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THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« on: June 28, 2014, 05:44:35 AM »
Thondi is a very unique fruit of Kerala....it has a nice sweet and sour mixed flavour. its a bush type plant , grow upto 10 -15 feet...tree is very ornamental too...




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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2014, 06:35:49 AM »

I'd be interested in buying some seeds. Do you have more pics/info?

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2014, 07:19:29 AM »
This is cold hardy? Maby not if this is from Kerala...

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« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2014, 08:06:39 AM »
Tropical only, Luisport . Good fruit sweet and sour mix taste. two varieties red and yellow colours available here.

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2014, 08:20:02 AM »
Very Good !
I want !

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2014, 12:02:58 PM »
it may not do well below 10 degree c ...

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2014, 09:12:01 PM »
I sent PM

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« Reply #7 on: June 29, 2014, 04:17:58 AM »
Please find botanical name of the fruit otherwise the seeds can not be sent to some countries

Moreover,by its scientific name everyone understands it very well.

Some botanists in Kerala might be able to help the collector to identify the fruit.

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2014, 07:03:44 AM »
Roy.., i ve searched a lot for its botanical name , but in vain....

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2014, 09:46:28 AM »
Mr Ajesh
Please go to any science college in your place and consult any botany professor over there.
You can also contact any horticulture or forest college in Kerala

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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2014, 10:17:14 AM »
At least try to send us pictures of flowers, leafs, seeds. We will try to determine family, genus and species!

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2014, 11:08:23 AM »

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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2014, 11:27:36 AM »
Looks like the fruit is also know as Keraya: http://ji2nee2kerala.weebly.com/medicinal-plants.html
Found a vid too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW5ODrVAYQM
The Thondi=Keraya seems to be another plants. There is a picture a bit below of the Thondi they mean - its from Caesalpinoidae...

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2014, 11:45:53 AM »
the fruit in the youtube video is same exactly Thondi...but karaya looks different....

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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2014, 12:53:32 PM »
May it be some Sapindaceae?

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2014, 10:32:08 PM »
i dont think it belongs to spindace...

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2014, 04:02:59 AM »
What family may it belong to ? Have You got a picture of the flowers in case?

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2014, 08:11:28 AM »
The fruit must have other name too. Looks like thondi is a name (or some sort of sufix) much used there.

Look (under "Photo9: A Paniya woman..."): a rice is also known as Thondi: http://satoyama-initiative.org/en/on-farm-conservation-of-plant-genetic-resources-a-case-study-from-wayanad-district-of-kerala-india/
Sterculia urens Roxb. is known as Thondi Tree. (page 44 in http://indiaenvironmentportal.org.in/files/file/wild%20food.pdf)
Other example is the Marathondi (Lawsonia inermi), and so on.

It´s hard to find information about the fruit other than that video....

As a side note, the fruit ressembles the longan (Dimocarpus longan) and the matoa (Pometia pinnata), I´m right?
« Last Edit: July 01, 2014, 09:11:48 AM by Cassio »

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2014, 09:13:48 AM »
In the video desciption the person said that he thought the plant belonged to rubiaceae.
I believe that this thondi fruit is actually a species of Ixora, which also belongs to rubiaceae.
Perhaps it is Ixora coccinea? The fruit's vernacular names (thechi and thetti) bear close resemblence to thondi.
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/kripal_k/2160971945/

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2014, 09:41:02 AM »
Hummm... Found the Mini-Tampoi (from Baccaurea ??) - https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/307557_546577235355491_1102657866_n.jpg. The Flesh is to much similar.
It figures in this blog: sarawakianaii.blogspot.com.

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2014, 09:44:38 AM »
May be Ixora coccinea
The plant is shrub so it can not belong to Baccaurea sp
Not possible to be a member of Meliaceae/Sapindaceae

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2014, 10:17:10 AM »
May be Ixora coccinea
The plant is shrub so it can not belong to Baccaurea sp
Not possible to be a member of Meliaceae/Sapindaceae

Roy

Roy, the ixora fruit looks different and smaller: http://www.projectnoah.org/spottings/38379039.
He says it´s a shrub, but with 10 to 15 ft tall (3 to 4m) it´s a small tree.
Looking again to my post, I see the mini-tampoi fruit (Baccaurea costulata) don´t have a red skin and the tree is taller (10 to 30 m). So, only the flesh is appeared.
I don´t think we iddentified correctly the fruit yet . ;)
« Last Edit: July 01, 2014, 10:23:25 AM by Cassio »

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #22 on: July 01, 2014, 10:30:51 AM »
I was thinking of Allophylus cobbe : http://www.flickr.com/photos/54527470@N00/8363910686#
Sapindaceae, but looks different as Digpati said.
How many seeds are in the fruit?
From the video looks like one seed!
« Last Edit: July 01, 2014, 10:32:50 AM by Taparyal »

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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #23 on: July 01, 2014, 10:42:47 AM »
Is it Allophylus cobbe family Sapindaceae as Aliq said?



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Re: THONDI FRUITS from Kerala...
« Reply #24 on: July 01, 2014, 10:48:34 AM »
Maybe Phyllanthaceae/Euphorbiaceae??
But still - difficult without flower, seed, leafs....
I don't think its Allophylus at the end - I simply tried to search plants from Kerala that correspond. But without flowers and without knowledge on fruits inside from the Keralite flora - difficult for me :(

 

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