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Citrus => Cold Hardy Citrus => Topic started by: Florian on March 23, 2017, 01:20:32 PM
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I have just bought an Ichangquat and I was told it is a sister hybrid of the 6-7-2 and that it came from the US but I couldn't get any more information (ie. on hardiness or taste). So, I'd appreciate any additional information there might be.
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Where did you get it from?
Original 6-7-2 is monoebryonic, so ichangquat from B.Voss known by this name in Europe is F2 seedling different from mother plant. Theoretically your plant could be another seedling of 6-7-2 from USA.
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I bought it from Eisenhut, Ilya, I don't have many other options:-). I believe it has not flowered there.
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I read somewhere that many of their plants were from B.Voss.
Czech on-line nursery http://www.rakytnik.com/index.php/rostliny/citrusy/mrazuvzdorne-druhy-a-hybridy/385-c-ichangensis-fortunella-ichangquat (http://www.rakytnik.com/index.php/rostliny/citrusy/mrazuvzdorne-druhy-a-hybridy/385-c-ichangensis-fortunella-ichangquat) has 6-7-2.
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I know that one, they do not ship to Switzerland, unfortunately.
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Ilya (or anybode else) does your ichangquat have any spines/thorns? My ichangquat has lots of them, the largest measuring 5cm (almost 2 inches). Quite a dangerous thing if this trait persists into adulthood.
(https://s9.postimg.cc/gaw41l0rf/20170404_153108.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/gaw41l0rf/)
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Yes, small plants do have very dangerous long thorns, but on fruiting branches they are either small or do not exist at all.
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Most all citrus varieties grown from seed have thorns during the tree's immature growth period. When the tree reaches maturity the tree becomes much less thorny.
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Thanks a lot, I knew that many citrus are thorny when young. But the other plants which I ordered (Juanita, Citrumelo Nr. 82 and Citrandarin Nr. 174) are of the same age and almost thornless. So, my real question is actually whether the Ichangquat will be full of thorns when adult, too.
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Florian, are the Juanita, Citrumelo Nr. 82 and Citrandarin Nr. 174 all grafted trees, and thus already mature wood for day one? If so then that is why they are thornless.
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Yes they are but so is the Ichangquat. Unless they took the budwood from a juvenile plant.. I've just bought them all toghether.
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Ilya, is your ichangquat also very late in spring?
Mine has the warmest place, but is stll asleep.
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I hadn't paid too much attention to my plant, so I was all the more pleased to find it covered in flower buds. Sorry for the bad quality photo.
(https://i.imgur.com/TXVAMx9.jpg?1)
This is the 245, not the 6-7-2. It will be interesting to see whether there are any differences.
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Looks good. Is yours still in the pot?
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This is my 245 from Eisenhut in ground at Lake Constance. No flowers yet.
(https://i.imgur.com/gjJxjvm.jpg)
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Here is mine, also 245 and also from Eisenhut
(https://s8.postimg.cc/p5ya4dkup/IMG_20180720_162313.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/p5ya4dkup/)
Moro, for how long has yours been in the ground?
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Mine is still potted and looks quite unattractive. I will have to prune it but I want to see how the fruit turns out first.
Moro, yours is a cracker!
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This is my 245 from Eisenhut in ground at Lake Constance. No flowers yet.
(https://i.imgur.com/gjJxjvm.jpg)
What kind of winter protection do you use? How cold is it in winter in your region?
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I bought the tree as a baby in 2013 and kept it in pots until 2016. So it is now in ground since 2 years. That’s when I trimmed it to a tree shape, before it was rather a bush. It is now appr. 1.4m (4’ 7’’) high.
It is on the south side of the house but receives shadow from the house on the opposite side of the street from November to February. I covered the ground around the tree with some small basalt rocks to store heat. It is protected against winds from the north but fully exposed to eastern winter winds.
I covered the tree with a single layer of frost cloth during winter. Last winter, we had two consecutive nights with -11C (12F) during a week with 6 days constantly below freezing. The most tender branch tips died, but otherwise the tree was fine.
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I have two that are much bigger (in ground indeed). I never protected them and nothing happened when it was -15°C (5° in your local Farenheits).
The only problem with this trees is what can I do with that?
The fruits are marble size and not eatable.
Over graft?
Any idea?
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What is its taste like? There is no Poncirus in its parentage, right?
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Mikke, Ilya says it tastes very interesting.
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My question was for @Sylvain (just forgot to link it). I read other impressions before but I wonder what Sylvains taste like.
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I cannot now remember the details but the overall conclusion is that it is completely unusable for anything.
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I cannot now remember the details but the overall conclusion is that it is completely unusable for anything.
Are you talking of 6-7-2 or some other ichangquats?
As I understand you have two trees that are the seedlings of 6-7-2 and they fruited for the first time last year. I guess that you need to wait for at least two other seasons before topworking them.
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> As I understand you have two trees that are the seedlings of 6-7-2
Yes, I think it was from seeds.
> I guess that you need to wait for at least two other seasons before topworking them.
OK, thank you.