Dear Sapodilla Wizards

[Cookie Monster]

I purchased this 'Alano' sapodilla many years ago, only to find that what I had purchased was not an 'Alano'. For the past couple of years, I've been trying to figure out what cultivar this tree really is. Below are pictures of the fruit and the leaves. I think it's either a Moreno or a Molix. Can any of you smarty pants identify it?









Thanks for the help!

[FlyingFoxFruits]

I'm no whiz but I'd say it looks like molix

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[Cookie Monster]

HAHAHAHAHA

[Guanabanus]

In Yucatec Mayan, 'Molix,' said moh-LEESH, means "curly," referring to the wavy margins of the leaves.  Your pictue shows straight-edged leaves, so it is not 'Molix.  [I was translating for Gary Zill when he procured this variety in Oxkutzcab, Yucatán, México.]

The fruit shape and colored new growth looks like 'Alano' to me.

[Cookie Monster]

Ohh, very interesting. Thanks, Har! That must have been fun hunting for sapodilla varieties in Mexico :-).

In Yucatec Mayan, 'Molix,' said moh-LEESH, means "curly," referring to the wavy margins of the leaves.  Your pictue shows straight-edged leaves, so it is not 'Molix.  [I was translating for Gary Zill when he procured this variety in Oxkutzcab, Yucatán, México.]

[fruitlovers]

What's eating your sapodilla leaves? Nothing touches them here.
Oscar

[Cookie Monster]

It's the Sri Lankan weevil -- which has become a terrible nuisance within the past year or so. They were introduced 7 or 8 years ago but have multiplied like crazy and have voracious appetites. They also don't have a downtime; they feed pretty much 365 days of the year. I h8 them :-(.

What's eating your sapodilla leaves? Nothing touches them here.
Oscar

[Squam256]

It's the Sri Lankan weevil -- which has become a terrible nuisance within the past year or so. They were introduced 7 or 8 years ago but have multiplied like crazy and have voracious appetites. They also don't have a downtime; they feed pretty much 365 days of the year. I h8 them :-(.

What's eating your sapodilla leaves? Nothing touches them here.
Oscar

For some reason the weevils seem to be avoiding my sapodilla trees. They're fond of the mangoes, avocados and lychees, and they LOVE the loquats.

[Cookie Monster]

What's interesting is that they seem to have cultivar preference :-). They don't touch my makok.

It's the Sri Lankan weevil -- which has become a terrible nuisance within the past year or so. They were introduced 7 or 8 years ago but have multiplied like crazy and have voracious appetites. They also don't have a downtime; they feed pretty much 365 days of the year. I h8 them :-(.

For some reason the weevils seem to be avoiding my sapodilla trees. They're fond of the mangoes, avocados and lychees, and they LOVE the loquats.

[JoeP450]

Those weevils are such a nuisance, in my garden they eat the hell out of lychee, and barbados cherry, but stay away from the mangos.

_JoeP450

What's interesting is that they seem to have cultivar preference :-). They don't touch my makok.

It's the Sri Lankan weevil -- which has become a terrible nuisance within the past year or so. They were introduced 7 or 8 years ago but have multiplied like crazy and have voracious appetites. They also don't have a downtime; they feed pretty much 365 days of the year. I h8 them :-(.

For some reason the weevils seem to be avoiding my sapodilla trees. They're fond of the mangoes, avocados and lychees, and they LOVE the loquats.

[mangomandan]

like Joe said.

[fruitlovers]

Eegads!!! Hope we don't get them here.
Oscar

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Wonder if spraying hot pepper oil (capsaicin) will deter these little buggers

[fruitlovers]

Wonder if spraying hot pepper oil (capsaicin) will deter these little buggers

There is a product that is hot pepper mixed in a wax solution. It sticks to the plant so it doesn't get washed off by rain. If caspaicin works on these weevils that would be the product to use.
Oscar

[bsbullie]

I purchased this 'Alano' sapodilla many years ago, only to find that what I had purchased was not an 'Alano'. For the past couple of years, I've been trying to figure out what cultivar this tree really is. Below are pictures of the fruit and the leaves. I think it's either a Moreno or a Molix. Can any of you smarty pants identify it?









Thanks for the help!

Jeff - does it have a full brown sugar taste or a mild brown sugar taste ?  From the color I am leaning toward Morena (from all of the Morena I have had they have that similar color and a mild brown sugar to almost white sugar taste).

[Cookie Monster]

bsbullie, I think you hit the nail on the head. It's a mild brown sugar taste, and when I spoke to a more knowledgeable person at the nursery where I purchased this, they said that morena was one of the few cultivars they propagate.

Jeff - does it have a full brown sugar taste or a mild brown sugar taste ?  From the color I am leaning toward Morena (from all of the Morena I have had they have that similar color and a mild brown sugar to almost white sugar taste).

[natsgarden123]

Jeff
Im a little confused about weevils- I have ( had) the white weevils -people said they were "leaf notchers" others said they were sri lankan root weevils. Whats the difference?  I spayed with Sevin over the summer and I havent seen any since. Do you ever treat them? Young trees especially?
thanks   Nat

[Cookie Monster]

The Sri Lankan weevil is relatively new and appears to be much more aggressive. I'm not really a fan of using pesticides, but I did try sevin once, and it worked about about 2 weeks until another wave of hungry weevils invaded again. Quite possibly the cold cut down the populations where you're located. Here they've started to wreak havoc in the past year or two. At this point, I've resolved myself to living with notched leaves.

[Carbo]

I had to deal with them for the first time recently.  Everyday I'd find a half dozen or more on my Cogshall, devouring the leaves.  I've been using an organic insecticidal soap with good results.  Then, mysteriously, about two weeks ago they disappeared and I haven't seen one since.

[natsgarden123]

My newly planted Hasya has a very few leaves which were eaten..its like they tasted it and went away. Over the summer the weevils loved the mango.  Seven really worked .

[DuncanYoung]

Trying to identify this sapodilla variety, planted in the 1950's.  Could this be a "Martin".  Brown sugar inside and tasty.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Variety could be "sapodillionare"? Or sensationodilla?

If u wanna name it that! Lol

[bsbullie]

Trying to identify this sapodilla variety, planted in the 1950's.  Could this be a "Martin".  Brown sugar inside and tasty.

What is the texture/stone cell content of the fruit like ?  It looks like a variety called "Brown Sugar".

[DuncanYoung]

Texture is brown sugary and slightly granular.  6 black seeds.

[bsbullie]

Texture is brown sugary and slightly granular.  6 black seeds.

From your description above I believe the variety is Brown Sugar.  Brown Sugar is one of the sweetest saps with a heavy distinct brown sugar taste.  The only drawback some find with it is the heavy stone cell content (or brown sugar/granular texture you described).