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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Zill Mangos Info
« on: March 27, 2012, 01:12:13 PM »
That's pretty funny. That was one of my wife's favorite novelas "Betty la fea".

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Excalibur Red Jackfuit
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:35:49 AM »
Ohh my gosh. It sounds like black friday at walmart. I hope no one got injured :-).

That's a very strange set up for a sale. I don't think i would like that!  >:(
Oscar

Oscar, thanks for the advice on the loose soil to tell if it was newly potted.  The setup was actually pretty good, we may not have done a good job of explaining it.  It was well run after they got the "bugs" out of it.  It was an area about the size of a NBA size basketball court.  The plants were organized in four rows.  Customers were given a map of where different species were located, so you could find trees.  The potted plants had a price tag stapled to the pots.  The back side of the tag said which nursery provided the plant.  There were three or four cashiers where you could pay for purchases, using only cash or check.  The tags were made, so that a portion would be torn off at the time of purchase, so the sellers could be paid, etc. 

I went two times during the sale and had two totally different experiences.  My first visit...I showed up around 15 minutes before it opened and there was a line of about 20 people ahead of me.  By the time it opened, there were about 30 people behind me.  When it opened, there was sort of a stampede.  It was crowded, people were rushing to get what they wanted; it was a bit chaotic.   There were no carts available, unless you brought your own.  As a short cut, people would cut thru the rows of plants, sometimes trampling the plants a little.  I asked a volunteer to help me, he helped me pick out a few plants, but then someone else lured him away.  I put my plants in the holding area, where I went to get the rest of the things on my list.  I bought five plants and a bag of fertilizer.  At checkout, I paid with cash.  The cashier (an elderly volunteer) "tested" the money with a black ball point pen and thought my money was counterfeit (it wasn't).  Another volunteer politely pointed out that the cashier had used the wrong pen to test the money.  In fairness, I was probably one of the first people to check out, so they had not worked all of the "bugs" out.

My second visiti...a friend wanted to go to the sale later in the day, so I went with her around noon.  It was a different experience.  It was no longer crowded.  There were more volunteers than customers and volunteers would ask if they could help.  Some volunteers had carts to transport plants.  There were a lot less trees there, but you wouldn't have known except that I had been there earlier when there were a lot more.  They were out of fertilizer.  I bought one more plant, my friend bought two.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Zill Mangos Info
« on: March 27, 2012, 11:32:59 AM »
You serious?

A new variety "Ugly Betty" is supposed to be released some time next year! It supposed to be an AWESOME mango with an extremely strong boquet!

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I have a (grafted) Black Gold that's roughly 6 years old. It's been a slow grower, no more than 10 feet tall. It has just barely started to fruit this year. It has 14 fruits so far and appears to want to be a heavy bearer.

Now that I'm really into this stuff I remember buying a Blackgold jackfruit from Robert is here and it being quite nice tasting and really big. Does anyone on here have experienced planting and growing Blackgold jackfruit in their yard. Does it grow well and fast and fruit heavy?

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Excalibur Red Jackfuit
« on: March 26, 2012, 06:46:01 PM »
Yep, Harry makes good points.

In general it's good practice to refrain from selling trees which have not fully rooted out. But, in low-supply, high-demand situations, buyers are annoyed if they are not able to buy that one tree they've been desperately wanting to locate.

Over the years, we fruit enthusiasts develop an eye for discerning the good, strong and healthy trees. A desirable specimen should be firm in the soil and should not be in the state of 'hibernation' induced by being in the same size pot for way too long. But newbies don't yet have that eye and really need to be given good advice on how to care for their trees.

It's difficult for nurserymen to sell fully rooted out trees year-round. Generally potting up occurs in the fall or the spring, and it takes 2 or 3 months for most trees to sufficiently root out. So, if the buyer happens to come during the time of  the year that pot-up happens, they will either get lucky and get a large tree just ready to move to a larger pot size, or they will get a tree that was just recently potted up and not fully rooted out. Some nurseries will have overlapping stock to deal with this issue. They up-pot a portion at a time, starting with the larger trees first. But, this doesn't work too well in high-demand, low-supply situations.

One way for the buyer to deal with the supply/demand issue is to stay away from the 'cutting-edge'. With most products, there is a huge price differential between mainstream and cutting-edge models.. the latter of which are obsolete in very short order :-). This is true with computers, cell phones, .. and even plants :-). You can either get a giant - say - Rosigold for cheap (because it's not the current fad) or a tiny Mahachanok for a lot of $$ :-).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The importance of Mulch?
« on: March 26, 2012, 11:06:46 AM »
On a newly planted tree, I leave a couple inches of space between the mulch and the trunk. Once the tree gets more established, I'll leave more space. It also helps to build a little moat around the tree (maybe 2 feet in diameter) to hold in the water. Otherwise, the water can tend to run off and not get absorbed into the soil..

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The importance of Mulch?
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:55:57 PM »
Mulch makes a big difference, especially for younger trees. It makes a huge difference as to how long the soil will retain water. It  also cuts back on weed growth near the trunk which saves your trees from the dreaded string trimmer and keeps your young trees from having to compete with weeds and grass for water and nutrition. It also breaks down and adds to the soil.

I went ahead and mulched my entire backyard (250 cubic yards worth  ;-).

One again a disagreement with my hubbie- He says that mulch doesnt really make a difference to the health of a tree here in our sandy soil. any thoughts?

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I think the Diamond River was the one that had a yucky medicinal aftertaste one year. It was nice seeing the tree loaded with fruit in september though. I thought the Biew Kiew was a late season bearer too? I"ve seen them with fruit into late sept.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need Help Identifying Tree
« on: March 25, 2012, 11:37:30 PM »
Looks like Antidesma (Bignay)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Canistel fruit problem
« on: March 23, 2012, 09:05:31 PM »
When did the tree start flowering? Is it a grafted tree or a seedling?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos with Dimples?
« on: March 22, 2012, 01:15:26 PM »
HAHAHAHAHA

Both my Edward and Coco Cream are putting out dimpled mangos too. It's probably normal. They should smooth out by maturity.

So, my Cogshall is spitting out mangos for the first time.  She has about a dozen golf ball sized ones on the tree now.  I've noticed a few of the mangos have a dimpled appearance, not looking like any mango I've seen before.  Of course, I can't speak from experience since, as I said, this is my first run in with these babies.  A few of the mangos, a bit larger ones, do not have that dimpled exterior.
Am I imagining things?  Worrying over nothing?  A new and rare disease?
...or, you are about to lose your cookies, er, mangoes :D

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Looks like either poopy soil or root damage? I might try giving it a little slow release fert and then waiting for the problem to correct itself.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dear Sapodilla Wizards
« on: March 22, 2012, 01:12:38 PM »
HAHAHAHAH That is so true. Our neighbor has a big seedling sapodilla whose fruits are like little sand bags. I love those things! The neighbor refuses to eat them, so that leaves big sapodilla bounty for Jeff and the wife :-). I've always been a fan of the pears with stone cells too.

I rank grit in sapodillas with mealy texture in  apples.  Neither is desirebale in my book. But hey....if grit does it for you or at least doesn't provide a turn off....you are going to be a lot happpier person in the world of sapodillas!

Harry

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangos with Dimples?
« on: March 22, 2012, 11:14:09 AM »
Both my Edward and Coco Cream are putting out dimpled mangos too. It's probably normal. They should smooth out by maturity.

So, my Cogshall is spitting out mangos for the first time.  She has about a dozen golf ball sized ones on the tree now.  I've noticed a few of the mangos have a dimpled appearance, not looking like any mango I've seen before.  Of course, I can't speak from experience since, as I said, this is my first run in with these babies.  A few of the mangos, a bit larger ones, do not have that dimpled exterior.
Am I imagining things?  Worrying over nothing?  A new and rare disease?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dear Sapodilla Wizards
« on: March 22, 2012, 11:12:24 AM »
I actually really like the gritty textured sap's myself. I'm not really sure who decided that stone cells are bad.

Brown Sugar is the first Sapodilla which I tried- it is also the sweetest- Excalibur has HUGE Brown sugar trees- in my humble opinion, it tastes better than my alano-I never noticed the brown sugar grit until i tried a fruit without it-

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anthracnose Resistance - Mango
« on: March 17, 2012, 10:15:27 PM »
That sounds about right. My carrie had neither powdery mildew nor anthracnose this year. Yet, it set a poorer crop than usual this year, which appears to be due to the cold snap that came while it was in full bloom :-(.

'Carrie' is the most fungus-resistant variety that I know.   I recently noticed another in a variety collection, that is called 'Ryan"--- very clean bloom, surrounded by trees eaten up with powdery mildew;  I don't know anything about the fruit.

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Nam doc mai is boss. You can either eat it fully ripe and super sweet or at various stages of underripeness for added tart.

I very much like SE Asian mangoes, especially Nam Doc Mai, Po Pyu Kalai, and Cambodiana.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: An Abiu Story
« on: March 16, 2012, 09:17:29 PM »
That boy is boss! I still remember when you planted that thing barely 2 years ago.

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You sure you're not thinking of a different mango? The ones I had (from Harry's yard) had a complex 'fruit punch' flavor with a bit of tart. They were phenomenal. My wife called them the "fruit punch mango" (in Spanish, of course :-). If I remember correctly they were one of the few mangoes that didn't have internal breakdown issues. Hopefully Harry labeled them right :-).

Some people are very fond of PPK. To me it is an NDM imitator....so a good mango but a little one-dimensional.

If you like NDM though you should like PPK.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: gibberellic acid for annona seeds
« on: March 16, 2012, 08:29:14 PM »
24hours @ 350ppm has worked phenomenally well for me; germination rates in the 90% range.

I certainly wouldn't go higher than 900, as that already sounds high to me.  To the best of my, admittedly vague, recollection, we tried 1,000ppm and 2,000ppm--- lower germination rate and seriously elongated, week distorted seedlings, which generally did not survive.  The original published rate that we tried was 350ppm.  That did work as did a little higher, probably 500-600ppm.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to order tropical fruit?
« on: March 14, 2012, 12:18:05 AM »
Not bad. Cherimoya is one of my favorite fruits, but I usually have to do without because they command some serious coin :-(.

Fresh direct has been selling cherimoyas for 3 to 4 dollars apiece.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pretty happy to see this
« on: March 13, 2012, 07:51:42 PM »
You're a frog! Mine is flushing new growth :-(.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Julie Mango in South Florida
« on: March 13, 2012, 11:40:36 AM »
I believe both water with city water, but I've never asked. In my neighborhood, the soil is practically lethal for ph-challenged trees. We have like 4 inches of soil on top of a foot or two of crushed up limestone rock which was excavated from the canals. The first owner of my property was a retired rare fruit enthusiast with nothing better to do than spending months digging out giant holes and replacing them with compost. So, there are a few spots in my yard where there is some decent soil. I've also added several hundred cubic yards of mulch, which has helped quite a bit. Combined with 3 to 4 applications of keyplex, most of my ph-sensitive trees do OK. Even with all that effort, my chlorotic carambola sometimes still gets mistaken for  'variegated' :-).

Jeff- Does the neighbor with the healthy julie tree use city water or well water to water his or her Julie tree, or does he or she let nature do the watering?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Julie Mango in South Florida
« on: March 13, 2012, 11:34:10 AM »
That black gunk is sooty mold, which is a symptom of a scale problem. Lancetilla tends to be more prone to get the sooty mold. The scale will feed out on tender new growth and the undersides of leaves. So, if you flip up a leaf, you'll likely see numerous white specks (aka soft scale). I've had a lot of people tell me they've had success controlling the scale with applications of water with a small amount of non-degreasing dishwashing detergent. (Be sure to select a detergent without added degreaser. I believe palmolive may work.) The recommended dose is like one teaspoon per gallon. You'd want to spray the undersides of the leaves once or twice a week until the problem disappears. Personally, I ignore the problem for my in-ground trees. The summer rain usually washes off the sooty mold, and it usually causes no detriment to the tree.

Amazing difference between the two trees, hard to believe they are the same variety and only 2 miles apart.

May I ask what the black film on some of the leaves that are on the first and second picture? I think I've had that same stuff on my Lancetilla...not sure if its the same? I had to spray mine with Neem oil and wipe the leaves...found a few scales on the back of the leaves, lucky my tree is very small so I was able to wipe clean the leaves...but once it gets that big No way you can reach it,lol... Regardless, that Julie didn't skip a beat even with some of those on the leaves...Just Amazing!

Thanks for posting Jeff!

Nancy

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Julie Mango in South Florida
« on: March 13, 2012, 11:23:16 AM »
He didn't say. He said that they are prone to magnesium (or was it manganese?) deficiency. My guess is that anything neutral would be fine, since it wouldn't readily bind with magnesium. Gary also mentioned that it's very hard to find a true chelated magnesium product, but that numerous treatments with a foliar chelated magnesium product can cure the deficiency. He said that even keyplex may not work.

Interesting Post Jeff.
So did Gary say what is the best PH of the soil to grow a Julie in? I'll have a couple spots sampled to see which spot to plant that Julie at.
Let me know when to come down for those grafted trees and a julie.

Thanks, Joe.

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