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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #50 on: March 28, 2015, 11:45:49 AM »
Nice protection Micah, I like that style.

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« Reply #51 on: March 28, 2015, 09:28:51 PM »
One of my 2 mexican garcinias got fried during the cold...crazy because it was only 38/39 F  and a lot of other seedlings that were fried, have started to resprout...it has 2 leaves that are entirely light brown with green midribs.  Still holding out hope it will push new growth, but it's been about a month and nothing.  My mexican garcinia seedlings (4-5 inches tall) pulled through fine.  Fingers crossed...
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« Reply #52 on: March 29, 2015, 12:23:16 PM »


I got my seeds from Oscar, kinda slow grower but have a few that same size 8)

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« Reply #53 on: March 29, 2015, 02:28:13 PM »
Nice ScottR, my Luc's are my slowest growing Garcinia. I hope they get going when the first branching happens like on my Achaicharu and Lemon Drop. I like the looks of your plant "lab" aka greenhouse.

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« Reply #54 on: March 29, 2015, 10:04:46 PM »
Thanks Jonah, they are slow so far can't wait for spurt of growth and yes my lemon drops are same set there kinda growth ;)G.H. works for me not heated in Winter but helps heat house! 

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« Reply #55 on: April 02, 2015, 11:35:54 AM »
does anyone know if Limoncillo will fruit under shaded conditions (like  some of the other garcinias)?
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« Reply #56 on: April 02, 2015, 02:01:38 PM »
http://www.quisqualis.com/19imbejoy.html "For best growth and fruit production, keep trees where they get plenty of sunlight, and even though they will tolerate light shade, heavy shade will reduce fruit bearing". This is for Garcinia livingstonei. I claim to be no expert but they are in the same genus. Has anybody else besides Luc brought Mex Garcinia to fruition?

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« Reply #57 on: April 02, 2015, 05:41:25 PM »
http://www.quisqualis.com/19imbejoy.html "For best growth and fruit production, keep trees where they get plenty of sunlight, and even though they will tolerate light shade, heavy shade will reduce fruit bearing". This is for Garcinia livingstonei. I claim to be no expert but they are in the same genus. Has anybody else besides Luc brought Mex Garcinia to fruition?


I don't know that Luc has brought it into fruition. I think he is just collecting fruits from the wild?
Mars all garcinias are different in how well they will fruit in the shade.
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« Reply #58 on: April 02, 2015, 08:25:53 PM »
http://www.quisqualis.com/19imbejoy.html "For best growth and fruit production, keep trees where they get plenty of sunlight, and even though they will tolerate light shade, heavy shade will reduce fruit bearing". This is for Garcinia livingstonei. I claim to be no expert but they are in the same genus. Has anybody else besides Luc brought Mex Garcinia to fruition?


I don't know that Luc has brought it into fruition. I think he is just collecting fruits from the wild?
Mars all garcinias are different in how well they will fruit in the shade.


Yes Oscar I did have about 10 fruits last year . I only planted one tree that I dug up from the jungle , was 40 - 50 cm and growing under the mother tree .Unfortunately I planted it in the worst soil and place ( landfill and in the shade of palms and bamboo ) It was also topped by one of the workers . All the pictures of flowers that I posted are from that tree . Since there are enough in the wild I totally neglect and abuse this tree ( a cruel experiment , I know ....) I also opened up this tree pruning kinda like Adam does with his jaboticabas to let more light in and keep the tree at 3 meters . I am not sure if this is a good idea  so don't you all start doing the same thing . Anyway the tree didn't mind and is growing strong . Water table in that area is at 1 to 1.50 meter so it is getting his own water . Again this year it had a zillion of flowers , did I ever mention you can smell them from far away ... but due to the very open form it has now and these unusual torrential rains during the flowering they all dropped . I must admit I still collected 1 fruit , was laying on they ground only 6 cm and half green , I let it ripen a week inside and ate it .... was perfect ....If the Australians ever taste this , they gonna get rid of their achachas , and I am not exaggerating .
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Re: Luc's Mexican Garcinia growing experiences around the world
« Reply #59 on: April 02, 2015, 09:51:30 PM »
does anyone know if Limoncillo will fruit under shaded conditions (like  some of the other garcinias)?
Jeff they do fruit in shade, the wild trees loaded with fruits are in the middle of the jungle with several trees  in proximity all around, I think they actually like shade.....
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« Reply #60 on: April 02, 2015, 11:28:41 PM »
does anyone know if Limoncillo will fruit under shaded conditions (like  some of the other garcinias)?
Jeff they do fruit in shade, the wild trees loaded with fruits are in the middle of the jungle with several trees  in proximity all around, I think they actually like shade.....

woohoo, i have just the spot!!!  Thanks, Raul. 
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« Reply #61 on: April 03, 2015, 11:52:26 AM »
I find that trees in the shade produce less but bigger fruit , some of the huge producers are in full sun with an average of 7 cm fruits . The picture I posted a few times with the Bolivian Achachairu for size comparison came from a shaded tree.

Here it is again .

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« Reply #62 on: April 03, 2015, 12:47:20 PM »
I find that trees in the shade produce less but bigger fruit , some of the huge producers are in full sun with an average of 7 cm fruits . The picture I posted a few times with the Bolivian Achachairu for size comparison came from a shaded tree.

Here it is again .



Fantastic Info Luc & Raul.  I had a hunch and plant the 2011 natural dwarf next to my ten feet Robusta coffee trees.  If it turn out well we can definitely intercrop them with coffee and nex the Banana for added value in premium coffee highlant plantation culure regiments.  A larger fruit in the shade will fetch top dollar in Japan & Northern China!😘 So in future can Batman (Luc) & Robin (Raul) keep an eyes on the large fruiting strain to us breeder, Thank you very much in advance!😃
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« Reply #63 on: April 03, 2015, 02:35:42 PM »
I find that trees in the shade produce less but bigger fruit , some of the huge producers are in full sun with an average of 7 cm fruits . The picture I posted a few times with the Bolivian Achachairu for size comparison came from a shaded tree.

Here it is again .

Luc the guys of available seeds. Com got your famous pic with the achachas,  they are also selling the Luc Limoncillo  seeds...
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« Reply #64 on: April 03, 2015, 02:38:41 PM »
I find that trees in the shade produce less but bigger fruit , some of the huge producers are in full sun with an average of 7 cm fruits . The picture I posted a few times with the Bolivian Achachairu for size comparison came from a shaded tree.

Here it is again .

Luc the guys of available seeds. Com got your famous pic with the achachas,  they are also selling the Luc Limoncillo  seeds...
how can that be possible?  There's no seeds this year unless they bought from you last year!
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« Reply #65 on: April 03, 2015, 07:01:09 PM »
 
I find that trees in the shade produce less but bigger fruit , some of the huge producers are in full sun with an average of 7 cm fruits . The picture I posted a few times with the Bolivian Achachairu for size comparison came from a shaded tree.

Here it is again .

Luc the guys of available seeds. Com got your famous pic with the achachas,  they are also selling the Luc Limoncillo  seeds...
I find that trees in the shade produce less but bigger fruit , some of the huge producers are in full sun with an average of 7 cm fruits . The picture I posted a few times with the Bolivian Achachairu for size comparison came from a shaded tree.

Here it is again .

Luc the guys of available seeds. Com got your famous pic with the achachas,  they are also selling the Luc Limoncillo  seeds...
how can that be possible?  There's no seeds this year unless they bought from you last year!


Raul , that is Ricardo , we traded a lot last year , yes those are 2014 seeds .
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« Reply #66 on: April 03, 2015, 07:55:24 PM »
I find that trees in the shade produce less but bigger fruit , some of the huge producers are in full sun with an average of 7 cm fruits . The picture I posted a few times with the Bolivian Achachairu for size comparison came from a shaded tree.

Here it is again .

Luc the guys of available seeds. Com got your famous pic with the achachas,  they are also selling the Luc Limoncillo  seeds...

Went to the site the picture is there but it says out of stock.
how can that be possible?  There's no seeds this year unless they bought from you last year!

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« Reply #67 on: April 03, 2015, 11:04:15 PM »
I am going to repost this here as i realize i posted it in wrong thread about Lucangosteen. Sorry if you've already seen it.

I took this photo today. It is of the largest of a row of Lucangosteens i have planted. This plant is about 7 feet tall. The others a bit smaller. They are in full sun.
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« Reply #68 on: April 04, 2015, 03:54:57 PM »
Beautiful plant Oscar , BTW I don't like this Lucangosteen name
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« Reply #69 on: April 04, 2015, 07:04:56 PM »
Beautiful plant Oscar , BTW I don't like this Lucangosteen name

Stop Whining & Crying Luc your fame for eternity on your discovery is much generously appreciated by all! But it is not your choice to dictate what its marketing name will be; I selected that name to explain to the Taitung Taipans why they should ditch the crappy money loosing petite Achacharu investments in Australia and go with the Mexican Garcinia in Taiwan &  Northern Vietnam.  I am donating all of my south american garcinias to a local Botanical garden plus one Lucangosteen to be mark there for the world to see; its like staking a flag on the Moon.

Unfortunately Mentioning anything Mexican in Asia at this time bring up a negative connotation of Cartel, Drugs & failures of Government to protect its citizen safety or inferior produces lace with unsafe Monsanto Excess; I am sure they do that in Asia with Monsanto too. But for Premium fruit for high end market, your image is very important..

It will be a marketing name like Kiwi Fruit for the weedy Chinese Gooseberry unfashionable to eat in South China until for the New Zealander making it chic during Soviet Time with evil Communist Red China.  Its hard to sell it as Mexican Garcinia, Garcinia veleerackerii, limoncello or Luc's Mexica Garcinia; or what ever pig Latin the Botanist World choose.  I live in the real world, For the Chinese, Japanese buyers they like the Lucangosteen moniker better because the well heel know what a purple Mangosteen is not (Garcinia Mangostana even though we all know that its western scientific name); having to sell Limoncello sound like too much cheapo Jello flavor desert here in US that Asians find a dislike too; especially common served to US hospital patients or worse memory of US occupation & SPAM became a favorite gift in Asia but Limoncello Jello invites quite a beating off insult! Notice lately these put fancy Spanish name on common boring food to make it exciting!😱 Example Bouf Steak Ranchero burrito, ate one of these was neither french beef, road killed on some one ranch and it was just a rice bean manufactured beef ( soybean & beef gris) wheat wrap after eating the fart send me into The Martian's Orbit I am just lucky to make it back to finish telling you my rant which is better to decipher than most eccentric here!🙊

Moreover with all the Garcinia debates what to name garcinia humilis, Garcinia humping camelis, G. brazilensis. G. String etc; 😸my buyers dont give a dam!  They want something common sense to make money in a commoditized business.  My Pumelo brackist water from Hope Sound Estates is sweeter than the Lake Wale Estate even thought its the same dam Pumelo selected by a Taiwanese Breeder; we call it Gold Snob Pumelo & our buyers ask for it! Man do I have to tell you about the Brocoli trade on the US Eastern Seabord!  The Buyers in New York pay 50% more than Lake Wales Estate & produce in l'etates-unis.  You know dam well 25 acres just on one farm is no estates but it sound better! A thousand hectare now that is an estate!  Marketing is everything, what stick in a consumer head stay with them.  The language of international trade is English not the dead latin language for now.  In fifty years who know the Chinese Century, scientific publications will be in Chinese whether you like it or not; I am practicing Mandarin, cause all the investors  flying into a Seattle Based Geoduck/Oyster farm spoke only it; they have 100 mill, I need only 10 mill to buy the Operation & yes I will speak the worst Mandarin that will injure everyone to come out of my mouth but They will appreciate my respect for Chinese hegemony!🍊

You come up with a better common sense name Luc  digestable to the North Asian Affluent Markets and we will trade mark it if worth anything like Dole for Pineapple & Chiquita for Banana, Idaho for Potatoes.  Fruit farming aint easy and the margin is razor thin, a good name can make a different if you want to dominate it earlier on & than dump it on Wallstreet(I work for Goldman Sach for seven years before I retired early in 2000; spinning an IPO on a company no one know is a mystery, but to cover write for a client and a success underwriting is very difficult work and not everyone will survive the gaunlet of commerce. I certainly know all about that since my wife sold her company be ause of a wise name she used 30 years ago to one of the world largest internet brand.   Right now I tell them a Lucangosteen its like a mangosteen but its yellow, fruit large like the Goose that laid the Golden egg than Achacharu; Chinese Investors know this Aesop Fable very well!😾 If I was selling Marijuana I will call it Alcapulca Gold and the High End Japanese & Chinese markets will know it high quality shit from Mexico! Happy Easter Luc, we will Market the Lucangosteen as part of the North American Easter Egg Hunting tradition, now can you find me strain that ripe before Easter?😺✌️
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« Reply #70 on: April 04, 2015, 08:41:30 PM »
Coconut , I humbly bow my head and kneel reading your marketing expertise ....Why the heck didn't you tell me all this in the beginning , I could have asked a fortune for these seeds and would be driving this Ferrari I always wanted .
With TLC the Lucangosteen can be fruited before Easter , I had a few already , after I got over my orgasm ( my wife accused me of watching porn because of my OMG , OMG yes more ) I started to think about all these lucky people all over the world who will , one day , have the same experience .
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« Reply #71 on: April 04, 2015, 09:02:00 PM »
"Luc's Garcinia" is what I've been calling it...(not sure what name will end up sticking)

the name Lucangosteen....(reminds me of the character from mortal kombat, Liu Kang)

what about LucLucairu?  :P

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« Reply #72 on: April 05, 2015, 02:42:10 AM »
Wouldn't Lucosteen be a little better since its shorter name?
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« Reply #73 on: April 05, 2015, 05:01:20 AM »
Polling please.  8)
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« Reply #74 on: April 05, 2015, 06:15:14 AM »
Man everyone talks about this fruit.  Looks like I need tomgrow this one!

 

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