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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marang on Jackfruit
« on: Today at 03:14:35 AM »
Hey Peter...here is an excellent video of the method that I used.  As you will see in the video, the bark is much thicker than the scion, so he needs to put something on top of the scion in order to be able to anchor it down.  I've seen others just scrap away the surrounding bark until it is lower than the scion allowing the cord to anchor the scion. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPOVj_elNqA

Mike...yeah, there were a few articles covering jack on marang.  However, the successful takes were not that great.  I was hoping the jack would fruit on the other branches, but according to my mother-in-law, it rarely fruited and when it did, they didn't enjoy the fruit.  Was sold to her as Daeng Surya, but ended up being something else entirely.  This is why I was using this particular tree for my experiment.  Nothing to lose.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marang on Jackfruit
« on: Today at 01:12:07 AM »
I made a traditional approach graft cut into the scion...so the cambium would be present on both sides of the flat cut.  That surface was attached to the branch that had its cambium exposed when I removed the bark.  So yeah...there is definitely cambium to cambium contact.  The area on the tree branch is all cambium...so nothing to line up.  It's actually a very, nearly, fool-proof method.  Where you might get into trouble is attaching the scion to branch/trunk that is too small and the surface is more rounded/curved, than flat.  Then you may have trouble getting good contact with the cambium on the scion.  I've had this issue when trying this on mangoes.

As I first mentioned, I've seen papers where grafting jackfruit onto marang has been successful.  To me, it only makes sense that the reverse should be true as well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Marang on Jackfruit
« on: March 27, 2024, 08:55:29 PM »
Growinginphoenix...I wish!  I'm in Thailand now.

Peter...I removed a square of bark only, leaving just cambium behind in that square.  I then made the cut to the scion.  With this method, there really is nothing to match up.  As long as the bark comes off nicely, should be good to go.  This method is used on large trees when grafting scions or approach grafting.  Most videos show guys just scraping away the bark with a large knife.  Having the bark peel away gave me better peace of mind.

The graft site is fused and already healing over well.  I'm now just waiting for the bark of the jack to further grow over the site.  The "graft" itself is successful, but keep in mind it is still attached to its own roots.  I'm hoping the amount of time I'm giving the graft helps with long term acceptance.  I think with this method of grafting...allowing the bark to overgrow the scion further cementing the graft, this prevents the scion breaking away during long-term incompatibility...the sucker is there to stay!  There are many variables involved with incompatibility and most are not observable to us.  Even very strong graft unions can fail months, even years, down the road.  One article I read said there are some signs such as pronounced bulge or a necrotic layer at graft site or suckers developing which indicates a poor vascular connection...this is more of a short-term compatibility issue.

Things will get interesting once I remove the roots.  If it's going to fail, I want it to fail right away.  No sense dragging out expectations!  LOL! 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Marang on Jackfruit
« on: March 27, 2024, 12:18:39 AM »
I found several papers on grafting jackfruit onto marang, but none for marang onto jack.  There is a good probability of eventual failure, but it's a neat experiment for me in the meantime.

I approach grafted the marang onto the jack back on January 2.  As you can see, the graft is very secure and the bark is starting to close in on the graft site.  I'm being very patient/cautious.  I plan to leave the root ball attached until more of the graft is covered, then I will slowly cut away below the graft.

Today I removed the huge branch the graft is on.  Hopefully this will direct more energy into the graft.  I will remove the rest of the branches after this as well.  I want to keep them for now to support the whole tree.  The jackfruit itself is pretty much a dud and I would have removed it, but we'll see how this pans out.









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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Now langsat in Seattle?!?!
« on: March 17, 2024, 07:34:04 AM »
This is very obviously a scam.  If you look at her Facebook profile, there are no posts, pictures, or anything. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone growing rare artocarpus?
« on: March 05, 2024, 06:03:37 AM »
Your pedalai is getting huge!  Looking good Warren!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Langsat Defoliation
« on: February 11, 2024, 07:02:58 AM »
I would leave the corky bark alone.  Most of the trees here in Thailand have that and I've not seen anyone bother with it.  Did you get a cold spike?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Basket shipping
« on: January 19, 2024, 07:30:31 PM »
I think it has more to do with the packages being transported and delivered by so many different vehicles from trucks to mopeds.  The delivery people here really hustle their asses off delivering packages, food, mail, and people.  So far...delivery has been much much faster than USPS could ever dream and I've not had anything damaged unless it was the seller's poor boxing...such as with fresh fruit.  But even trees coming in boxes have been packed and secured very well.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Basket shipping
« on: January 19, 2024, 06:53:27 AM »
This is the ONLY way a new tree should be shipped in my opinion.  No boxes thrown on top to crush or snap the trunk of your new addition.  Not confined to a hot, dark box for days.  USPS and the rest back in the states would lose their shit over this!





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you grow Marang in Florida?
« on: December 05, 2023, 07:25:27 PM »
Brian...very lovely trees.  Great job on shaping them.  If it were me...I'd keep on pruning and shaping and would most definitely clear the area to give these room!  LOL!  Or...build a bigger greenhouse dude!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can you grow Marang in Florida?
« on: December 03, 2023, 07:49:59 PM »
Great job Brian!  The tree is looking awesome.  I like how the branching is progressing.  Could you take a wider angled shot getting the entire tree?  Thanks

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Fruitguy is alive!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: November 11, 2023, 08:33:44 PM »
That graveolens looks stunning!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time trying cherapu
« on: October 20, 2023, 07:35:57 AM »
It's definitely a collector's tree and I thought it tasted wonderful.  As stated, I believe the biggest issue with the latex was the fruit getting clobbered during shipping.  So yes, definitely worth growing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time trying cherapu
« on: October 19, 2023, 09:05:19 PM »
Tongmuan...yeah...I saw the new ads for more cherapu.  None of these folks know the proper way to ship fruit and I agree, all the banging around in the box is most likely the main culprit wit the latex.  The pics also showed a lot of unripened fruit being shipped.  For these reasons I opted not to order another box.

Brandon...yeah, got gobs and gobs of seeds!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: October 16, 2023, 11:38:41 PM »
Awesome!  I know that there is keledang and willughbeias available right now in some areas, so you should get some cool stuff.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: October 16, 2023, 09:01:35 PM »
Peter and Ben...I thought the main season is past already???  I see some pics of cool fruits still being harvested though.  Maybe we should organize a trip for next year???  I'm sure Lindsay could help out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time trying cherapu
« on: October 12, 2023, 11:02:40 PM »
Peter...that is encouraging at least.  As mentioned, the fruit took a beating so maybe that had something to do with it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time trying cherapu
« on: October 12, 2023, 06:37:28 PM »
Tongmuan...With lots and lots of searching, I've found that there are sellers out there offering up some really neat, rare stuff.  Just wish I had room for them all.  Hope the cherapu order works out for you.

Peter...I truly hope that the riper the fruit, the less latex it may have.  Many of these fruits I considered very ripe.  It is possible that the beating the fruit took was somewhat responsible for distributing more latex throughout the flesh.  This experience sure let the wind out of my sails for this fruit.  As good as it is, this amount of latex would just not be tolerable for me.  Eating 1-2 fruits is probably not an issue.  But dang!  Who could sit and eat just 1-2 of these?  I'd have to get a bulk supply of toothbrushes!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time trying cherapu
« on: October 12, 2023, 07:49:26 AM »
Hey Brandon...I wish.  Everybody on the FB group claiming that the latex is normal.  I get it being in the skin, but to actually be a part of the fruit is f'd up!  My toothbrush has turned gray!  All the family members loved it...until they got up to wash their hands and found that even the soap stuck to them!!!  LOL!  The bitching was comical...and all directed at me!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First time trying cherapu
« on: October 12, 2023, 07:17:39 AM »
Not sure if same guy, but try this link.  It is where we ordered ours.  https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100065196382806

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / First time trying cherapu
« on: October 12, 2023, 03:39:18 AM »
Cherapu...button mangosteen...garcinia prainiana.  I've been waiting 20 years to taste this fruit.  Much smaller than I thought they would be, but even the small ones had a surprising amount of flesh to them.  This is the first time that a shipment has gone somewhat bad.  Much of the fruit is smashed and half the box is soaked and falling apart.

The fruit itself is fabulous.  I really like this.  It has the tropical tang with hints of garcinia and tangerine.  They peel open very easily and the seeds come out without much hassle...and only a few of those.

The bad.  Latex latex latex!!  Fingers and lips were covered with a thick coating of it.  My teeth!  They felt like they were covered in epoxy that was half cured.  I ruined a tooth brush cause it is now all gummed up.  Jeesh!

Someone please tell me that this is not normal and that the latex is not always this bad!








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Grafted mangosteen
« on: October 08, 2023, 08:23:23 PM »
Tropical Plantae in PR normally has grafted trees available.  However...they are crazy expensive!  No permits are necessary coming from PR, but phyto certificates are required for certain states.  It is much easier, cheaper, and faster getting something from PR than it is from Hawaii.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Godzilla in Thailand
« on: October 08, 2023, 02:20:09 AM »
These a-holes are probably the ones digging around my pulasan mounds.  Can't let that continue.  Traps are set to discourage this.

These first two pics are me helping a neighbor chase away a big one that was going after one of his little dogs.  I had a long pole with a saw blade on the end that I snagged his back legs with to drag him to the canal.  He was a big one.



This was this morning.  This one got wrapped up in some fishing line.  He was up near my pulasans and got the hook caught on one of the bamboo supports for the shade cloth.  The other end was wrapped around his neck and was pretty tired by the time I found him.  Still had some fight in him cause he started doing some gater rolls and snapped the line.  Saved me the effort of trying to pin him down to cut it off!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Grafted mangosteen
« on: October 05, 2023, 07:23:50 AM »
So did you give them the proper permits and labels and all that?  5 days is pretty darn good all things considering.  I'd have that thing under plastic to bolster the humidity.  You'll have your work cut out for you heading into fall/winter.  Air will be very dry.  Good luck!

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