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Identify This Plant (picture included)
« on: May 04, 2012, 12:22:11 PM »
OK, this plant is growing as a volunteer in my planter where previous Owner had Persimmon and she took that tree with her. The leaves dont look like Persimmon to me.

Is this any kind of fruit seedling?


 

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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2012, 12:28:43 PM »
Looks like an avocado?
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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2012, 12:34:11 PM »
I will compare it to Avacado, but Avacado leaves are not this light green shiny, are they? Its new growth from ground so its hard to tell.

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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2012, 12:34:40 PM »
I was going to guess avocado as well.
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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2012, 12:46:50 PM »
Looks avocadoish to me.
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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2012, 01:37:49 PM »
American persimmon (used for rootstock) suckers heavily from the roots. That's likely either asian or american persimmon.
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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2012, 01:42:31 PM »
I would lean towards persimmon too, reason is that this planter had a big persimmon tree that fruited a lot, it could be seedlings from fallen fruit OR suckes from removed tree roots. I got like 4 of these seedlings coming up. I guess I will leave them alone and see what I get, if anything these would be nice lush green ornamentals.

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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2012, 01:08:40 PM »
OK, I had a nursery man look at it while he delivered my trees. He said its persimmon growing from rootstock. He said I could graft onto these suckers as they seem to have very healthy roots. I will let them grow wild for now.

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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2012, 03:50:52 AM »



I was just fiddling with a few of my pots inspecting for pests.If you can't read the labels seedling can be challenging to identify. 

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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #9 on: May 09, 2012, 11:11:45 AM »
Where I'm at the birds steal the pot stickers to make nests :-).
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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2012, 05:31:08 AM »



This tree began fruiting in its 5th year and is just about my only fruit tree that doesn't have either birds,bats,bugs,cockatoos or other animals damaging the fruit.Do you recognize it?

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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2012, 06:27:13 AM »
Mike T, are the fruits cone-shaped and pink or red, with white flesh and one seed or an airspace in the middle?  If so, it is Wax-Jambo.
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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2012, 06:48:09 AM »
No guanabanus not S.mallacenses,samarangense or aqueum and in fact not even a Myrtaceae.This is a large leafed form with larger leaves you can see 9-11 inches (22.5 to 27.5cm) long.It fruits towards the end of summer at my place and sometimes has a second crop in the middle of spring.It doesn't even have real seeds just nucellar inclusions.

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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2012, 06:57:20 AM »
No guanabanus not S.mallacenses,samarangense or aqueum and in fact not even a Myrtaceae.This is a large leafed form with larger leaves you can see 9-11 inches (22.5 to 27.5cm) long.It fruits towards the end of summer at my place and sometimes has a second crop in the middle of spring.It doesn't even have real seeds just nucellar inclusions.

Is it the large leaved mangosteen from Phillippines?
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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2012, 07:04:12 AM »
Fruitlovers bingo but of malaysian origin.I can see it will be tough to slide one past you.The hybridizing event looks like it happened several times .A friend has a huge fruiting one from borneo and it is his most prized fruit tree.

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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2012, 07:55:19 PM »
Fruitlovers bingo but of malaysian origin.I can see it will be tough to slide one past you.The hybridizing event looks like it happened several times .A friend has a huge fruiting one from borneo and it is his most prized fruit tree.

Will be hard Mike, but i'm sure you'll keep trying! HAHAHA At a distance i often confuse mangosteen and malay apple trees. They kind of look similar--or maybe i just need to visit the optometrist?  ;)
Have you had fruit off the large leaved mangosteen? How is the fruit different from regular mangosteen? What virtues if any does the tree have over regular mangosteen?
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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2012, 05:46:43 AM »



If the guava and market selection is proving too challenging ( Iam very surprized) then identifying something easy can get tropical fruit enthusiasts in the zone.

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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2012, 06:08:36 AM »
Your other was too easy, as is this one: bilimbi, and at this time all Floridians are cutting wood, as in zzZZZZZ
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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2012, 06:20:15 AM »
Yes oscar of course.Bilimbi was a bit lame but there isn't much in my yard fruiting that is a challenge at the moment.Mangosteen have only subtle differences in sweetness,fruit size,seediness and skin thickness.The larger leafed ones often have slightly larger fruit with skin a little thinner and may have larger crops but not for all larger leafed ones.They seem to come from different places and aren't all identical.Borneo large fruiting ones are not as sweet, take longer to begin fruiting but there is a much higher flesh yield.I assume the smaller leafed common ones are more cold tolerant and they seem to more often have a second crop but fruit smaller.

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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2012, 04:02:56 AM »
Mike, ever tried pickling the bilimbis? They make really excellent pickles! We're addicted to them, ditto for starfruit. I've heard there are sweet version of bilimbi in Phillippines but have not been able to get seed yet. Do you have it down under?
Thanks for the info on large leaved mangosteen.
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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2012, 04:16:29 AM »
Fruitlovers the bilimbis and star gooseberries are pretty common as the provide a sour element in much cooking,especially asian cooking but there are no sweet ones around.Sour types of starfruit are also grown for this purpose as green sweet types taste different.

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Re: Identify This Plant (picture included)
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2012, 04:46:17 AM »
Fruitlovers the bilimbis and star gooseberries are pretty common as the provide a sour element in much cooking,especially asian cooking but there are no sweet ones around.Sour types of starfruit are also grown for this purpose as green sweet types taste different.

Sour types of starfruit are practically extinct here.
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