The new soon to be released kids on the block!

[bsbullie]

I would have to kick out Sweet Tart which I really did not like. It was it's first year bearing so am giving it one more year to possibly improve.

Have found most fruit trees do not render good fruit until they have some age under their belt and that includes avocados.  Venture to say it has something to do with the fruit load to canopy/root mass balance.  Next year drop 1/2 of the fruit if the canopy will not support more.

Correct.   It also puts undue stress on the tree.  Thats why its best not to let young mango and avocado trees hold fruit to maturity.

[beefyboy]

agree with all you guys! I only let my Sweet Tart hold two at ten ft. in height and solidly rooted. All seem to never show their true flavors right away but you sure can get an idea in most cases.

[beefyboy]

All I can say is that if Phoenix is way better than Dot, all else will not matter, the Sweet Tart will be pulled!!

[zands]

Few days ago Donald Trump tweeted out that Orange Essence is his new favorite mango. That he almost felt it was named after him/ He had his groundsman plant three OE trees at his Mar Al Lago estate in Palm Beach.

[greenman62]

maybe if he likes it enough
he will invest in research to get them to grow in DC...

[EJO8]

Few days ago Donald Trump tweeted out that Orange Essence is his new favorite mango. That he almost felt it was named after him/ He had his groundsman plant three OE trees at his Mar Al Lago estate in Palm Beach.

lol wat...

[beefyboy]

Damn that was a good one!

[Mark in Texas]

Few days ago Donald Trump tweeted out that Orange Essence is his new favorite mango. That he almost felt it was named after him/ He had his groundsman plant three OE trees at his Mar Al Lago estate in Palm Beach.

iT'S GONNA BE HUGE!

Remains to be seen if Orange Essence Trump's Orange Sherbert.

[FruitFreak]

Does Bender have any of these for sale yet?

Sent you a PM

What did this PM say ? Haha

[skhan]

I know i shouldn't have, but just picked up a Phoenix.
Replacing the Meyer lemon

[FrankDrebinOfFruits]

I was excited about cotton candy... but I think I have reached the next level, which is more anxiety. How long before someone offers this via mail order?

Feels like it will be at least a couple years before it gets propagated to big/bigger nurseries.

[skhan]

Here it is, the newest memeber, a Phoenix Mango
Sorry for the bad picture, I would replace my phone but i keep spending money on trees.




Its actually pretty tall so i might have to cut it back a few inches so it branches waist height (once in the ground).
That means I'll have one scion in March.

Any info on the tree, I know it hasn't been out long?
All i know is its a Dot seedling and taste great (Rob's review)
Disease resistance? Vigor?

[bsbullie]

Here it is, the newest memeber, a Phoenix Mango
Sorry for the bad picture, I would replace my phone but i keep spending money on trees.




Its actually pretty tall so i might have to cut it back a few inches so it branches waist height (once in the ground).
That means I'll have one scion in March.

Any info on the tree, I know it hasn't been out long?
All i know is its a Dot seedling and taste great (Rob's review)
Disease resistance? Vigor?

Mother tree aside, there is no point of reference on the tree'traits grafted onto nursery stock. I guess we will all get to observe and chime in over time.

[JF]

Rob
I've heard the fruit is In The same class of ST. What size is the fruit? Can you give us the taste profile? I understand rootstock matters but is the mother tree productive ? Some of the questions we have regarding:
Phoenix
Kathy
Orange Essence
Cotton Candy

[John Travis]

Here it is, the newest memeber, a Phoenix Mango
Sorry for the bad picture, I would replace my phone but i keep spending money on trees.




Its actually pretty tall so i might have to cut it back a few inches so it branches waist height (once in the ground).
That means I'll have one scion in March.

Any info on the tree, I know it hasn't been out long?
All i know is its a Dot seedling and taste great (Rob's review)
Disease resistance? Vigor?

Great score! Where can a mango enthusiast get a tree like this in the Central/south FL area? I appreciate the help! If you end up with scions in march I have been keeping a couple root stocks around for just this occasion and would love to get scions!

[beefyboy]

Congrats John!  I just put mine in the ground two weeks ago and it is pushing hard already. The Phoenix seems to be a very vigorous variety, I gave mine plenty of room to grow without obstruction of other trees. It's parent Dot is close by however!

[johnb51]

When do Juicy Peach, Cotton Candy, and Phoenix ripen--early season, mid, or late?  I'm sure the information is somewhere on this forum, but can you make it easy for me (probably Rob)?

[bsbullie]

When do Juicy Peach, Cotton Candy, and Phoenix ripen--early season, mid, or late?  I'm sure the information is somewhere on this forum, but can you make it easy for me (probably Rob)?

Mid, late, mid, in the order you asked.

[johnb51]

Thanks, Rob.  Is Cotton Candy later than Venus, or about the same?  Oh, and is it a whole lot better?

[bsbullie]

Thanks, Rob.  Is Cotton Candy later than Venus, or about the same?  Oh, and is it a whole lot better?

I would say similar to Venus.  Have not seen Cotton Candy earlier than August.

For my taste, I prefer Cotton Candy.  Its more of a sugar bomb, with definite complexity.

[johnb51]

But Venus is generally a smaller, more manageable tree?

[johnb51]

Do both Phoenix and Juicy Peach come from Dot?  And do we know if Cotton Candy is a manageable tree and how the tree size compares in size and growth habits to Venus or Honey Kiss?

[bsbullie]

But Venus is generally a smaller, more manageable tree?

Dont know yet.  Have to see how Cotton Candy does on nursery stock.

[bsbullie]

Do both Phoenix and Juicy Peach come from Dot?  And do we know if Cotton Candy is a manageable tree and how the tree size compares in size and growth habits to Venus or Honey Kiss?

Phoenix from Dot.
Juicy Peach from Tommy Atkins (i believe crossed with Gary)

Honey Kiss is much more compact and slower than Venus.  Dont know how truly comoact Venus will be.  I have seen some sprawl a little and some not, both with medium vigor.

Again, Phoenix on nursery rootstock...have to jump in my time machine and let you know.

[johnb51]

So is it safe to say that all the good qualities of Dot have been transferred to Phoenix--super-sweetness, luscious juiciness, and rich flavor?