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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: JF on April 21, 2014, 02:17:35 PM
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I have been working in mothers yard for a while. I removed 5 30 year old ornamental trees and planted a few trees. I want to share some pics....the roots of the Jacaranda was over 200 pound! it will have a drip system and redwood mulch when finish.
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So far I've planted 17 trees and I still have to plant Pluot,Peach,Aprium,Blueberries,Nispero
Trees planted
Mangos
Carrie
Peggy
Juicy Peach
Multi-graft mango amprapali, manohar, Aloha i have to look forgot
Cuban mango from la zona experimental Santa Clara Cuba.
Annonas:
Red Genova
La Habra Sun( atemoya)
Pink Mammoth
San Mateo (cherimoya)
Campas
El Bumpo ( grafted from the mother tree from Rudy Haluza)
Pierce
Avocado
Sir Prize ( multi-grated grafted with everbearing)
Ismael (California west indian race from Cuba)
Green Sapote
Pace Mamey
Sweetheart Lychee
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/Tropica%20fruits/IMG_1107.jpg)
(http://i1018.photobucket.com/albums/af304/culov/Tropica%20fruits/IMG_1109.jpg)
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Wow, amazing collection!
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What grafts did you choose for the Sir Prize to get an ever bearing variety? I'm in LA (more silverlake area) and trying to pin down more accurate local ripening dates.
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What grafts did you choose for the Sir Prize to get an ever bearing variety? I'm in LA (more silverlake area) and trying to pin down more accurate local ripening dates.
Hi Josh
I beheaded the sir prize and did a side veener. The Ismael West Indian I did a cleft on Catalina rootstock. Avocados are easy to graft they should take during this time of the year. I don't like multi-grated avocados but I had no choice both of these trees are super vigorous.
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She has a large backyard. The soil looks good too. JF, how is your 40-in-one cherimoya doing with the unwrapped grafts?
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Great job JF, what is the tree spacing at?
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Gonna be a neat garden giving lots of fruits in no time. You did all that yourself? 8-))
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So - ya found yourself another property to molest!!!!
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And I like the intensive gardening idea - things closer together, if kept under control,
will produce some nice crops, JF!
But that tree removal - sheesh - did you get any pulled muscles from that monster???
I know I'm gettin' a bit old to do that sort of thing these days.....
Gary
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nch,nullzy,NewGen,MangoDog
the lot is 8,200 sq ft relatively small residential. I had my gardeners help me out to reduce the cost. So far it will cost me under $700 ,this includes $250 for parts for a drip system. I grafted most of the trees so there was very little cost. The spacing is 6-8 feet and I will control size of mangos and annona. The only large trees are the mamey,avocados and Lichi. The property has mature Meyers Lemon, Valencia Orange, Fuyu persimmon and oro blanco grapefruit. My 40-1 grafted atemoya is slow only a few of the naked grafts have hit., too early to tell.
MangoDog this is a prelude to an organic tropical farm in Tixkokob Yucatan
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:o
Huh?
...the YucaTAN..... 8) ??????
Gary
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:o
Huh?
...the YucaTAN..... 8) ??????
Gary
I'll tell you all about it at the mango tasting
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Looks like a great project and not costing too much the way you are doing it. The only thing I would add is grapes.
When I see walls and fences I see grape vines. It looks like a firm concrete block wall there, that posts can be put into to support grape vines.
Another bonus is being able to be able to start cleanly with the new drip irrigation
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What grafts did you choose for the Sir Prize to get an ever bearing variety? I'm in LA (more silverlake area) and trying to pin down more accurate local ripening dates.
Hi Josh
I beheaded the sir prize and did a side veener. The Ismael West Indian I did a cleft on Catalina rootstock. Avocados are easy to graft they should take during this time of the year. I don't like multi-grated avocados but I had no choice both of these trees are super vigorous.
Cool, which varieties are on the multi-graft? And Ismael sounds great, can't wait until that becomes available :)
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Frank, awesome looking yard, your Mom will be thankful in a few years.
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Your MOM has a good Son ;) 8)
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Nice yard. :)
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Incredible work JF,
Did you guys knock all that out in one weekend? That's some serious overtime, but the finished product couldn't look better..looking good!
I'm taking notes on spacing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! With this model I can easily fit a few more trees, especially since I tasted the Golden Nugget, Honey Mandarin, and Tango Mandarin this week which opened my eyes to the world of Citrus!!!!! Yep! I need to find 4 more spots for a Golden Nugget, Honey, Tango, and a Kishu Mandarin
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JF,
That's actually a pretty nice-sized backyard and large project that you have taken on. I would love a backyard that size. 8200 sq feet is big in my book, as most tract homes in SoCal are around 5000 sq feet.
Nice to see that you have some exotic/rare mango varieties...great fruit trees too that you have selected.
Good luck!
Warren
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surrounded neighbors will be jealous nice collections :)
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Thanks for the complements guys. The property has loam Clay/sandy soil, as Nullzy describe my soil, this side of town is where the avocado groves ( La Habra was the avocado capital until the growers moved to Fallbrook)were planted in the old days. I don't really see much differences between my loam soil...l live in Sunny Hills area, were all the Fracking goes on, across the street from Fullerton, my mother is closer to La Habra Heights East Whitter area.
We are thinking of putting some vines. I was thinking of miracle fruit, kiwi vines don't know if that would work. Ismael/Guerra avocados should be release in the next few years at the green scene. I love both generations the first is red/purple and a prolific bearer.
Pics of what my loam soil look like before and after.....4 years and 6" of redwood mulch....black gold high on iron
(http://s28.postimg.cc/5ab676oq1/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5ab676oq1/)
(http://s28.postimg.cc/bmqbh0rs9/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/bmqbh0rs9/)
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Thanks for the complements guys. The property has loam Clay/sandy soil, as Nullzy describe my soil, this side of town is where the avocado groves ( La Habra was the avocado capital until the growers moved to Fallbrook)were planted in the old days. I don't really see much differences between my loam soil...l live in Sunny Hills area, were all the Fracking goes on, across the street from Fullerton, my mother is closer to La Habra Heights East Whitter area.
We are thinking of putting some vines. I was thinking of miracle fruit, kiwi vines don't know if that would work. Ismael/Guerra avocados should be release in the next few years at the green scene. I love both generations the first is red/purple and a prolific bearer.
Pics of what my loam soil look like before and after.....4 years and 6" of redwood mulch....black gold high on iron
(http://s28.postimg.cc/5ab676oq1/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5ab676oq1/)
(http://s28.postimg.cc/bmqbh0rs9/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/bmqbh0rs9/)
JF
I was tlaking to Roger Meyers, He has some really good Kiwi Varieties that seem to be his main staple....that and JUJU's or something rather. I was interested in grabbing some Kiwis from him, but he said that they will need about 4 times as much water than all of your other plants...He had another varieity...I want to say it was pink Kiwi or some other random color without a green flesh that is more drought tolerant.
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6" layer of mulch eh? Would too much mulch encourage subterranean termites to form colonies under the thick layer of mulch?
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Wow JF, I got sore just looking at all that work, the yard is going to be incredible though!
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6" layer of mulch eh? Would too much mulch encourage subterranean termites to form colonies under the thick layer of mulch?
That's what UC master program calls for for...4-6" of mulch. It's decomposes fast and it has added tons of nutrients to the soil as you can see.....plus lots of worms.
Clay, I think I'm going with passion fruit
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6" layer of mulch eh? Would too much mulch encourage subterranean termites to form colonies under the thick layer of mulch?
That's what UC master program calls for for...4-6" of mulch. It's decomposes fast and it has added tons of nutrients to the soil as you can see.....plus lots of worms.
Clay, I think I'm going with passion fruit
So how is the mulch going to get into the backyard. Are you having a few pallets delivered or a truck delivering it in bulk?
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Looks like a great project and not costing too much the way you are doing it. The only thing I would add is grapes.
When I see walls and fences I see grape vines. It looks like a firm concrete block wall there, that posts can be put into to support grape vines.
Another bonus is being able to be able to start cleanly with the new drip irrigation
Zands what are your top 5 elite tier grapes...eating grapes***
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Looks like a great project and not costing too much the way you are doing it. The only thing I would add is grapes.
When I see walls and fences I see grape vines. It looks like a firm concrete block wall there, that posts can be put into to support grape vines.
Another bonus is being able to be able to start cleanly with the new drip irrigation
Zands what are your top 5 elite tier grapes...eating grapes***
I am more familiar with muscadine grapes that grow here but
My prejudice is towards dark grapes with seeds. Concord is very good...used to get those from a neighbors back yard. Muscat grapes are good though greenish....a delicacy for some
I don't like seedless green grapes but might be good to grow for children and those who refuse to deal with grape seeds
Summary--- Dark dark dark grapes, purple black what have you/ Maybe a dark red grape for variety and even a seedless one of those. Red grapes look great so they nice to grow just to get people excited
If I planted 5 grape vines in California only one would be seedless grapes and one red for visual appeal. You could grow seedless red
Dark purple-black grapes always seem to be the sweetest in supermarkets
As it is I grow zero seedless grapes since all my grapes are southern muscadine
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You want to go for seedless if its for fresh eating. Seeded if its for juice or wine. Try Canadice, Concord seedless, Swenson Red, Sweet Sensation
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6" layer of mulch eh? Would too much mulch encourage subterranean termites to form colonies under the thick layer of mulch?
That's what UC master program calls for for...4-6" of mulch. It's decomposes fast and it has added tons of nutrients to the soil as you can see.....plus lots of worms.
Clay, I think I'm going with passion fruit
So how is the mulch going to get into the backyard. Are you having a few pallets delivered or a truck delivering it in bulk?
Zands
I'm going to get in bulk and I hope they have some worm casting
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6" layer of mulch eh? Would too much mulch encourage subterranean termites to form colonies under the thick layer of mulch?
That's what UC master program calls for for...4-6" of mulch. It's decomposes fast and it has added tons of nutrients to the soil as you can see.....plus lots of worms.
Clay, I think I'm going with passion fruit
JF do you know of or have a good supplier? I love buying the Kellogs brand stuff cause its all organic mulch from CA....but i wouldnt mind looking into bulk purchases to save money.
So how is the mulch going to get into the backyard. Are you having a few pallets delivered or a truck delivering it in bulk?
Zands
I'm going to get in bulk and I hope they have some worm casting
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Clay I do. 100%!redwood worm casting $8'per 15 gallon city of La Mirada
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Clay I do. 100%!redwood worm casting $8'per 15 gallon city of La Mirada
Yeahhhhhhh Buddyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
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Nice job! I wish I had more yards to plant in!!
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Zands
I'm going to get in bulk and I hope they have some worm casting
Good going!
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I've had several request to update my mothers yard. Here are some random pics a six months review
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JF
I noticed one Mango tree looks like it has 2 central leaders...does that effect the tree structure in any way?
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JF
I noticed one Mango tree looks like it has 2 central leaders...does that effect the tree structure in any way?
Clay
The mango you are referring to has 10 varieties. All were grafted since April. It was a 3 year old Manila seedling which I grafted branch by branch. We don't know how they will hold up I prune some of the more aggresive branches in septmber.
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JF_____
Your mother's yard is off to a good start! Lots of leafy trees on the larger side. I don't see much mulch so you must be watering every day via buried hose/emitters? Or with your garden hose?
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JF_____
Your mother's yard is off to a good start! Lots of leafy trees on the larger side. I don't see much mulch so you must be watering every day via buried hose/emitters? Or with your garden hose?
thanks Zands
They're growing fast.....sunny southern exposure that's help I suppose. With regards to water, they were water every other day in the summer but now with water rations in place we can only water 2 time a week 10 minutes per station I have 8 stations. They are heavily mulched 2-4" around the dip line to retain moister
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JF - your Broadleaf Papaya's are doing MUCH better than mine, although I think mine
have some spider mites or something. Sheesh. or.....I wonder if they don't do so well
in the heat. I should ask Mike T. Usually papayas LOVE heat. Your's looks so great!
Gary
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Wow, that's a lot of work and care you put into that yard, Frank. Thanks for sharing. I notice that you use bubblers. Are they the type HD sells? Do you turn them on full, or part way? Did you start with them, or did you hand water first, when the trees were not established yet?
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JF, your mothers yard is awesome and so is your mother. She is the nicest lady and makes the best snacks. Its amazing what you've done to the yard in such short time. I especially love the multigraft Indian Mango tree.
Simon
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JF_____
Your mother's yard is off to a good start! Lots of leafy trees on the larger side. I don't see much mulch so you must be watering every day via buried hose/emitters? Or with your garden hose?
thanks Zands
They're growing fast.....sunny southern exposure that's help I suppose. With regards to water, they were water every other day in the summer but now with water rations in place we can only water 2 time a week 10 minutes per station I have 8 stations. They are heavily mulched 2-4" around the dip line to retain moister
Good going. The mulch was not too visible in the photos. Now that I think about it I probably don't water young trees any more than you do. I hit them with the garden hose on full blast for no more than 30 seconds and do this 3-4-5 times a week. Nothing when it is raining.
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JF_____
Your mother's yard is off to a good start! Lots of leafy trees on the larger side. I don't see much mulch so you must be watering every day via buried hose/emitters? Or with your garden hose?
thanks Zands
They're growing fast.....sunny southern exposure that's help I suppose. With regards to water, they were water every other day in the summer but now with water rations in place we can only water 2 time a week 10 minutes per station I have 8 stations. They are heavily mulched 2-4" around the dip line to retain moister
Good going. The mulch was not too visible in the photos. Now that I think about it I probably don't water young trees any more than you do. I hit them with the garden hose on full blast for no more than 30 seconds and do this 3-4-5 times a week. Nothing when it is raining.
You guys are lucky you get consistent rain. I'm optimistic we are going to have a wet winter I was at Manhattan beach yesterday and the water temp was 70F hopefully this translate to El Niņo
Gary
Your papayas looked great in July what happen ?
Thanks Simon
My mom is always frying something. Check out the ham croquettes in one of the pics
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Fantastic project!! Yard, trees and mulch look GREAT:)
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Great pictures, JF the mango trees are indeed growing fast. Like the broad leaf papaya, fruit must be tasty as well.
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Great results in just 6 months! Are ALL your fingers green, not just your thumbs??
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Well, JF, the ones in the ground got some kind of mites and set back their growth, and another couple
Broadleafs died, so I was semi-shading them, too, being afraid I'd lose them too. I'm wondering if they aren't as HEAT hardy as the Mexican Papaya and TR Hovey's......
here's a pic of my Broadleaf...I guess it doesn't look so bad.... G
(http://s24.postimg.cc/yp1lvnvq9/Broadleaf_Papaya_102714.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/yp1lvnvq9/)
And here's the Mexican Papaya, yes a couple years older, but about 5 feet away from the
Broadleaf babies and has a great fruit set:
(http://s28.postimg.cc/x9hj1aqc9/Mexican_Papaya_102714.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/x9hj1aqc9/)
(http://s28.postimg.cc/ddljlr9ax/Mex_Papaya_Fruit_102714.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/ddljlr9ax/)
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Well, JF, the ones in the ground got some kind of mites and set back their growth, and another couple
Broadleafs died, so I was semi-shading them, too, being afraid I'd lose them too. I'm wondering if they aren't as HEAT hardy as the Mexican Papaya and TR Hovey's......
here's a pic of my Broadleaf...I guess it doesn't look so bad.... G
(http://s24.postimg.cc/yp1lvnvq9/Broadleaf_Papaya_102714.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/yp1lvnvq9/)
And here's the Mexican Papaya, yes a couple years older, but about 5 feet away from the
Broadleaf babies and has a great fruit set:
(http://s28.postimg.cc/x9hj1aqc9/Mexican_Papaya_102714.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/x9hj1aqc9/)
(http://s28.postimg.cc/ddljlr9ax/Mex_Papaya_Fruit_102714.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/ddljlr9ax/)
Very nice Gary
Can you ID this papaya from our friend Ed? It's 3' tall and has 12 huge fruits....the tree has been on the ground 5 months
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...in the ground 5 months and has 12 huge fruit? That sounds almost too good to be true....
I've seen them before, that variety and shape I think, but can't remember what it was
called....
but WOW, how impressive! And unbelievable......
Gary
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Gary, it was "in the ground 5 months", and.... in the pot 3 years (JF forgot to mention.) :D. I just can't resist, because I am so jealous.
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...in the ground 5 months and has 12 huge fruit? That sounds almost too good to be true....
I've seen them before, that variety and shape I think, but can't remember what it was
called....
but WOW, how impressive! And unbelievable......
Gary
Good seedling genetics I would assume ;D
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@JF
We can get winter/cold seasons where it rains twice in 6 months. So plants-trees will need water especially young ones...We can get droughts where we get lots of fires in the Everglades where the smoke can be smelled where I live.
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Here are some individual trees some grafted in April
La HABRA Sun atemoya
(http://s11.postimg.cc/vzt2nv66n/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/vzt2nv66n/)
San Mateo, Campas and Pink Mammoth
(http://s11.postimg.cc/428uqf6dr/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/428uqf6dr/)
Makok nisoero
(http://s11.postimg.cc/eqclp9gcv/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/eqclp9gcv/)
(http://s11.postimg.cc/upv98tcen/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/upv98tcen/)
Whitman green zapote
(http://s11.postimg.cc/fm934pq1b/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/fm934pq1b/)
PM and Pajapita
(http://s11.postimg.cc/72l3t7sb3/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/72l3t7sb3/)
Cuban Seedless graviola
(http://s11.postimg.cc/dcgdg7rpr/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/dcgdg7rpr/)
Giant Yucatan graviola
(http://s11.postimg.cc/yndxkh9u7/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/yndxkh9u7/)
Pierce cherimoya
(http://s11.postimg.cc/g93eghxjj/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/g93eghxjj/)
Pace Mamey
(http://s11.postimg.cc/3qmszx0jz/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/3qmszx0jz/)
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Job well done. Everything looks great and an impressive collection. I like seeing the varieties your growing out.
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THANKS nch - thanks for the clarification on the "12 papayas in 5 months" super plant
that JF has - I thought it was too good to be true! So, no one has yet to
identify that papaya?
Gary
JF - you are getting good at grafting, for sure!
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THANKS nch - thanks for the clarification on the "12 papayas in 5 months" super plant
that JF has - I thought it was too good to be true! So, no one has yet to
identify that papaya?
Gary
JF - you are getting good at grafting, for sure!
Gary she's joking with you. Those papayas were 8" 5 months ago.
Here are pix of some mangos
Kesar
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Peach Cobbler
(http://s23.postimg.cc/zaqmf5y3b/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/zaqmf5y3b/)
3 n 1 Peggy, Aloha and Tamaha
(http://s23.postimg.cc/fheimgkpj/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/fheimgkpj/)
Villa Clara
(http://s23.postimg.cc/mtjys02xj/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/mtjys02xj/)
10 in 1 Kesar, Manga Amarilla, Mamey, Tamaha, Chemax, Aloha, Manohar, Bangalore, RP#2 and Mayabeque
(http://s23.postimg.cc/i6dwq8fkn/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/i6dwq8fkn/)
Sweet Tard
(http://s23.postimg.cc/6rhflm387/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/6rhflm387/)
LZ
(http://s23.postimg.cc/9a34maoyf/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/9a34maoyf/)
Juicy Peach
(http://s23.postimg.cc/4y9xjjsnr/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/4y9xjjsnr/)
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a year later many of the fruit trees that were grafted are now producing. Mangos are 2 to 3 months away from ripening. I have Sir Prize, Ismael(Cuban re avocado) fruiting. I'll post update of the entire orchard in August or September during the mango tasting
PM loaded with flower after 1 yr grafted
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some of the fruiting mangos some multi-grafted
Multi-grafted: Chemex, Bangalore, Mayabeque, Kesar, Manga Amarilla, Mahachanok (HHS),Sweet Tard and others
(http://s29.postimg.cc/i3861reg3/IMG_3361.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/i3861reg3/)
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(http://s29.postimg.cc/xd818y9yb/IMG_3363.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/xd818y9yb/)
La Habra Sun
(http://s29.postimg.cc/dwnbmfeub/IMG_3365.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/dwnbmfeub/)
Mahachanok ( Excalibur)
(http://s29.postimg.cc/ks2yrsjxf/IMG_3366.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/ks2yrsjxf/)
PSM
(http://s29.postimg.cc/5yob71c6b/IMG_3367.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5yob71c6b/)
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Amazing. I need to see this for my self.
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Amazing. I need to see this for my self.
Very soon hopefully
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wow, you can do more in 1 year than I can do in 5 years with my trees.. :-\
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wow, you can do more in 1 year than I can do in 5 years with my trees.. :-\
Haha, so true, for me as well. JF needs to have a seminar on how to grow fruit trees in SoCal.
Frank,
how much/often do you water those plants? What fertilizers?
Thanks,
Trung
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wow, you can do more in 1 year than I can do in 5 years with my trees.. :-\
Haha, so true, for me as well. JF needs to have a seminar on how to grow fruit trees in SoCal.
Frank,
how much/often do you water those plants? What fertilizers?
Thanks,
Trung
Trong
I spread a thick layer of mulch 2-3 times a year. For fertilizer I use BioFlora 6-6-6 every 3 months, foliar fert. Every 3 weeks 10-52-10 and kelp once in awhile. I water 3 x a week 1g each time
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oh, I don't do as much fertilizer or water.. maybe that's why..
I apply Dynagro 7-9-5 just once in the fall, and once or twice in spring before March.. is this the same as the BioFlora, or similar?
so every 3 weeks you apply a 10-52-10 ratio foliar fertilizer? wow.. then you must need a lot of water to wash that all out..
for the BioFlora, do you put that in the soil, or apply it as foilar spray too?
yeah, for the water, I use two 4GPHs flag drippers (one one each side) and just do 10-15 minutes every 2 days.. so that applies to about 8 x 12.5min/60min (20%) => 1.6 gallons per 2 days? sometimes I do the drip for 20+, but rarely on occasions.. but as I'm on a hillside, maybe not all the water does get to the roots for all the plants..
Thanks for your info if you can answer my questions.
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My fruit planting area is not nearly as large as your yard. For "mulch", can I just use those wood chips bags at Home Depot? I think you had your mulch delivered by the cubic yard in a truck, didn't you? I don't need that much.
For water, you said 1 gallon each time, is that just 1 gallon per tree?, so 3 gallons/tree/week, that's certainly not much water at all.
Where do you get the Bioflora 6-6-6? I typed the name in Amazon's search box, and only skin conditioning/lotion stuff came up. ;D
wow, you can do more in 1 year than I can do in 5 years with my trees.. :-\
Haha, so true, for me as well. JF needs to have a seminar on how to grow fruit trees in SoCal.
Frank,
how much/often do you water those plants? What fertilizers?
Thanks,
Trung
Trong
I spread a thick layer of mulch 2-3 times a year. For fertilizer I use BioFlora 6-6-6 every 3 months, foliar fert. Every 3 weeks 10-52-10 and kelp once in awhile. I water 3 x a week 1g each time
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My fruit planting area is not nearly as large as your yard. For "mulch", can I just use those wood chips bags at Home Depot? I think you had your mulch delivered by the cubic yard in a truck, didn't you? I don't need that much.
For water, you said 1 gallon each time, is that just 1 gallon per tree?, so 3 gallons/tree/week, that's certainly not much water at all.
Where do you get the Bioflora 6-6-6? I typed the name in Amazon's search box, and only skin conditioning/lotion stuff came up. ;D
wow, you can do more in 1 year than I can do in 5 years with my trees.. :-\
Haha, so true, for me as well. JF needs to have a seminar on how to grow fruit trees in SoCal.
Frank,
how much/often do you water those plants? What fertilizers?
Thanks,
Trung
Trong
I spread a thick layer of mulch 2-3 times a year. For fertilizer I use BioFlora 6-6-6 every 3 months, foliar fert. Every 3 weeks 10-52-10 and kelp once in awhile. I water 3 x a week 1g each time
Yes you can you find Cedar chips bags from Lowes but go to your local arborist the have great mulch. I buy BioFlora with calcium from L&M in temecula never use Dynagro you might need to increase your wTer
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Dynagro is bad? ClayMango recommended that to me last time.. which one should i use instead? Last time I saw in a post that you mentioned BioFlora Humega? is that it?
Hey Newgen, I'll try to find a place for us to buy it online.. see if you can find one too.. Thanks. They also have a "Dry Crumbles Fertilizer" too..
http://hollieshomegrown.com/images/Dry_Crumbles._Fertilizer.pdf (http://hollieshomegrown.com/images/Dry_Crumbles._Fertilizer.pdf)
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Also found this while browsing Amazon..
http://www.amazon.com/TeraVita-SP-90-Humic-Soluble-Powder/product-reviews/B00912FRO2/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending (http://www.amazon.com/TeraVita-SP-90-Humic-Soluble-Powder/product-reviews/B00912FRO2/ref=cm_cr_dp_see_all_btm?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=1&sortBy=bySubmissionDateDescending)
this might help.. I heard great things about adding humic acid to the soil.. it looks like same as others.. 1 tbsp per gallon.. also mix it in with azomite too (amazon has one in a 10 pound bag), and you have a winner.. ;D that's according to one review person though..
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Michsu, you can get azomite from CPS/L&M in Temecula too. Something like 40lb for $20
I tried going the Amazon way but shipping was too much.
The problem is I don't go to SD that much, and Temecula is not part of my route to SD.
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thanks fyliu for your information! I will try searching around for a better deal.. Thanks!
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Here is how quick things grow in a year
July 20014
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July 2015
minus Yoņito (cat), Maxi and Moni (my mastiffs)
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Good job, everything looks very happy. Your neighbors are going to have some real eye candy when all the fruits start sizing up.
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Tremendo!! Amazing job! Now you biggest concern will be prunning the trees, so that they don't get too big...
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JF - Tuffy sure is a camera hog!
And I agree with Bush2Beach - those neighbors are going to drooling when those
trees are dripping with fruit.....
Hey did you all of you in SoCal get a good rain soaking over this past weekend? Man it was
so Florida-like here - just loved it!
Drew
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JF - Tuffy sure is a camera hog!
And I agree with Bush2Beach - those neighbors are going to drooling when those
trees are dripping with fruit.....
Hey did you all of you in SoCal get a good rain soaking over this past weekend? Man it was
so Florida-like here - just loved it!
Drew
Yoņi is being territorial just in case my mastiffs get any wild ideas :)
guys this orchard is already producing but as Felipe points out containing the forest is going to be a real challenge.
Cuban and Vietnamese cachucha peppers
(http://s24.postimg.cc/o6lnedb5t/IMG_4225.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/o6lnedb5t/)
(http://s24.postimg.cc/m5v3tjf0h/IMG_4227.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/m5v3tjf0h/)
over 100 mangos and other tropicals
(http://s24.postimg.cc/nicsvfcg1/IMG_4234.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/nicsvfcg1/)
(http://s24.postimg.cc/5w4xqn4ch/IMG_4228.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5w4xqn4ch/)
Many tomato varieties
(http://s24.postimg.cc/s5iux6zsx/IMG_4230.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/s5iux6zsx/)
(http://s24.postimg.cc/3l6vmgtkx/IMG_4232.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/3l6vmgtkx/)
(http://s2.postimg.cc/4f4pttpk5/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/4f4pttpk5/)
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Wow Frank, that is amazing growth in one year you've got great climate for such good growth!! Thanks for posting all the pic's ;) 8)
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amazing!! congratulations! its an tropical paradise
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Stupendous! Thumbs up
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That is an awesome backyard you have going at your Mom's place.
Oh yeah... soil jealousy too!!! ;)
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Frank,
You are my role model!!! I'm trying to mimic your garden up north here.
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We are all craving for another update photos, Franks. ;D
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We are all craving for another update photos, Franks. ;D
Gonz, I'll do an update in May or June. We are getting great chill hours it looks like 2016 will be a stone fruit gore......now, I'll have to buy some nets so the birds don't get to the fruits before us.
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Little update. Got well over 100 mangos this year should have a good tasting
Green sapote
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Villa Clara
(http://s33.postimg.cc/5wzckjssr/IMG_8626.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5wzckjssr/)
Coc
(http://s33.postimg.cc/jj54a7gqz/IMG_8627.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/jj54a7gqz/)
LZ
(http://s33.postimg.cc/cih4hfeyz/IMG_8628.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/cih4hfeyz/)
Mahachinok
(http://s33.postimg.cc/5a0fv0vwr/IMG_8629.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5a0fv0vwr/)
(http://s33.postimg.cc/eqq91nfrf/IMG_8630.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/eqq91nfrf/)
Shindiri
(http://s33.postimg.cc/e0kybyd8r/IMG_8617.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/e0kybyd8r/)
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Zinc
(http://s33.postimg.cc/z16ej4rd7/IMG_8619.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/z16ej4rd7/)
St Maui
(http://s33.postimg.cc/byfvjypvv/IMG_8620.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/byfvjypvv/)
Sweet Tart
(http://s33.postimg.cc/66kcqk5fv/IMG_8622.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/66kcqk5fv/)
Anona Rosada
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Wow Frank, you fruited Sindhiri???? WTF, in 12 plus years USDA got only fruit once, ypu are probably the only one to fruit it and fruit it well. Looks like we will get to taste it at La Habra tasting later this year. Its offocial, best mango of pakistan fruits well in Southern California.
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Wow Frank, you fruited Sindhiri???? WTF, in 12 plus years USDA got only fruit once, ypu are probably the only one to fruit it and fruit it well. Looks like we will get to taste it at La Habra tasting later this year. Its offocial, best mango of pakistan fruits well in Southern California.
Yes, I have 7 fruits I have to stake it since this mango can reach 2 pounds! This mango has been reported as being the sweetest mango in the world. I hope it lives up to its billing
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Frank.... You are the man...... Although I won't get a taste you know what i'll be looking for.....Regards...Mike
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Fabulous!
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Looks good to me.Mom will soon be picking fresh ..everything.
Is that Pace Mamey an iffy plant? Or is it established they grow in soucal's 'better climates? I like the look of the tree...very tropical.
Congrat.
Everything I add from the Philippines my wife enjoys. Happy Wife,happy gardening. :D
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Awesome!
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JF, your trees and mangos look prestine as usual. Every year, the mango tastings here get better and better. I can't believe the diversity of mangos you are growing!
Simon
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Man, you guys are super fast with the growth. Mine is just the size of my big toe now. I am salivating over your mango Frank.
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Thanks fellas.
Stan, Pace has been a slower grower and I've experience some dieback in the winter. A better grated mamey is Magana or a number of local varieties we've discover in the last few years. Here is a pic of my Magana that fruited last year.....local varieties fruit well. Mark Lee and hope to graft some of those this summer plus our mamey Colorado from the Yucatan.
(http://s33.postimg.cc/g8g5mbywr/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/g8g5mbywr/)
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...way to go little buddy! Mine are getting to head-damaging size, some of them.....
I've got an Edward that could go in the Guinness book.....
Gary
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Any picture of your Edward, Gary?
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Really nice mangoes, I am always amazed at the amount of large high quality mangoes JF produces from his yard.
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JF,there was a guy who used to post on gardenweb...he about stopped right before I got into reading there website. I think his name was J.Fernandez. Is that you?
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JF,there was a guy who used to post on gardenweb...he about stopped right before I got into reading there website. I think his name was J.Fernandez. Is that you?
yes JF. what ever happen to that forum?
So Gary, July tasting?
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Looking good!
Now when is the tasting? I want to reserve the charter bus asap..............
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I'm surprised you still have lawn,TF. All that prime sun area! You must have plans,I know it.. ;)
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..... well JF. might be July we'll know in a few weeks and
how everything survives the predicted 120 on Monday....
Gary
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according to this post, cambodian mango is better than pakistani. Has anyone ever tried it before?
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/7days/%E2%80%98chinese-glass%E2%80%99-variety-clearly-tastiest-mangoes-around-phnom-penh (http://www.phnompenhpost.com/7days/%E2%80%98chinese-glass%E2%80%99-variety-clearly-tastiest-mangoes-around-phnom-penh)
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..... well JF. might be July we'll know in a few weeks and
how everything survives the predicted 120 on Monday....
Gary
Should be fine. Israel has Mango groves in the dead sea. The Coachella Valley investors know every year they are going to get a blast of furnace...doesn't hurt the trees.
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..... well JF. might be July we'll know in a few weeks and
how everything survives the predicted 120 on Monday....
Gary
Should be fine. Israel has Mango groves near the dead sea. The Coachella Valley investors know every year they are going to get a blast of furnace...doesn't hurt the trees.
Stanly, no they won't be just fine. Gary has posted thru the years during his heatwaves ......do a forum search.
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Gary, can you put up temporary shade cloth over all the mango trees? My trees get burned above ~102F. We should all try to prep our trees for this heatwave by making sure they are watered in really well before the heatwave comes. If you water too much during the heatwave, some fruit may crack.
Simon
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Gary, can you put up temporary shade cloth over all the mango trees? My trees get burned above ~102F. We should all try to prep our trees for this heatwave by making sure they are watered in really well before the heatwave comes. If you water too much during the heatwave, some fruit may crack.
Simon
Simon is absolutely right. Low 100's new growth will fry and keep mangos moist around around drip line . Another no, no is to plant mangos. I had a madden Francis died during a 117f heatwave sept 2010
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Gary, hope all your plants pull through. I'm preparing as well but it's only going to be around 100 in my area. Today's still good at 85 high.
I give advice to people who ask for it or ideas. What do you do? "It wont grow!"..waaaaa. "Unless its in Anaheimbra". Good for you. In z9's and low 10a's is what I'm used to.
Let me remind...soucal ain't Sinaloa or Honolulu. Its just 20% milder then the bay area. Maybe less. The bay area is a hell of a lot more soucal like then soucal is Hawaii to Tropical name your country.
I agree geographically. I stopped calling it norcal after realizing there's more than 50% of California to the north of it. Do people in the SF bay area say they're from norcal or just bay area? Anyway I welcome you if you want to be part of socal.
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ha! Thanks Fy. I thought 10a California was enough to join the club! I guess all them Breadfruit tree's and waving coconut palms near Disneyland caused me to get a bit miffed at being talked down to.
Must be where I'm from.
Also- not just closer in miles,but in climate.
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Simon is spot on - I have covered with shade cloth maybe parts of 7-8 trees as a precaution
I've got some mangoes next to walls or exposed in some other ways which can be
quite debilitating at these temps, but no, in general, a few days of 115 - 120 probably wouldn't kill
a tree that's at least say 3 years old....a branch possibly but only those fully exposed to the sun.I have a bunch of new
growth that I want to try and save on some trees so I took the effort to cover them. It is getting
difficult as they get taller so those bigger trees are on their own and actually seem to be get through it fine.
The biggest problem I have (and I wonder if Debra Wong with her mango trees down in the East Valley has them)
is fruit scald/burn from sun-exposed fruit. I can't imagine she doesn't bag them or something so they are
protected because she def. couldn't sell them at any farmer's market. It usually causes early fruit drop
that what would otherwise be a promisingly great mango down the road, but even if it makes it to full ripeness
it carries a very damaged top usually around the stem. I should email and ask her.....
And I will confess, I do baby my trees (children) perhaps more than most growers
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:P
Gary
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Congrats, guys.... You pulled me out of retirement!!!!
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Hey JF,
Can we get an update on your mom's back yard? We would love to see what the jungle looks like after three and a half years of hard work.
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Hey JF,
Can we get an update on your mom's back yard? We would love to see what the jungle looks like after three and a half years of hard work.
JF, actually uploaded in the 2017 socal mango tasting.
Here is the link reply #18
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25557.0 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25557.0)
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Hey JF,
Can we get an update on your mom's back yard? We would love to see what the jungle looks like after three and a half years of hard work.
JF, actually uploaded in the 2017 socal mango tasting.
Here is the link reply #18
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25557.0 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25557.0)
Thank you gozp.