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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New Zill Mangos Info
« on: March 27, 2012, 01:12:13 PM »
That's pretty funny. That was one of my wife's favorite novelas "Betty la fea".
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That's a very strange set up for a sale. I don't think i would like that!
Oscar
Oscar, thanks for the advice on the loose soil to tell if it was newly potted. The setup was actually pretty good, we may not have done a good job of explaining it. It was well run after they got the "bugs" out of it. It was an area about the size of a NBA size basketball court. The plants were organized in four rows. Customers were given a map of where different species were located, so you could find trees. The potted plants had a price tag stapled to the pots. The back side of the tag said which nursery provided the plant. There were three or four cashiers where you could pay for purchases, using only cash or check. The tags were made, so that a portion would be torn off at the time of purchase, so the sellers could be paid, etc.
I went two times during the sale and had two totally different experiences. My first visit...I showed up around 15 minutes before it opened and there was a line of about 20 people ahead of me. By the time it opened, there were about 30 people behind me. When it opened, there was sort of a stampede. It was crowded, people were rushing to get what they wanted; it was a bit chaotic. There were no carts available, unless you brought your own. As a short cut, people would cut thru the rows of plants, sometimes trampling the plants a little. I asked a volunteer to help me, he helped me pick out a few plants, but then someone else lured him away. I put my plants in the holding area, where I went to get the rest of the things on my list. I bought five plants and a bag of fertilizer. At checkout, I paid with cash. The cashier (an elderly volunteer) "tested" the money with a black ball point pen and thought my money was counterfeit (it wasn't). Another volunteer politely pointed out that the cashier had used the wrong pen to test the money. In fairness, I was probably one of the first people to check out, so they had not worked all of the "bugs" out.
My second visiti...a friend wanted to go to the sale later in the day, so I went with her around noon. It was a different experience. It was no longer crowded. There were more volunteers than customers and volunteers would ask if they could help. Some volunteers had carts to transport plants. There were a lot less trees there, but you wouldn't have known except that I had been there earlier when there were a lot more. They were out of fertilizer. I bought one more plant, my friend bought two.
A new variety "Ugly Betty" is supposed to be released some time next year! It supposed to be an AWESOME mango with an extremely strong boquet!
Now that I'm really into this stuff I remember buying a Blackgold jackfruit from Robert is here and it being quite nice tasting and really big. Does anyone on here have experienced planting and growing Blackgold jackfruit in their yard. Does it grow well and fast and fruit heavy?
One again a disagreement with my hubbie- He says that mulch doesnt really make a difference to the health of a tree here in our sandy soil. any thoughts?
Both my Edward and Coco Cream are putting out dimpled mangos too. It's probably normal. They should smooth out by maturity....or, you are about to lose your cookies, er, mangoesSo, my Cogshall is spitting out mangos for the first time. She has about a dozen golf ball sized ones on the tree now. I've noticed a few of the mangos have a dimpled appearance, not looking like any mango I've seen before. Of course, I can't speak from experience since, as I said, this is my first run in with these babies. A few of the mangos, a bit larger ones, do not have that dimpled exterior.
Am I imagining things? Worrying over nothing? A new and rare disease?
I rank grit in sapodillas with mealy texture in apples. Neither is desirebale in my book. But hey....if grit does it for you or at least doesn't provide a turn off....you are going to be a lot happpier person in the world of sapodillas!
Harry
So, my Cogshall is spitting out mangos for the first time. She has about a dozen golf ball sized ones on the tree now. I've noticed a few of the mangos have a dimpled appearance, not looking like any mango I've seen before. Of course, I can't speak from experience since, as I said, this is my first run in with these babies. A few of the mangos, a bit larger ones, do not have that dimpled exterior.
Am I imagining things? Worrying over nothing? A new and rare disease?
Brown Sugar is the first Sapodilla which I tried- it is also the sweetest- Excalibur has HUGE Brown sugar trees- in my humble opinion, it tastes better than my alano-I never noticed the brown sugar grit until i tried a fruit without it-
'Carrie' is the most fungus-resistant variety that I know. I recently noticed another in a variety collection, that is called 'Ryan"--- very clean bloom, surrounded by trees eaten up with powdery mildew; I don't know anything about the fruit.
I very much like SE Asian mangoes, especially Nam Doc Mai, Po Pyu Kalai, and Cambodiana.
Some people are very fond of PPK. To me it is an NDM imitator....so a good mango but a little one-dimensional.
If you like NDM though you should like PPK.
I certainly wouldn't go higher than 900, as that already sounds high to me. To the best of my, admittedly vague, recollection, we tried 1,000ppm and 2,000ppm--- lower germination rate and seriously elongated, week distorted seedlings, which generally did not survive. The original published rate that we tried was 350ppm. That did work as did a little higher, probably 500-600ppm.
Fresh direct has been selling cherimoyas for 3 to 4 dollars apiece.
Jeff- Does the neighbor with the healthy julie tree use city water or well water to water his or her Julie tree, or does he or she let nature do the watering?
Amazing difference between the two trees, hard to believe they are the same variety and only 2 miles apart.
May I ask what the black film on some of the leaves that are on the first and second picture? I think I've had that same stuff on my Lancetilla...not sure if its the same? I had to spray mine with Neem oil and wipe the leaves...found a few scales on the back of the leaves, lucky my tree is very small so I was able to wipe clean the leaves...but once it gets that big No way you can reach it,lol... Regardless, that Julie didn't skip a beat even with some of those on the leaves...Just Amazing!
Thanks for posting Jeff!
Nancy
Interesting Post Jeff.
So did Gary say what is the best PH of the soil to grow a Julie in? I'll have a couple spots sampled to see which spot to plant that Julie at.
Let me know when to come down for those grafted trees and a julie.
Thanks, Joe.