Abiurana

[ofdsurfer]

Has anybody tried growing this in Florida?  How does it compare to regular abiu? 

[Jackfruitwhisperer69]

Hi Mike,
I hear they are more cold tolerant, than Abiu and tastes like condensed milk...top notch fruit and hard to find

''The abiurana  is resistant to drought and falling temperatures to -4°C (25°F), while the abiu does not resist the frost with temperatures below 0°C (32°)''

[ofdsurfer]

Yeah that's what caught my eye as well a fruit that is similar to abiu but cold hardy to 25, that sounds like a great fruit to grow in Florida.  If you hear of any seed sources please let me know.

[Jackfruitwhisperer69]

Yeah that's what caught my eye as well a fruit that is similar to abiu but cold hardy to 25, that sounds like a great fruit to grow in Florida.  If you hear of any seed sources please let me know.

Same here.  This specie should fruit very well in the subtropics   I'm also on the hunt for this sp...will let you know, if I find any.

[fruitlovers]

Helton i believe sells the seeds.

[ofdsurfer]

Thank you very much I'll contact him.

[Jackfruitwhisperer69]

Thank you very much I'll contact him.

Here's a vid with Helton Josué, where he gives a tour of the farm, with Abiurana, close to the end...very inspirational Enjoy Folks

Colecionador de frutas

[fruitlovers]

Helton's a real good guy, and it's amazing all the work he's doing. We've been exchanging seeds for quite some time and he sends real good quality seeds.

[Berto]

I have a few abiurana seedlings. They are more or less four years old and approximately five  (5) to six (6) feet tall.  I plan to plant a couple of them in the ground. I may trade or sell at least one tree to a Florida collector willing to pick up the tree in Fort Myers.
When I saw the video, it reminded me of being inside that nursery and walking all over Helton's property.  It was worth the effort to visit one of the biggest collections of rare fruits in Brasil.  Meeting Helton and his wife and having lunch with them was ice on the cake!   

[ofdsurfer]

Berto I sent you an email.

[DurianLover]

 Taste like condensed milk? Any more description of flavor and consistency?? Talking to you Portuguese speaking people

[Jackfruitwhisperer69]

Taste like condensed milk? Any more description of flavor and consistency?? Talking to you Portuguese speaking people

DurioLover,

Helton Josué, doesn't talk much about the fruit. 

''Durante a visita o nosso anfitrião, dá uma paradinha em baixo da Abuirana, e se delícia com o fruto, da Mata Atlântica e Cerrado.  Para ele, o fruto tem um sabor bem peculiar...leite condensado.''

''During the visit our host, gives a quick stop beneath the Abuirana, and delights himself with the fruit, native to the Atlantic Forest and Cerrado region. For him, the fruit has a very peculiar flavor...condensed milk.''

[davidgarcia899]

Does anyone know how long they take fruit from seed and their tolerance to alkalinity?

[Jsvand5]

Helton's a real good guy, and it's amazing all the work he's doing. We've been exchanging seeds for quite some time and he sends real good quality seeds.

Does he have a list to order from? Can't really understand his site. Wish I would have found it before getting divorced from my portuguese wife

[davidgarcia899]

http://www.bananasraras.org/frutasrarasingles/seedenglish.htm

[Jsvand5]

Thanks. Anyone want to do a group order? I'd like to grab some of the abiurana but the minimum order is 5 types of seed.

[luc]

My tree is about 4 meters tall now , still no sign of flowers .

[Jsvand5]

My tree is about 4 meters tall now , still no sign of flowers .

Nice, mine is all the way up to about ten inches. Expecting flowers by August 2030.

[davidgarcia899]

10 inches! mine is still at 4

[Jsvand5]

10 inches! mine is still at 4

They definitely seem slow to get going

[luc]

Ken Love mentioned it is his favorite Pouteria

[barath]

Reviving this old thread, is anyone still growing abiurana or does anyone know of a source of seeds?  Thanks!

[nelesedulis]

Hi

Which species are you looking for?

Abiurana is a generic name, many species for similar but very different fruits!

Reviving this old thread, is anyone still growing abiurana or does anyone know of a source of seeds?  Thanks!

[fruitlovers]

Ken Love mentioned it is his favorite Pouteria

Reviving this old thread, is anyone still growing abiurana or does anyone know of a source of seeds?  Thanks!

I have the same fruit tree. Pretty sure that Ken has misidentified it as Pouteria bullata. It's actually a type of Pouteria torta.

[fruitlovers]

Reviving this old thread, is anyone still growing abiurana or does anyone know of a source of seeds?  Thanks!

Fruits in late summer, ask me again then.

[barath]

Oh, interesting.  I am hoping for the Abiurana that is slightly more cold tolerant than Abiu, as described here:

http://www.bananasraras.org/frutasrarasingles/pouteria.htm

Is that what you have?

[fruitlovers]

Oh, interesting.  I am hoping for the Abiurana that is slightly more cold tolerant than Abiu, as described here:

http://www.bananasraras.org/frutasrarasingles/pouteria.htm

Is that what you have?

If Helton has it correctly labeled as bullata, then probably mine is different, as i think it is torta. But if Nelesedulis is correct, then bullata is not very good tasting, and the one i have is quite good. Don't know about its cold tolerance.

[nelesedulis]

For me it is difficult to evaluate the photo of the site, I was on an expedition and we found Pouteria Bullata, it has wavy leaves, well marked, brown flowers, rust color, the fruit darkens quickly, the pulp is a bit dry with large seed, a light taste of milk and sugar.

By the photo I think it is a Regular Pouteria Torta, but as I said, ABIURANA is a generic name here in Brazil, several pouterias we use this name, Guapeva, Guapeba, Bapeba, Bapeva ... all this generates doubts giant!

I'm just saying this to friend, do not buy one kind and get another!

Oh, interesting.  I am hoping for the Abiurana that is slightly more cold tolerant than Abiu, as described here:

http://www.bananasraras.org/frutasrarasingles/pouteria.htm

Is that what you have?

If Helton has it correctly labeled as bullata, then probably mine is different, as i think it is torta. But if Nelesedulis is correct, then bullata is not very good tasting, and the one i have is quite good. Don't know about its cold tolerance.