/

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Hi Carlos,

Your seeds arrived today, they look good and I will get them planted as soon as possible. Thank you very much!
Solko

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