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Mark - not only did you get the ribbon, you're having a GREAT HAIR DAY !!!

I made a very, very strong loquat aperitif last year that was fantastic.  Tasted just like strong amaretto.  Was just wonderful.  Have to give credit to one of the forum members as I read about doing that here.

I love all sorts of home brews - its pretty amazing what we can make when we put our mind to it.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Soursop Seeds Free
« on: March 22, 2018, 03:17:27 PM »
Sorry folks - all the seeds that I had were put in the mail yesterday around 10am and only 3 forum members had gotten to me in time.

I had these laying around the house for a few weeks already and the wife was bugging me to use them or give them away or use them and from what I had read they germinate best if they're put into dirt within 30 days so.

If I get more I'll post up.  The last few times I was in whole foods they had soursop fruit but none of the fruit was in good shape and I'm not going to spend $10.00 a pound to end up throwing away the fruit.

Last summer I took one of the twistees from a store and cut it up in quarters and within 3 weeks those segments were pushing new growth from the base section that was put into the ground.

The big draw back to that is those plants from the quartered top are much, much, much smaller than the twistees that I just put into the ground whole.

From the looks of it, the quartered ones will need at least another year, maybe two before the will throw a flower.  Comparing those to the whole ones I put in the ground last summer is night and day - my whole ones are getting enormous and I'm guessing will end up flowering and fruiting this summer.

Just be prepared for the results to take a while if you use very small cut pieces.  A LONG time.

IF you're looking for more plant material, besides the local supermarkets you can always try going to the smoothie king franchisee in your neighborhood and asking there as well.  Its hit or miss but if you find somebody into recycling you could end up with an easy 50-100 tops and have plenty of material to get you going.  On my end I usually buy 1 pineapple a week at our local bodega so I've just been adding one new plant a week.  I get about 85% take rate with much better take rates in the summer than the winter time (summer was almost 100% take rate, winter has been about 60% take rate).

Citrus General Discussion / Re: Meyer Lemon leaf drop
« on: March 21, 2018, 10:55:14 PM »
Well the tree is finally showing signs of coming back to life as some leaves have started to push through - just the very, very beginnings - so the leaf drop lasted 2 months.

I did a general fertilizer application of the HD citrus/avocado mix about 2 weeks ago after I cleared out all the weeds in my tree mulch but will add another round of specialized fert when I get back from my business trip this weekend.

I had high hopes of the tree coming back as the branches remained a nice vibrant green but when I compared that tree to the key lime I have, man, that key lime bounced back sooooo much quicker than the meyer lemon did I was getting worried.

In the long run the only citrus I lost to the cold was a "orange-skinned lime".  I can't remember what the name is off-hand but it was very, very sour, so I wasn't a big fan on taste, but it produced a ton of fruit for such a small tree, so ultimately I'm not worried about replacing that one.

Getting back to them Meyer Lemon, with all the down time the tree had from the leaf drop, if I end up getting any bloom or fruit set, should I pick it off this year to let the tree concentrate on getting healthier and stronger, or is it one of those cases that the tree will only hold the fruit that its strong enough to hold like most citrus?

Thanks all.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Soursop Seeds Free
« on: March 18, 2018, 07:16:45 PM »
I bought the fruit a whole foods - not sure where they got it.

Down the middle of the fruit was "core" area that was tough but the area around the core was delicious.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Soursop Seeds Free
« on: March 18, 2018, 05:39:45 PM »
I'll even pay the postage if anybody wants them that can't get em.  I have about 50 of them.  PM me your address and I'll drop them in the mail on Tuesday.

Not sure if this will work for you or not, and if there back in the summer you may need to do it often, but goto any dog grooming salon in the area and see if they'll give you the dog hair.

Sprinkle the dog hair all around your property.  In the summertime with rain it'll knock the scent down, but it may be a cheap way to keep them off.

Other than that, like Donkey said, mmmm, Venison sausages.  Or even better, Venison jerky.  Venison jerky is just the best ever.

Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: What's wrong with my blueberry plant?
« on: March 16, 2018, 02:17:41 PM »
Viking Guy,

Just checked out that 247garden place.  Thank you very much for posting that. 


Citrus General Discussion / Lot less leaf miners this year
« on: March 04, 2018, 04:43:03 PM »
While I haven't had any flushes yet on my Meyer Lemon, my cocktail tree (Honeybell Tangelo, Ruby Red Grapefruit and Navel Orange) and my Key Lime have put on beautiful flushes of growth and the leaves just look amazing.

While I took a hit from that cold snap, I'm pretty sure its responsible for killing off the critters that did a lot of damage to my leaves last year.

Citrus General Discussion / Meyer Lemon leaf drop
« on: March 04, 2018, 04:40:59 PM »
So, my Meyer Lemon lost all but 1 of its leaves in the lovely cold snap we had a few weeks ago but it hasn't started flushing any new growth yet.

I pruned the tree to shape it a bit, and the branches are still a nice green color, but I'm getting worried as my Key Lime that dropped 100% of its leaves has flushed and filled in its canopy wonderfully.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit at whole foods
« on: March 04, 2018, 04:38:00 PM »
So, I was back in Whole Foods yesterday and this time they had jackfruit cut into quarters for around $10 bucks a quarter.

They had both orange ones and yellow ones - and for $10 bucks i decided to try one of the orange ones (and of course, get some seeds :-))

Not bad.  No crunch or crispyness from the fruit what-so-ever, but the tasted was pretty good - combination of juicy fruit gum and cantaloupe.

I ended up with around 20 seeds so time for a trip to HD to pickup a bag of soil to start them with.

Wife is getting ready to kill me with all the seedlings I have going.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cutting panicle on young mango trees
« on: March 04, 2018, 04:33:14 PM »
So, my 3 year old grafted "la nina" (P.R. variety of size XXL Mangos) has flowered profusely and I now have numerous BB size fruit on those panicles.  As I've read its way too early to let any of the fruit stay, so I'm going to trim the panicles back.

Should I break off / cut off the extension of the panicle (the individual branch that held the flowers and now holds the bb's) where it hits the main branch, or should I just cut the entire length of the panicle off?

On a bright note, the weight of the flowers has taken the tree from a rather upright tree and spread the canopy out crazy wide.  Its now about 7 feet wide where it had been about 2 feet wide before.  I'm thinking of adding some weight to the branches to keep the canopy wide open like it is now for the future growth - any thoughts on that?



Well, Sumo is my favorite citrus by far and they have zero seeds, so I'm not sure that really holds true.

Here's my update on apres freeze garden.

Lost:  9 seedling mango (4x atulfo, 5x store boughts), 1 seedling duncan grapefruit, 6x papaya, numerous mid-size bananas and about 10lbs of sweat for moving all my potted plants indoors and then out again.

Key Lime - lost 95% of its leaves and had a bunch of branch die back.  I pruned the deadwood and it started flushing new growth about 10 days ago.  Was in ground for about 1.5 years and bought at HD.

Meyer Lemon - lost all its leaves but 1 and also had a bunch of branch die back.  Deadwood pruned back but no flush yet.  Was in the ground for about 1.5 years and bought at HD.

Duncan grapefruit seedling.  This little guy was just about 1 year old when the freeze hit and had been in the ground about 7 months.  It was 18 inches before the freeze and now its down to about 4.5 or 5 inches.  After trimming the deadwood off the top 10 days ago it has also started flushing nicely.

Haas seedling avocado.  This one's a bit interesting.  I planted 3 avocado seeds into the same hole last august but only 1 of them sprouted.  It got to about 12 inches tall before the freeze and ended up freezing all the way to the stems.  It bounced back nicely, but here's the surprise.  One of the other pits I put in the ground that never sprouted last year sprouted now !!  It's the one on the left.  Wasn't expecting that.

Florida prince peach.  Just starting to push out some growth.  Should be no issues with this one.

Bananas were hammered.  I've kept cutting back all the dead/decaying tissue and have a stump or two pushing out growth.  Still holding off hope for some nanners this year but not sure.  Great new growth on the bottom of them all though.

Pineapple patch was where I put the most effort into saving as it is close to our house and has a southern face so it warms up earlier in the day.  I put paint drop cloth over the pineappples and ran an electric heater about 7 nights this year.  They seem to be fine except that one that is starting to yellow up a bit.  All pineapples are dole twist-tops from the store that I just stuck into the ground and they rooted.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit at whole foods
« on: February 19, 2018, 10:23:32 PM »
I purchased a soursop about a month ago from whole foods that also didn't ripen, but I bought it way too green.  I also got it to have starter seeds as well but did want to try.  I ended up with a bunch of seeds and only got 1 of them to sprout.

This one was much better than the first one I got and was halfway decent, but truly I've never had a great one so I can't say.  That said, I'm also planning on trying to germinate these seeds as well.  I need to look into how to germinate them (GA maybe?) as the take rate was terrible with that last drop.

The yellow DF were once again fantastic.

Thanks 4 the feedback folks.  I got a nice soursop and 2 vsry sweer yellow dragon fruit instead.

The last soursop I bought from Whole Foods a few weeks back never ripened. The sign said it was grown in the US and I know of some small commercial operations in the Redlands. I wonder if that is where it came from. I mainly bought it for rootstock seeds but at $10/lb I was hoping to at least taste a crappy quality fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit at whole foods
« on: February 17, 2018, 10:45:11 PM »
Thanks 4 the feedback folks.  I got a nice soursop and 2 vsry sweer yellow dragon fruit instead.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Jackfruit at whole foods
« on: February 17, 2018, 05:19:18 PM »
So while hitting up our local whole foods found this baby.  31.5lbs or there abouts.

Ive never tried jackfruit so this would be an expensive mistake.

Is the price at 2.49lb good and is this one worth getting or should i take a pass.



Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Golden or Yellow Dragon Fruit?
« on: February 16, 2018, 03:26:06 PM »
None of the 3 stems that i had rooted as they all started to rot.

The seeds have sprouted fantastically and are outgrowing the red df seeds that I started a month earlier.

Anyone think it possible that piece off dragonfruit will grow

anyone able to root it? I got a smaller stem last week and tried to root it. Will check in a few weeks...

So, after pricing out 1 gallon, 2 gallon and 5 gallon pots at Home Depot, there's no way I'm going to buy my pots there as the price is ridiculous. 

What's the best deal you've found on getting these, and should I be looking more to purchase fabric ones.  Mainly for being used for starting Mango and Avocados.

Also, while I"m thinking about it, what's everybody thoughts on the best place to get 30/40/50 gallon pots as well.  A few of the mango's that I started 2 years ago are due to be transplanted from the 10 gallon ones their in now.


While I was able to bring my potted ones in doors, all the seedlings that I had planted died from the multiple freezes.  Being small still, I mounded the base of the mangos with mulch and put blankets and towels over them and I hoped the ground radiation was going to be enough to keep them safe, but nope.  Only 1 survived the first freeze but that one went to plant heaven the night we hit 25.

The next door neighbor with the home depot special put coverings over the tree and a bucket of water alongside the tree.  The tree handled the 30 degree night ok (the first 2 days), but the second freeze we had resulted in the outer leaves being completely fried and about 85% of the inner leaves were in bad shape.

I haven't seen the NDM to see how that one is going.

All my mangos in pots were brought inside for the freezes but were left outside on the mid 30 degree nights and are doing well.  They're back outside now and 2 of them have had recent flushes and one of the trees has pannicles forming - that tree is certainly to young to bear but I'm going to cut any fruit off if any does happen to take.

All my other potted trees were brought in during the freeze nights but did amazingly well during the mid 30's temps we had.  My longans, cherimoyas and atemoya seedlings are doing well and the longans are flushing now with a new growth spurt after that cold.  Also surprised a bit by some of my avocado seedlings, as I had started 14 seeds (2x florida, 12x hass) in the beginning of December and left those out in the cold (again, brought in for the freeze nights but not the mid 30's) and 8 of those have pushed growth out this last week and it looks like another 3 or so are ready any day to send up their first shoot.  The cold may have slowed down their germination but most look to have taken.  I know avocados are generally easy to grow but I'm hoping that having them sprout while enduring mid 30's well help develop a tree that can better stand these "artic" cold blasts.

I probably won't put any more seedling mangos in the ground here since I'll only be in this house for another year, but it was a good lesson to learn cheaply since they were just seedlings.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Golden or Yellow Dragon Fruit?
« on: January 25, 2018, 02:54:05 PM »
Thanks Ric

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Golden or Yellow Dragon Fruit?
« on: January 25, 2018, 12:30:03 PM »
So I purchased a few more of these today and I bought the ones with the pieces of the DF stem on them still.

Is there anything special I should do to them to make sure they take?
- Rooting hormone?
- Making a newer cut at the base to encourage root growth?
- Should I use a "humidifier" - ie, since I'm using red solo cups do I put a plastic bag over the cups?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Golden or Yellow Dragon Fruit?
« on: January 22, 2018, 04:01:21 PM »
Picked up one last week at the whole foods in Altamonte Springs.

Was very, very good.  Certainly the best DF I've ever tasted.  I harvested about 30 seeds, washed and dried them off and planted them earlier today in a cactus mix.  I started a bunch of red DF seeds about 2 months ago and many of those have sprouted - but they're so, so tiny.  Hope these yellow ones sprout out as they're much tastier than the reds I've had.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cleanup after the freeze in Orlando area
« on: January 09, 2018, 05:51:50 PM »
Ok, so I got hammered like most of us, and the blankets and protection I tried using didn't work for the tropicals I had in the ground.

No big loss since most of my plants were from seed and experimental at best, but now what do I do with my bananas, papayas and seedling mangos?

One of my bananas was about 5ft tall, the rest were about 3ft tall.  Do I remove the dead leaves, chop down the stalk or just let it be to provide protection, though it would be limited, to any pups that start coming out, or will the 5ft plant start to push new growth out?

As for the papaya, do I strip off the dead leaves and keep the main stalk in hopes of it coming back?  I had about 8 papayas that were about 2 feet tall and just starting to flower.

The mangos that I lost were all about 1.5 years old and less than 2ft tall (mainly altaufo).  They were small but bushy and leafy.  Do I just leave them in the grounds in hope they'll pop back up or just dig em out.

Lastly I had 3 seedling grapefruit.  1 looks to be completely fried but the other 2 only lost the new growth flush.  I assume I trim that back and those should bounce back, or is there something else.

One more - since its been so dry out lately, should I water now that we're back into the '70s or try to keep them in a bit of a hibernated state in fear of another frost/freeze happening.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chilly Florida AM
« on: January 04, 2018, 02:47:19 PM »
Was at 32 for 8 hours in Lake Mary .....with final low of 30 for a few hours....really weird as temp hit 32 around midnight and stayed there for hours on end until it hit 30 for a few hours before sunrise....

I live in one city over from ya in Longwood, and WeatherUnderground registered us at 27 this 7AM.  I moved my potted plants indoors a few days ago but lost my bananas, mangos and papayas.  My citrus seemed to fare ok as they are small and close to the ground and I covered them up, and my pineapples, which are right next to my house and i ran an electric heater over the patch last night and covered them seemed ok - temp around the heater was at 41 this am so hopefully i saved them, but will be back at it tonight trying to keep them warm.

My Florida Prince Peach took an absolute beating last night too and dropped all of its leaves - hopefully that will come back

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