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Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« on: February 25, 2018, 09:28:37 AM »
Hi,

I have a 1.5 year old Wurtz Avocado that I bought from Excalibur and planted in ground since late 2016. I'm surprise it start to flower right now, and it's about 4-5 ft tall, I'm in Lake Worth area:




I wanted to ensure good pollination, so I look into and learn the Avocado flowers. I stopped by Excalibur last weekend, spoke with Richard and Mike, I was told their Wurtz is Type AB. They just tell me it's sell pollination and couldn't say much. I have been google and can't find any type AB Avocado reference.

Anyone know what to expect with this information? Like there will be male and female flower open at the same time in the morning or afternoon for pollination? This is the standard chart for Avacado:



Also, to increase pollination, I saw in youtube that people spray honey water on avocado flowers to attract bees/ant, one guy even put rosemary sprigs around the tree to attract bee. Can anyone confirm if any of these will work? I tried to use brush to hand pollinate but it's impossible as the flowers are so tiny, I knock a few flowers off the stem while brushing.

Thanks!

Moses

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Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2018, 12:48:37 PM »
I would cut the grass around that young tree..

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Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2018, 02:22:07 PM »
I already mowed the lawn and clear the base of the avocado tree. Added more compost as well.

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Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2018, 03:09:13 PM »
Some more info...looks like it's an "A":

(Guat.) Regist.1940 Orig.1935 at place of Roy E. Wurtz, Encinitas, CA. Fruit; season, May-Sept.;color, green;weight, 8-10 oz.; shape, pyriform. (CAS Yearbook 1950) Orig. Encinitas, CA, by Roy Wurtz. Introd.1948. Chance seedling planted about 1935;selected about 1940. Fruit: Mex.-Guat. hybrid type; quality good; skin green, med.thick;long oval; size 7-10 oz.Tree:production fair to good; distinctive weeping growth habit, with dense cover of leaves & sm. limbs. (B&O Register) Easily available for the home garden through nurseries. Also called Littlecado or Minicado or Dwarf Hybrid depending on propagating nursery.(J.R. Frink 2000) Origin, CA; Race GxM; Flower group, A (Lahav & Gazit) (originated in 1935 at Encinitas, CA; cultivated in Queensland for only the past12 or13 yrs.);pear shaped,sm.-med.;8-12oz(226-240g); seed lg. Season:May-Sept. in CA;late in Queensland. Tree is small&slow-growing, bears moderately but regularly. More than 100 trees may be planted per acre (240 per ha). (J.Morton 1987)

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Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2018, 03:27:40 PM »
Always ‘known’ Wurtz as an A. At least that’s what it is sold as here.

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Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2018, 03:56:26 PM »
From what I'm reading through out the forum, the "Wurtz" we have in Florida is different than everywhere else. For example, "Wurtz" is sold as "Little Cado" in California, but what we have is not "Little Cado". The Wurtz in Florida should taste similar to "Fuerte Avocado". Again, I'm not sure if Excalibur Frankenstein this avocado and label it as Wurtz because it's primarily Wurtz yet some how make it Type AB..... whatever that mean.

I have searched the forum and so far I haven't seen any result of Wurtz growing in FL, only see a bunch of recommendation to grow this variety.

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Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« Reply #6 on: February 26, 2018, 12:12:43 AM »
If you’ve got funky weather, some varieties are known for having mixed flowers, especially when it’s really or unseasonably warm. Can’t remember off the top of my head  but happens a decent amount in California, and may be a contributing factor for why some solitary trees have a good fruit set despite not having another tree or easy pollinating partner in the vicinity.

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Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« Reply #7 on: February 26, 2018, 03:07:32 AM »
Wurtz Avocardo is type A....... Mike

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Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« Reply #8 on: February 26, 2018, 04:56:22 AM »
Looks like a hematologist at some point plied his trade at avocado raising
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Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2018, 09:59:34 AM »
Seems like the weather factor make sense. We do have "in between" weather here. Like the day time high is around 80F, then night time low could be the 60sF. Although, this weekend we will be in the 50F for night time low, I expect a lot of flower will die. Hopefully they will recover in March.

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Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2018, 10:27:18 AM »
KC you live in Lake Worth there are avocados everywhere. The bees will pollinate your tree. If you want another tree just get one that like. Dont worry about A or B
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Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2018, 01:30:21 PM »
Thank you all, I will report back on the progress late Spring and see how well is the Wurtz doing in our area.

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Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« Reply #12 on: February 27, 2018, 02:41:11 PM »
We bought a Wurtz in 2016 and another 2017 and both are flowering.   One is knee high and blooming like a big boy.   The lula bought at same time as last Wurtz  is much bigger and leafing out.

 

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