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sahai1

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Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« on: January 28, 2018, 04:25:56 AM »
was gifted some today, taste like banana sugar apple, maybe a bit of soursop
กล้วยหมูสัง is most common Thai name, dont know if they mean Gluay like banana or like an orchid.
So might translate like Banana Sow, or Sow Orchid.
Name in my area is not standard, called Gluay Nom Wua, or Cow breast orchid.  Maybe they mean like nipple.
Apparently there is another variety that is smaller with less seeds, called Cat Breast orchid.







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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2018, 04:36:44 AM »
Wow very strange. What does the plant look like?

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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2018, 06:02:08 AM »
it grows like a vine, most Thai people are convinced it is a vine.. perhaps I am misunderstanding the Thai word for vine.
Perhaps there is no word for shrub or woody vine in Thai, it is woody.  I took a cutting, not sure if it will take.

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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2018, 07:10:26 AM »
Its more of a liana.

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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2018, 07:42:51 AM »
great word.. yes, a liana

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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2018, 07:44:28 AM »
here is a picture from medthai website, it was trained over a car park

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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2018, 08:20:06 AM »
I've also seen U. grandiflora called civet banana in English. I'm not surprised that the local name for it might have a reference to a cow's udder - U. rufa in is known as Susung-kalabaw, "Water buffalo teats"  :)  Sahai, see if you can get the scientific name on the less seedy version (what was the seed-to-flesh ratio on U.grandiflora? - it's hard to find that sort of info.)

There are so many interesting annonaceae climbers (Uvaria, Fissistigma, Melodorum, etc)  :)   Also interesting annonaceae spice trees (Xylopia, Monodora, etc), with great medicinal qualities being investigated. The flowers on Monodora species are gorgeous.
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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2018, 09:36:15 AM »
I think  maybe like 50/50 seed/flesh?  Is there any way I can check more accurately, glad to help.
 At first I tried to eat fast like a sugar apple trying to work the flesh off the seeds.  Then realized if you just keep the fruit in your mouth it dissolves completely, no need to chew or suck or do anything.  dissolves just as fast ss chewing it.

looking through Thai blogs found several blogs crossreferencing cat nipple to other names in different dialects, however since I dont have the fruit not sure what is what.

From those different dialects found crossreferenced to these different scientific names:
Xylopia vielana Pierre, Uvaria Rufa, Polyalthia debilis

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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2018, 09:57:28 AM »
I think  maybe like 50/50 seed/flesh?  Is there any way I can check more accurately, glad to help.

Thanks, that'd good enough - I'll add that to my database  :)

Nice to see that it trains well.  Looks like lots of good properties to this one.
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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2018, 04:08:56 PM »
Wow thanks for sharing. Looks really cool.

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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2018, 06:38:33 AM »
no problems, the MedThai website lists that it the leaves and the roots can be boiled to cure stomach ailments, including an upset stomach, bloated stomach, and gas.


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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2018, 06:18:59 PM »
Planted a couple of seeds today of Uvaria grandiflora... I have my fingers crossed!
If not for this thread I would not have known of it, so thank you very much Sahai1!
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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2018, 08:35:50 AM »
Richard Wilson, of Excalibur Fruit Trees, introduced Uvaria grandiflora to Florida around 2001.  He may still have some.
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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2018, 05:06:47 PM »
I tried growing this from seed 3 times
never got one seedlings.

if anyone has success let me know
especially with a place i can buy seeds, or seedlings.

(Adam do you have one for sale?)

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Re: Cow Breast Orchid, Uvaria grandiflora
« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2018, 05:53:59 PM »
if anyone has success let me know
especially with a place i can buy seeds, or seedlings.

I got seeds from Trade Winds for what its worth... their seeds have been a coin-toss for me, but Im hopeful.
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