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Thanks again to everybody for tremendous response. Sorry to say that the Sapote de Mico is already sold out.

glad u are getting back on your feet!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: USPS irradiating packages?
« on: August 13, 2018, 06:51:35 PM »
thanks again for info everyone!

considering the brutal heat, i guess i have been extremely lucky so far...only a few plants have died.

second question:

i wonder if there is a product that you can buy, that's almost like a disposable thermometer, that can tell you how hot the package got during transit?

Or maybe there is an item you can include with a shipment to determine if temps went above 100F?
The cheapest and easiest way to do it is by using a greenhouse min max thermometer. But that will only give you one single top temperature and bottom temperature.
Best way to go is with a temperature data logger.  That will give you hourly min and max temperatures recorded and you can plug it into a computer and get a graph. I did this for a while, sending packages back and forth across the country. Works very well. Forget the brand name right now.
I wish i had included a GPS tracker in the package, then can have an idea of the routing, and where those temperature occueed, where the packkage is, and for how long it is there. But that gets a lot more pricey.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: USPS irradiating packages?
« on: August 13, 2018, 05:11:44 PM »
second question:

i wonder if there is a product that you can buy, that's almost like a disposable thermometer, that can tell you how hot the package got during transit?

Or maybe there is an item you can include with a shipment to determine if temps went above 100F? 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: USPS irradiating packages?
« on: August 13, 2018, 05:09:19 PM »
thanks everyone....yes probably delayed heat damage!!!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / USPS irradiating packages?
« on: August 13, 2018, 12:57:58 PM »
I'm not sure if they are, but I've had a couple trees that I sent recently that were in perfect condition when they arrived, and they suddenly die afterwards...(maybe just because of some other reason, and because they are young?)

wondering how often the USPS irradiates packages?  I tried to look into it, but the information I found was vague.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia AÁu Paulista 'Otto Anderson'
« on: August 12, 2018, 12:21:12 PM »
I though Otto Anderson made a mistake with his Paulista and it was actually a Phitrantha Vermelha da ESALQ
as recently stated by Flying Fox Fruits

Otto didn't make the mistake, it was just mislabeled when we collected it, so a miscommunication of sorts...there are so many varieties that carry the name Otto Andersen, it gets confusing...especially when the genus is the same as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia rivularis, 50 years old
« on: August 09, 2018, 12:10:48 PM »
sounds like a good fruit, maybe a superior variety of P. rivularis that is not found in Brazil?

good work!

keep us posted....

Yes, there you can read and listen to Josť Radins, he wrote that the fruit is very good:

" Los frutos son globosos, de 1,5-2 cm. de diŠmetro, lisos, rojos, morados a casi negras cuando maduran, de pulpa clara, dulce y muy sabrosos."

"The fruits are globose, 1.5-2 cm. of diameter, smooth, red, purple to almost black when ripe, of clear, sweet and very tasty pulp."

It seems that I will taste some fruits by october, I hope so!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia rivularis, 50 years old
« on: August 08, 2018, 03:35:45 PM »
yes thanks for sharing, i have one almost 10yr old and the bark on the trunk still hasn't started to peel

i was curious to see the caulis exfoliating, thanks for finally showing me what it looks like

mine still seems to be years away from fruiting, but is about 6ft tall...seems pretty easy to grow, it survived cold weather no issues, down to 27F or so for many hours (20?)

mine doesn't have peeling bark yet....but i will have to check again..the trunk is like 3-4 inch in diameter.

Thatís a good sized fruit for such a small tree. What if you too worked the seedlings in the large pots? Youíll probably get better quality fruit from the larger more established root system.


i think topworking that old tree might have been terms of increasing productivity...

but that tree is long gone, i sold it to a friend, and it died because it was planted improperly...i think the wind help kill the tree too.

the mother tree from which I've been grafting from actually died...(I orginally called it  "Monstrinho", but need to change that name...I might just call it "precocious"..but haven't decided)

i was going to re-pot the tree, and thought the roots were solid in the 25 gal pot, but I found out they were not!  I tried to remove the tree from the 25 gal pot, and the roots fell apart..and I never could get the tree to recover, it took like 2-3 months at least for it to die....but luckily i kept back up trees...but  even those ended up dying...but i had back up trees from are succeptible to cold weather (i think more so than the old variety i had grown from fruit and spice park), and really hate any root stress....I also notice they suffer from branch die back all the time, i'm guessing due to fungus or something.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruiting Rollinia deliciosa in a pot
« on: August 05, 2018, 12:04:22 PM »
my oldest largest rollinia really flowering heavily...I think im going to step it a heavier soil..the mix I have now is way too light...needs watering all the time...I guess its going into a 65-100 gal next

i remember the first biribas I got from F&S park from seed, trying to grow them to fruit in a pot...

the tree had to be huge before it would even think about producing a fruit...and when i finally got some they were kind of runty...

now shit done changed....I got the realness...

check these small grafted trees I've been able to get fruit from...without having to deal with 25, 50, 100 gal pots...   what a waste of time those old seedlings were....

my trees now got fruits all over, at least 3 set on this little 3 gal here (the first 4 pics)...
I already fruited one in a 5 gal pot, about 3ft tall...and got a nice sized fruit too (last 3 pics)...

grafted is the way to go if you are growing in a pot...and not just from any tree, you must graft from one that's known to set lots of fruits from an early age...

haha no politics, religion, GMOs...and coming soon...NO SPORTS TALK!


BTW does Clyde Drexler still play for Portland Trail Blazers?

that guy was cool

Aussies- canít even get their drains to spin the right way. Whattaya expect?

Nuff said! Why don't they correct that!  Do these jamokes even have a soccer team? I  never saw any mentions during World Cup mania

I saw only South america in Russia, where was team USA ?? ::)
Zands started this derail. Excuse me for continuing it one moment longer.
At least Australia qualified for the world cup, USA team was ever more pathetic and did not even qualify. Yet the USA get to host the world cup in 2026? Money talks.

I too have a Variegated Eugenia brasiliensis. This is from the 'Yellow Grumichama' seeds I got from Roy.

pretty cool...yours has decent pattern so far...

i've seen some that look much different, with shades of mostly yellow and green, and the pattern is not the same...with no real defined margins between the colors, it's as if someone took a large paint brush, and did that technique Bob Ross does when he makes clouds, where u just kind of mash the tip against the canvas...

the variegation pattern on the one i have reminds me more of marble, with well defined margins between the colors, and it has shades of white, green, yellow, and then what looks almost like a grey-green.

I still have yet to see some fruits on my tree, although it did flower for the first time this year.

it's about 7y old? 6ft tall, in a 10 gal pot

They do sell orange fruited grumichamas and Garcinia brasiliensis. Obviously some Einstein made an error. Soccer will never be a in the top two football codes here as simulation is frowned on and it is the key skill needed. There was more action in the grandstand than on the pitch at the World Cup.

If it was an error, and not intentional, then it was beyond egregious...because the fruits are still attached to the caulis, everyone knows grumichamas fruit only at branch tips...

All my Grumichama fruits have the remains of the flower attached to the non-stem end. Doesn't look like they removed them for a prettier picture, so guessing not grumichama fruits.

there's only two explanations, both of which are unfavorable...

1) they don't know the difference between Garcinia fruits, and Eugenia fruits.


2) lacking an example of an actual yellow Grumichama, they made a cheeky attempt to pass off a fruit that superficially looks similar, known as Garcinia brasiliensis "Lemon Drop Mangosteen".

lol they even included a stem from the Garcinia in the photo....which of course doesn't have bark that exfoliates like Grumichama.

just making an announcement, as soon as I found out...

but what I have labeled in my collection as Plinia cauliflora (Otto Andersen) "Acu Paulista", is actually Plinia phitrantha (Otto Andersen) "Branca-Vinho"


this mistake was due to the fact that there are so many (12 I believe in total) varieties that were selected by Otto Andersen.  With all of them having his name attributed to them, it was easy to confuse the botanical and varietal names.  Too many damn names to keep up with, but as a seller and collector of super rare fruits, I do my best!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Flying Fox Fruits Nursery
« on: August 03, 2018, 05:46:31 PM »
just a reminder to check my ebay store!

I got some auctions that are ending on Sunday night,

some really rare items, hard to find anywhere else...

first grafted variegated Grumichama (Eugenia brasiliensis) to be sold on ebay!

I got one more to sell this year, don't miss your chance!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Flying Fox Fruits Nursery
« on: August 01, 2018, 07:06:55 PM »

-Thai dwarf mulberry

-Red jabo

-White jabo

-and Pitangatuba, close to fruiting size...

please check my ebay store!  thanks!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Suggestions for new fruit plants
« on: July 31, 2018, 10:24:55 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Firtst Pitangutuba
« on: July 28, 2018, 01:52:14 PM »
There are some that have more of a sweet component to the sour but none that I have ever tried which are pure sweet.

The orange ones in your scale are fully ripe, and would have the best potential flavor.  That green one in your hand was picked a bit too early and will be fully sour.

yes for sure, I have tasted fruit from over 40 seedlings, from several sources...some just better than others...and they must be eaten at the perfect time...too early is bad, too late maybe even worse.  Usually ripe is orange, but i have some that never turn orange, and stay yellow...I should have grafted trees by next season, but I'm still in the process of picking my favorites to graft.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jaboticaba issue
« on: July 28, 2018, 01:48:34 PM »
it look hot 'n' hungry.

feed organic fert, I like to use Espoma Tomato Tone or Holly Tone...don't go too heavy.

and make sure to water a lot.  If try to address pH issues and you use an iron product, it needs to be chelated Fe, not just regular Fe.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Flying Fox Fruits Nursery
« on: July 27, 2018, 12:41:35 PM »
some rare items on Ebay now!

ending Sunday about 8:00-8:10pm PST

here are some links to some of the more rare items i have for sale now, but please check my ebay store to see all the items for sale now.

Plinia phitrantha var. "Rosa de Pescoco"

Plinia cauliflora "Roxa Polpa/Purple Pulp" jabuticaba

Eugenia sulcata "wild pitanga"

Eugenia patrisii "Amazon Ruby Ubaia"

GRAFTED Eugenia calycina "savanna cherry"

Plinia spiritosantensis "Peluda de Cruz" jabuticaba

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