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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #25 on: November 23, 2017, 05:45:34 AM »
Another one that i'm trying to find but's i couldn't untill now it's the dekopon mandarine. If there are anyone that knows a place that sells it, please tell me. Thank's!  ;D

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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2017, 02:53:16 PM »
Dekopon is a fantastic tasting fruit.
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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2017, 03:40:47 PM »
Dekopon is a fantastic tasting fruit.
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Thank's my friend! Yes it seams to, but impossible to get here in Europe... I'm thinking to grow it by seed because it's nucellar. I will hask if anyone that have it can share some seeds with me...  ;D

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« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2017, 10:31:10 PM »
Louisport, too bad you did not mention wanting a Dekpon seed before the Citrus Expo.  The Dekopon on the judging table had a couple plump seeds.  I could have taken one and sent it to you.   I have two Dekopon trees, one growing in the ground, and one as a container tree.  If I find a seed I'll post it here.
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« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2017, 12:38:55 AM »
I'd sure love to have a dekopon seed or two too, Millet :D.

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2017, 04:34:34 AM »
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Your yuzus have less seeds?
What do you mean? The pictures are from a yuko (I corrected the typo), not from a yuzu.
My yuzus are hon yuzus (the common yuzu) and have many seeds but I don't care because the main interest of yuzus is the zest.

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« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2017, 05:38:11 AM »
Louisport, to bad you did not mention wanting a Dekpon seed before the Citrus Expo.  The Dekopon on the judging table had a couple plump seeds.  I could have taken one and sent it to you.   I have two Dekopon trees, one growing in the ground, and one as a container tree.  If I find a seed I'll post it here.
Thank's a lot my friend! I will wait for your seeds. You are my only hope...  ;D

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« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2017, 05:40:15 AM »
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Your yuzus have less seeds?
What do you mean? The pictures are from a yuko (I corrected the typo), not from a yuzu.
My yuzus are hon yuzus (the common yuzu) and have many seeds but I don't care because the main interest of yuzus is the zest.
Hi! My friend i don't know, my knowlege regarding yuzu is very basic. I don't know much about yuzu varieties...  ;D

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« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2017, 02:06:01 PM »
Two years ago, I bought this Yuzu.

It has quite small leaves and some large thorns.

It was only this year, when I was told, that it´s grown from seed and has not yet fruited. Therefore, I acquired another Yuzu. The new plant has much larger leaves and small thorns. I suppose, this is the Yuzu most widely grown in European citrus collections. 

A comparison of the Yuzu plants. Both are grafted on trifoliate citrus.


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« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2017, 02:54:43 PM »
The second one looks much better...  ;D Congratulations!

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« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2017, 03:35:45 PM »
The first one is definitely not a Yuzu. Some papeda, probably ichangensis.
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« Reply #36 on: November 24, 2017, 03:53:00 PM »
Another Japanese hibrid using yuzu that seams very interesting is the hyuganatzu... but impossible to get i think.  :)

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« Reply #37 on: November 26, 2017, 12:47:35 AM »
I believe Hyuganatsu is probably a hybrid between Buntan (pomelo) and yuzu. However, there's no information about whether it demonstrates any unusual cold hardiness.

I planted a pomelo and yuzu right next to each other so hopefully in a few years I can try to see if any of the seeds turn out to be a hybrid.

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« Reply #38 on: November 26, 2017, 02:35:35 AM »
« Last Edit: November 26, 2017, 02:41:54 AM by mikkel »

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2017, 04:39:15 AM »
The first one is definitely not a Yuzu. Some papeda, probably ichangensis.

Indeed, the plants are very different. Beside the differences already mentioned, the first plant has distinctive pale green leaves. Further, the citrusy smell of crushed leaves is not as perceivable as in the true Yuzu.

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« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2017, 09:53:13 AM »
Thank's!  ;D

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« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2017, 02:19:04 PM »
@Heinrich where did you buy the plants? Are they from Hrn Meeder?

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« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2017, 09:16:54 AM »
Eugen Schleipfer

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« Reply #43 on: November 27, 2017, 01:39:44 PM »
also keine Yuzu Strada Montana :)

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« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2017, 03:58:47 AM »
can't be Yuzu Strada Montana, because my plant isn't mature yet.

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« Reply #45 on: December 18, 2017, 06:35:49 PM »
I just picked a fruit off the tree



I tasted it and it actually wasn't all that bad, like lemon and Clementine, but very dry (like a rough lemon). It was full of seeds, but I could see eating these in a survival situation or foraging while on a nature hike.

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Re: Yuzu... my new obsession!
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2018, 02:58:26 AM »
Hello everyone! Any one knows what variety is yuzu nº3? It's a good one? Thank's!  ;D

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« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2018, 05:45:37 AM »
It is selected and named by French citrus guru Alias

Citrus junos yuzu n°3 R-18°c maturité:OCT-NOV qualité: XXXXX
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« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2018, 10:24:32 AM »
So,

1. it is not strange to buy citrus seeds from seedless cultivar, seedless cultivars have seeds too, but very few, for example 1 seed per 20 fruits.

2. Yuzu does not grow true to type from seed.

3. Because of 2. each village has usually its own cultivar.
Lines are called kei

Important selections are:


1.木頭系(きとう)Kitō-kei (kitō)
2.海野系(かいの)Umino-kei
3.早生種の「山根系」Yamane-kei  やまねゆず(はやしげる)Yamane yuzu (haya Shigeru)
The Yamane - kei was selected in Mr. Yamane 's garden in Anan City.  Fruits are large  and flat.
山根(やまね)
4.平の香(たいらのかおり)Hira no ka (tai-ra no Kaori)
seedling which seems to originate from Yuzu in Kinno village, Naka gun, Tokushima prefecture.
The shape of the fruit is somewhat height compared with the conventional type of Yuzu, and the concave ring around the fruit part protrudes considerably in a disk shape, the peel is yellow orange thick , the fragrance is strong.
5.物部系  Monobe-kei
6.種なしの (多田錦(ただにしき)) Tada nishiki
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« Reply #49 on: August 13, 2018, 10:38:06 AM »
2. Yuzu do not grow true to type from seed.

I think I read somewhere that Yuzu is polyembryonic, which would mean it strongly produces mostly nucellar seeds.

However, even if that were not the case I would still expect Yuzu to produce relatively true to seed if pollination did not come from a different variety.