Daintree a lot of us did not know about the no no list. We did not even know you needed a permit to ship and seeds. Is there any way we can pin a list in the citrus forum? Maybe a post stating that it is illegal to ship seeds without permits and no citrus into the USA. Everyone here are not citrus experts some are here to learn. I know that I did not know this until someone posted it on one of the threads that I replied to. You see these seeds cuttings and etc offered on Ebay and Etsy so you think it is OK to buy.