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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: June 01, 2022, 01:52:04 AM »
I guess I would need to see what it looks like but if you can get a bulldozer in there and make a dirt road, you can probably make a path for the drilling company.  I would think the bulldozer work and well would pay for themselves really quickly on a big farm operation.  Maybe some solar panels too.  Of course I havent seen it so I could be way off!  I know how it is people tell you do this do that with your property without seeing it first and you know some stuff just isnt going to happen for whatever reason. 

Water prices are probably the reason the grove was sold.  They are getting really out of control with the water and electric prices.  Solar panels and a well is the way to go if you can swing it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: June 01, 2022, 01:14:37 AM »
Pretty much all avocado trees alternate if they do a big fruit set.

I can tell the difference between a nabal tree and reed tree if the tree is in good health its obvious.  The fruit are very similar looking but nabal is very slightly more squat in shape and has a bigger nipple on top where the stem connects.  The spotting on the nabal is mkre spaced out and the skin color is more dull while still on the tree.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: June 01, 2022, 12:27:41 AM »
This was a super ripe reed from end of september


Some other random pics I had from last year

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Santa clara




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: June 01, 2022, 12:07:40 AM »
I dont know how long nabal will hold on the tree.  May seems to be good here and into June.  My tree isnt old enough to know how long they will go since it hasnt made loads of fruit yet.  We had maybe 10 nabals this year and there still a few left.  Had one a week ago and it was awesome.  Reed is already good here too but will go into August and September.  Nabal seems to be about 1month ahead of reed for me. 

The nabal tree grow like beasts too, i planted a bunch of them and they grow faster than any other type and just look super strong and healthy.  Seems like a stellar variety.  Im guessing the problem is long term the trees get too big but thats just a guess.  Maybe thats why reed is more popular, they seem to be a little smaller more manageable tree. 

This picture was from 2021



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 31, 2022, 11:43:24 PM »
Wow thats awesome.   8)  living your dreams and going big or going home, only live once and all that!

For beer personally I just mostly like 3 ingredients.  Malted wheat or barley, hops and yeast.  Not really into flavored beer but passionfruit, citrus, lychee, peach, raspberry are all good additives.  Marijuana terpine extracs probably would be a big seller too.  Not sure if anyone has done that one yet.  I saw a beer called terp sauce the other day at the store but didnt read what they put in it.  I think you can buy terpine extracts.  Theres certain terpines that exist not only in marijuana but also citrus and mangos and every other kind of plants.  You should try and checkout a terpine chart for some ideas.

Avocados seem to be the big cash crop if you can get your grove running good and have a good well.  Theres an old timer guy that is or was a member here that lives in fallbrook and had several groves and had it all on solar panels and well water.  He had something like 120 acres and 1000 solar panels!   He also had giant RO systems to lower the salinity of the ground water.  I guess thats how the pros do it.  Maybe you guys are neighbors.

Sounds like your grove is really awesome, I would like to come check it out some day.  Cycling sounds fun, dirt bike motorcycle would be fun too.   

Congrats and good luck with the projects!

Heres one of the terpine charts
https://www.seedcanary.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/png_20211027_113501_0000.png

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 31, 2022, 09:21:44 PM »
Mason did you say you tried Hellen?  When is the peak season?  According to the UC list, it is rated excellent and july-october. 

I remember picking in July last year and they weren't ready.

Anyone have one of these trees care to comment?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: IV Organics 3-in-1 Plant Guard reviews and thoughts?
« on: May 31, 2022, 05:02:17 PM »
Latex paint seems to do pretty well for preventing sunburn for me but its not perfect. Sometimes needs multiple coats.  If you really want to protect a special tree, you can wrap it with 90 aluminet shade cloth.  Thats what I do on banana racks. Otherwise my bananas get sunburn.  Reminds me i have a couple avocado stumps that need to be painted.  Need to go get on that. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 31, 2022, 04:41:53 PM »
The fujikawa avocado also has a hard spot in the flesh right above the seed which needs to be removed.  Otherwise, its a stellar fruit.

Janet did you buy more land in addition to the lot in fallbrook?  You guys gonna grow your own avocados for the resturaunt?

I finished picking hass here and have started picking reeds and they arent as good as thry will be but its still tasting pretty dang good. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: IV Organics 3-in-1 Plant Guard reviews and thoughts?
« on: May 31, 2022, 04:38:07 PM »
I use white latex paint mixed witn a little water.  Cheap and available.   The cheapest white paint I could find was ceiling paint. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 31, 2022, 12:44:22 PM »
for rootstocks, zutano is good.  reed isnt as good for a rootstock in the cold weather otherwise its ok.  Im just growing them out for fruit. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sweetest pink/red guava, Mexican Cream guava, and guavas in general
« on: May 30, 2022, 10:21:59 PM »
Quote from: snowjunky on May 30, 2022, 09:26:24 PM
The La Verne Nursery's Mexican Cream guava is sweet and very fragrant, but tiny fruit and unproductive.  The fruit sometimes has pink blush in the white/yellow flesh.  It is definitely different than the medium size Mexican Cream fruit I've seen on youtube and some websites.  I'm not sure why they would graft and propagate something so unworthy.

Because thats what la verne does.  They propogate a lot of mediocre avocados as well.   The care mostly about making maximum $, not selling the best stuff.  :)

Kaz, did your guava grafts take?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 30, 2022, 06:19:44 PM »
Ive got a bunch of reed seedlings growing that havent flowered yet but they are pretty big.  Gray martin said to do a girdle around the base of the trees in October and they will flower the following spring.   

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya hand pollination. When to stop.
« on: May 30, 2022, 01:48:36 AM »
I over did it one year and had to do a lot of thinning besides the time I wasted over doing it.

Once you have plenty of good sets on large limbs that are not going to be in direct sun then go ahead and stop IMO.  And wait a bit like seng said and remove the ones with funny shape. 

The less fruit definitely will imprive the size and sweetness.  You want to just keep the ones on the biggest branches down low on the tree, they will get the biggest.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 30, 2022, 12:27:10 AM »
Regarding pinkerton, it tends to grow ok when it isnt setting fruit on an off year.  When it sets lots of fruit, it sags and gets sun burn add starts looking poor and takes time to recover from the heavy fruit loads.  This tree is not a strong grower compared to hass.  And the 3 weeks it takes to ripen is just too long. Many people dont wait long enough and then end up wasting the fruit cutting it too soon because it starts to soften after 2 weeks a little but then needs another week.  Sometimes longer.  The flavor is very nice though I think it is one of the best for flavor.  But the growth and ripening issues just knock it out of being top tier to me.  And I sometimes have some fruit that have hard spots in the flesh.  I have 2 of these trees and they both perform this way.  I really wouldnt recommend people grow it if they have limited space, I think hass and sharwil perform better and have less issues and similar quality fruits.

 :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 29, 2022, 11:25:59 PM »
I will try top working more green gold trees on different rootstocks.  The one i got came from atkins and i assume is on a zutano seedling.  The fruit is good but my tree sucks.  I noticed the other day the rootstock has shot up some shoots and is starting to come up through the canopy.  I need to go trim those off.  Thats not a normal thing to happen unless the top worked part has some growth issues.  This is not a new tree either, its fairly old and large.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 28, 2022, 10:48:41 PM »
Quote from: pagnr on May 28, 2022, 09:43:38 PM
Twenty Years ago Bacon was the Avocado var of "choice" in Melbourne Australia for cold tolerance reasons. (That is from the pool of Avocados in Australia.)
That has probably faded away as the Melbourne climate moderates, and other types succeed also in home gardens.
It is probably still popular outside of Melbourne, in the foothills or down the coast.
Over the last few years around here, you couldn't hardly buy a Zutano Avocado, they were snapped up for rootstock seed off farm.
They are back now at roadside stalls, since the boom has eased.
Avocado fruit are  back to about $1 each in the supermarkets at times. Mainly Hass types.
I have to confess I am mainly choosing to buy bulk Zutanos for the seeds I can get out of them, and the farm stall prices.

Its a good rootstock.  I used mostly zutano and also some bacons for almost all my trees.  I planted a zutano just 2 or 3 years ago and ended up with close to 100 seeds off it already. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado tree not doing well
« on: May 28, 2022, 09:24:25 PM »
The fish emulsions can have salt in them as well.  Try just using only mulch until the tree recovers. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 28, 2022, 09:21:45 PM »
Every year I trim 5 to 10ft off the bacon tree and it just keeps getting bigger.  Its just too big of a tree and not much commercial value so I am going to top work it with something smaller.  Maybe just keep a few smaller branches of bacon.  Like 10 or 15 bacons per year is all I really want. 



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 28, 2022, 08:42:43 PM »
Lets talk about bacon avocado.  I have a huge bacon tree that makes hundreds of fruit.  The tree is beatiful and performs awesome.  The problem is it grows so large and makes so many fruit I cant use even a fraction of them.  And people dont really want to buy it.  So what to do with it?  Its not that I dont like bacon, its just not very practical.  So you can see the problems with some of these isnt always it grows poorly or doesnt produce, its just how many bacon or zutanos can you sell?  Zutano is the same way.  Super vigorous, makes hundreds of fruit, but no one wants them.  If they stayed somewhat small then I wouldnt mind keeping one around but these things turn in monsters.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 28, 2022, 08:31:31 PM »
Quote from: SHV on May 28, 2022, 06:34:10 PM
Love me a good controversial post. 
Brad- if you could pick one avocado other than Hass to start an orchard where you live considering growth habit, productivity, fruit flavor, and market value, what would you choose?
I’m still picking Hass off my trees and they are damn good this late in the season. Personally, I need a variety to cover the other 6 months of the year when the Hass trees are picked clean.

I dont know tough question.  If you want to sell to a packing house then hass, gem, lamb are the best.  Those are great commercial trees.   For me I just have a small grove and dont want to sell to a packing house.  Its more of a for fun make a few extra bucks botique thing.  So for that I chose to plant hass, sharwil, reed, and nabals a few GEM, lamb, and gwens.  Even though I think GEM is overhyped, it is a nice tree and the fruit is pretty good, its a good commercial tree.

For late season, I think reed has the best flavor and produces ok and grows ok.  Lamb grows better and more productive but it just isnt as good tasting as hass or reed IMO. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 28, 2022, 05:58:07 PM »
Quote from: johnb51 on May 28, 2022, 10:42:42 AM
Quote from: spaugh on May 27, 2022, 03:20:19 PM
The optimal CA growing location is reported to be 5-15 miles inland from the coast on south facing granite hills just below the crest.  And optimal temperature is around 80F.

There are of course many trees growing fine outside of those general parameters.   :)
So I guess Fallbrook is in that zone?  Is it a lot hotter where you're located?

Im not really sure.  Fallbrook is maybe slightly cooler than here but not by a lot.  Everyone is fallbrook is growing avocados though so theres extra moisture in the air from all the irrigation.  No one around here is farming, Im surrounded by miles of wilderness area and its all dry. 

I kind of wish I had moved to fallbrook.  After the market tanked in 08 I did look at a house there on 10 acres that had a pool and decent house, solar system, 500 mature citrus and avocado trees that was going for 400k.  It was further than we wanted to drive for work though. 

I havent been there but Ive been told Carpenteria is the ideal place.  Not even sure where that is, maybe ventura area?  I think that area north of LA on the coast has some nice weather.  Santa Barbra also nice weather.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tomatoes reseeding in zone 6-7
« on: May 28, 2022, 12:28:55 AM »
Quote from: Galatians522 on May 27, 2022, 11:32:17 PM
Very interestung! Most annual plants that can't survive freezing temperatures have seeds that will survive being frozen as long as they are completely dry. I know someone who stores all their garden seeds in the freezer--yes even beans and other tender plants like luffa. They even stored sugar apple seeds that way. I was shocked when those same sugar apple seeds sprouted after 6 months or more in the freezer! I don't have the nerve to pull stuff like that. With my luck I would stick them in there before they were completely dry and kill everything.  ::)

The had some giant seed bank in sweden or norway where they had millions of seeds stored frozen.  It was supposed to be the Noahs ark of seeds in case there was a major catastrophy and the world needed to replant.  Something happened with it and it flooded or something.  Would have to go check what went wrong.  But the point is they were freezing the seeds which makes them last much longer. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado tree not doing well
« on: May 27, 2022, 03:26:51 PM »
The flowering and then dropping leaves is normal.  BUT, if the leaves already have too much salt buildup, thry tend to fall off harder and end up doing more damage that if the salt level is low.  When the salt level in the plant is low, the leaf drop happens slower and more gradual and the tree can easily reflush while its shedding the old stuff. 

Thats not necessarily your issue but thats one reason trees dump their leaves really hard in spring is the leaves are salt burnt.  Usually from city water, underwatering, lack of rain, and or chemical fertilizer use. 

If the issue was too much salt based fertilizer, try giving it a year off and just use mulch and maybe some composts and next spring the leaf drop will improve. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tomatoes reseeding in zone 6-7
« on: May 27, 2022, 03:22:52 PM »
Yes, they pop up everywhere.  Tomatos, squash, cilantro, onions, watermelons, cherimoyas, avocados,  sprouting all over the place. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Overhyped avocados
« on: May 27, 2022, 03:20:19 PM »
The optimal CA growing location is reported to be 5-15 miles inland from the coast on south facing granite hills just below the crest.  And optimal temperature is around 80F.

There are of course many trees growing fine outside of those general parameters.   :)


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