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Title: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: natsgarden123 on June 06, 2012, 11:22:54 AM
We have been eating a whole lot of mangos over the past few weeks-different varieties -my husband said that he would enjoy a more fibrous mango- that he really likes that quality-

I would like to plant another tree:  What would be a suggested fibrous, but sweet,  for home garden planting?



Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: murahilin on June 06, 2012, 11:46:03 AM
What does he mean by fibrous? I haven't met many people who enjoy a fibrous mango over a non fibrous one for the main reason for the fibers getting stuck in your teeth. Maybe what he's describing as fibrous is not the same as what is generally considered fibrous.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: natsgarden123 on June 06, 2012, 11:49:37 AM
Firm isn't the description-he likes some fiber in it-go figure....
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 06, 2012, 12:20:35 PM
To be honest, most fibrous mangoes do not have the greatest of flavor.  Probably the best would be the Peach Turpentine (which actually hase really good flazvor) though not sure where to purchase one.  Madame Frances - blech flavor wise; East Indian - blech flavor wise; Tommy Atkins - do I really need to comment ? 
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: HMHausman on June 06, 2012, 12:51:40 PM
To be honest, most fibrous mangoes do not have the greatest of flavor.  Probably the best would be the Peach Turpentine (which actually hase really good flazvor) though not sure where to purchase one.  Madame Frances - blech flavor wise; East Indian - blech flavor wise; Tommy Atkins - do I really need to comment ?

Actually, I have to disagree.  There are many fibrous mangoes that have great flavor.  I heard Gary Zill and Maurice Kong argue that the best flavor, most intense mango taste came from the lower portion of a fully ripened East Indian Mango.  Not the upper portion mind you....just the lower portion....LOL. Anyway, I have a seedling tree that I planted from a Mallika seed which came from a Mallika mango I had at Four Fillies Farm back when Crafton Clift was working there.  The tree has about 7 or 8 years of fruiting and is very different than its parent, Mallika.  It has lots of fiber, but also has the most intensely pleasant mango flavor that I have encountered.  For those that can't do fiber, you won't be happy with this fruit.  But for those that can tolerate some fiber if the flavor is really good, this could be for you.  I have served it on many a tasting table and it always gets a "Wow, what an intense flavor!"  Of course I have no trees propagated......just in case you are going to ask.  But I have had requests for budwood.  This year, like its parent Mallika, the crop is very, very light.

Harry
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 06, 2012, 12:56:38 PM
To be honest, most fibrous mangoes do not have the greatest of flavor.  Probably the best would be the Peach Turpentine (which actually hase really good flazvor) though not sure where to purchase one.  Madame Frances - blech flavor wise; East Indian - blech flavor wise; Tommy Atkins - do I really need to comment ?

Actually, I have to disagree.  There are many fibrous mangoes that have great flavor.  I heard Gary Zill and Maurice Kong argue that the best flavor, most intense mango taste came from the lower portion of a fully ripened East Indian Mango.  Not the upper portion mind you....just the lower portion....LOL. Anyway, I have a seedling tree that I planted from a Mallika seed which came from a Mallika mango I had at Four Fillies Farm back when Crafton Clift was working there.  The tree has about 7 or 8 years of fruiting and is very different than its parent, Mallika.  It has lots of fiber, but also has the most intensely pleasant mango flavor that I have encountered.  For those that can't do fiber, you won't be happy with this fruit.  But for those that can tolerate some fiber if the flavor is really good, this could be for you.  I have served it on many a tasting table and it always gets a "Wow, what an intense flavor!"  Of course I have no trees propagated......just in case you are going to ask.  But I have had requests for budwood.  This year, like its parent Mallika, the crop is very, very light.

Harry
I am not arguing about your Mallika seedling but as you said, it is not a "variety" of mango and not avaiable either.  I am sure that you could find other seedlings with fiber and good flavor however i was just referring to available varieties.  With that being said, I have TRIED to eat an East Indian, well, not eat but to use the juice, and I did not find anything about it any good.  There is a new Zills variety called Lady's Choce which is supposed to be an improved East Indian but I have not tried it...nor do I think I want to based on its parentage.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: natsgarden123 on June 06, 2012, 01:06:04 PM
To be honest, most fibrous mangoes do not have the greatest of flavor.  Probably the best would be the Peach Turpentine (which actually hase really good flazvor) though not sure where to purchase one.  Madame Frances - blech flavor wise; East Indian - blech flavor wise; Tommy Atkins - do I really need to comment ?

Actually, I have to disagree.  There are many fibrous mangoes that have great flavor.  I heard Gary Zill and Maurice Kong argue that the best flavor, most intense mango taste came from the lower portion of a fully ripened East Indian Mango.  Not the upper portion mind you....just the lower portion....LOL. Anyway, I have a seedling tree that I planted from a Mallika seed which came from a Mallika mango I had at Four Fillies Farm back when Crafton Clift was working there.  The tree has about 7 or 8 years of fruiting and is very different than its parent, Mallika.  It has lots of fiber, but also has the most intensely pleasant mango flavor that I have encountered.  For those that can't do fiber, you won't be happy with this fruit.  But for those that can tolerate some fiber if the flavor is really good, this could be for you.  I have served it on many a tasting table and it always gets a "Wow, what an intense flavor!"  Of course I have no trees propagated......just in case you are going to ask.  But I have had requests for budwood.  This year, like its parent Mallika, the crop is very, very light.

Harry

I would love to get that mango..I have never grafted..
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 06, 2012, 01:18:17 PM
To be honest, most fibrous mangoes do not have the greatest of flavor.  Probably the best would be the Peach Turpentine (which actually hase really good flazvor) though not sure where to purchase one.  Madame Frances - blech flavor wise; East Indian - blech flavor wise; Tommy Atkins - do I really need to comment ?

Actually, I have to disagree.  There are many fibrous mangoes that have great flavor.  I heard Gary Zill and Maurice Kong argue that the best flavor, most intense mango taste came from the lower portion of a fully ripened East Indian Mango.  Not the upper portion mind you....just the lower portion....LOL. Anyway, I have a seedling tree that I planted from a Mallika seed which came from a Mallika mango I had at Four Fillies Farm back when Crafton Clift was working there.  The tree has about 7 or 8 years of fruiting and is very different than its parent, Mallika.  It has lots of fiber, but also has the most intensely pleasant mango flavor that I have encountered.  For those that can't do fiber, you won't be happy with this fruit.  But for those that can tolerate some fiber if the flavor is really good, this could be for you.  I have served it on many a tasting table and it always gets a "Wow, what an intense flavor!"  Of course I have no trees propagated......just in case you are going to ask.  But I have had requests for budwood.  This year, like its parent Mallika, the crop is very, very light.

Harry

I would love to get that mango..I have never grafted..
While I love the actual Mallika (one of my favorites year in and year out), deopending on location it is not known for bring the best producer.  I know this is a seedling but it is still of Mallika parentage.  I only say this as Harry says his crops of the grafted and seedling are very light and I know a couple of people who ripped out their Mallikas as they were no consistent producers...sometimes produced no fruit at all.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: natsgarden123 on June 06, 2012, 01:25:22 PM
To be honest, most fibrous mangoes do not have the greatest of flavor.  Probably the best would be the Peach Turpentine (which actually hase really good flazvor) though not sure where to purchase one.  Madame Frances - blech flavor wise; East Indian - blech flavor wise; Tommy Atkins - do I really need to comment ?

Actually, I have to disagree.  There are many fibrous mangoes that have great flavor.  I heard Gary Zill and Maurice Kong argue that the best flavor, most intense mango taste came from the lower portion of a fully ripened East Indian Mango.  Not the upper portion mind you....just the lower portion....LOL. Anyway, I have a seedling tree that I planted from a Mallika seed which came from a Mallika mango I had at Four Fillies Farm back when Crafton Clift was working there.  The tree has about 7 or 8 years of fruiting and is very different than its parent, Mallika.  It has lots of fiber, but also has the most intensely pleasant mango flavor that I have encountered.  For those that can't do fiber, you won't be happy with this fruit.  But for those that can tolerate some fiber if the flavor is really good, this could be for you.  I have served it on many a tasting table and it always gets a "Wow, what an intense flavor!"  Of course I have no trees propagated......just in case you are going to ask.  But I have had requests for budwood.  This year, like its parent Mallika, the crop is very, very light.

Harry

I would love to get that mango..I have never grafted..
While I love the actual Mallika (one of my favorites year in and year out), deopending on location it is not known for bring the best producer.  I know this is a seedling but it is still of Mallika parentage.  I only say this as Harry says his crops of the grafted and seedling are very light and I know a couple of people who ripped out their Mallikas as they were no consistent producers...sometimes produced no fruit at all.

I love the taste of mallika- Coincidentally- my little mallika tree put out a whole lot of little fruits-I cut them all off ( more fruit than tree)- I hope the tree produces like that when it grows up :)

Back to the fibrous mango- would be really cool to have a novel variety
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: Cookie Monster on June 06, 2012, 01:54:28 PM
I think Harry is right here. I've had some fibrous mangoes (random seedlings) that have been very flavorful. And while the madame francis from the store is GROSS, my wife actually prefers a tree ripened MF over the carrie. I was also pleasantly surprised with the tree ripened MF but can't deal with the fibers stuck in the teeth.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: Central Floridave on June 06, 2012, 02:01:06 PM
Valencia Pride is a very good tasting mango with some fiber (relative to the fiber free ones) that I would recommend.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 06, 2012, 02:03:55 PM
I think Harry is right here. I've had some fibrous mangoes (random seedlings) that have been very flavorful. And while the madame francis from the store is GROSS, my wife actually prefers a tree ripened MF over the carrie. I was also pleasantly surprised with the tree ripened MF but can't deal with the fibers stuck in the teeth.
Unless one is grafting from a know seedling, I don't see how it is relavent here as Nat is looking to "purchase" a tree to plant in her yard.

As for MF, I tried them last year...they smelled good, looked good BUT...well, this is why tastes are so subjective.  While it was better than a TA, I have not much more good things to say about it.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: Cookie Monster on June 06, 2012, 02:16:59 PM
hehe The best way to satisfy the husband -- chuck a seed from a good mango in the ground and let it grow! Odds are that it will be fibrous.

I think Harry is right here. I've had some fibrous mangoes (random seedlings) that have been very flavorful. And while the madame francis from the store is GROSS, my wife actually prefers a tree ripened MF over the carrie. I was also pleasantly surprised with the tree ripened MF but can't deal with the fibers stuck in the teeth.
Unless one is grafting from a know seedling, I don't see how it is relavent here as Nat is looking to "purchase" a tree to plant in her yard.

As for MF, I tried them last year...they smelled good, looked good BUT...well, this is why tastes are so subjective.  While it was better than a TA, I have not much more good things to say about it.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: Cookie Monster on June 06, 2012, 02:21:43 PM
PS Mrs Nat -- Don't fret if the husband isn't into the mangoes and gardening quite yet. In a healthy marriage, spousal interests are quite contagious! I spent the first few years chiding my wife for planting things everywhere... until somewhere along the line I caught on and joined in on the fun :-).
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 06, 2012, 02:22:50 PM
hehe The best way to satisfy the husband -- chuck a seed from a good mango in the ground and let it grow! Odds are that it will be fibrous.

I think Harry is right here. I've had some fibrous mangoes (random seedlings) that have been very flavorful. And while the madame francis from the store is GROSS, my wife actually prefers a tree ripened MF over the carrie. I was also pleasantly surprised with the tree ripened MF but can't deal with the fibers stuck in the teeth.
Unless one is grafting from a know seedling, I don't see how it is relavent here as Nat is looking to "purchase" a tree to plant in her yard.

As for MF, I tried them last year...they smelled good, looked good BUT...well, this is why tastes are so subjective.  While it was better than a TA, I have not much more good things to say about it.
And watch it turn out to be the next Coco Cream or Lemon Zest...with NO fiber   :o :o :P ;D ;D
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: natsgarden123 on June 06, 2012, 02:37:07 PM
My husband is not going to catch on to this....unfortunately- BUT, he tolerates my interests.  And he certainly enjoys the fruits and vegetables   We cant all be the same....

My delicious seedling, a mangos to triumph over all other mangos, would be named after him....."Master Kelly's Mango"  :)
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: zands on June 06, 2012, 03:29:13 PM
We have the huge Swap Shop flea market in Broward. I went there 2010 and there were vendors with all kinds of backyard mangoes. Some were small and fibrous and other were juicy of known varieties plus juicy seedling mangoes. Maybe you have a market up in PBC where you can find the same to at least buy. My folks had a grafted mango tree that got frozen to the root stock. Probably in 1988 freeze. A few years after, the root stock started putting forth small yellow fibrous mangoes that tasted great. You could phone Excalibur and ask if you can buy a few failed grafts. You could then plant the rootstock. Excalibur would know what kind of fibrous(?) mangoes their rootstock produces

Maybe they would even be willing to graft a fibrous backyard mango they know onto root stock or graft a root stock scion onto root stock
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: fruitlovers on June 06, 2012, 06:31:09 PM
I haven't tasted it but seems like Madame Francis would be the mango of choice for someone that likes fibrous mango. Apparently it has quite a good strong taste when tree ripened. I also disagree with Rob that fibrous mangos don't taste good. Here we have tons of trees growing wild, all super fibrous, but with very good taste. Usually the fruits are quite small. But great to eat when you are hiking and need a delicious energy boost. Just don't forget to pack a container of dental floss!  :)
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 06, 2012, 06:38:06 PM
I haven't tasted it but seems like Madame Francis would be the mango of choice for someone that likes fibrous mango. Apparently it has quite a good strong taste when tree ripened. I also disagree with Rob that fibrous mangos don't taste good. Here we have tons of trees growing wild, all super fibrous, but with very good taste. Usually the fruits are quite small. But great to eat when you are hiking and need a delicious energy boost. Just don't forget to pack a container of dental floss!  :)
Again, you are missing what I have been saying.  I am not talking about wild, or mangoes grown from seed (as this is not something she can purchase...as Jeff said, she would have to eat a variety of choice and then chuck on the ground and HOPE that it turns out fibrous).  Nat was looking for a mango tree to purchase.  This limits her to available named varieties.  I was commenting on the locally available named varieties.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: fruitlovers on June 06, 2012, 06:54:07 PM
I haven't tasted it but seems like Madame Francis would be the mango of choice for someone that likes fibrous mango. Apparently it has quite a good strong taste when tree ripened. I also disagree with Rob that fibrous mangos don't taste good. Here we have tons of trees growing wild, all super fibrous, but with very good taste. Usually the fruits are quite small. But great to eat when you are hiking and need a delicious energy boost. Just don't forget to pack a container of dental floss!  :)
Again, you are missing what I have been saying.  I am not talking about wild, or mangoes grown from seed (as this is not something she can purchase...as Jeff said, she would have to eat a variety of choice and then chuck on the ground and HOPE that it turns out fibrous).  Nat was looking for a mango tree to purchase.  This limits her to available named varieties.  I was commenting on the locally available named varieties.

I don't think i missed anything you said. I think Madame Francis is avaialable for purchase there? And that is the one i recommended she purchase. I think people raised on fibrous mangos have that engrained in their childhood memories and maybe even enjoy having fiber stuck in their teeth? LOL  I just went on to add that i enjoy fibrous mangos myself, when nothing else is around.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: SWRancher on June 06, 2012, 06:55:55 PM
To be honest, most fibrous mangoes do not have the greatest of flavor.  Probably the best would be the Peach Turpentine (which actually hase really good flazvor) though not sure where to purchase one.  Madame Frances - blech flavor wise; East Indian - blech flavor wise; Tommy Atkins - do I really need to comment ?

Actually, I have to disagree.  There are many fibrous mangoes that have great flavor.  I heard Gary Zill and Maurice Kong argue that the best flavor, most intense mango taste came from the lower portion of a fully ripened East Indian Mango.  Not the upper portion mind you....just the lower portion....LOL. Anyway, I have a seedling tree that I planted from a Mallika seed which came from a Mallika mango I had at Four Fillies Farm back when Crafton Clift was working there.  The tree has about 7 or 8 years of fruiting and is very different than its parent, Mallika.  It has lots of fiber, but also has the most intensely pleasant mango flavor that I have encountered.  For those that can't do fiber, you won't be happy with this fruit.  But for those that can tolerate some fiber if the flavor is really good, this could be for you.  I have served it on many a tasting table and it always gets a "Wow, what an intense flavor!"  Of course I have no trees propagated......just in case you are going to ask.  But I have had requests for budwood.  This year, like its parent Mallika, the crop is very, very light.

Harry

I'm actually one of those who have requested budwood from this tree. Its an outstanding flavored mango, the flesh is on the firmer side with some fiber throughout. It would be better without the fiber but its an excellent tasting mango thats well worth any post dining toothpick time. 

Tony
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: BMc on June 06, 2012, 07:21:29 PM
What does he mean by fibrous? I haven't met many people who enjoy a fibrous mango over a non fibrous one for the main reason for the fibers getting stuck in your teeth. Maybe what he's describing as fibrous is not the same as what is generally considered fibrous.

Perhaps he enjoys reliving the mango hours after he's eaten it, as he picks the fibres from between the teeth?
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: Sleepdoc on June 06, 2012, 08:37:05 PM
I also would say Madame Francis for an available cultivar, and Harry's Mallika Seedling if you want to do the grafting.  I tried the HMS (Harrys Mallika Seedling) last year, and it was indeed outstanding in flavor.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: LarryG on June 06, 2012, 11:41:54 PM
We have been eating a whole lot of mangos over the past few weeks-different varieties -my husband said that he would enjoy a more fibrous mango- that he really likes that quality-

I would like to plant another tree:  What would be a suggested fibrous, but sweet,  for home garden planting?


My favorite fibrous mango is the Southern Blush. I first tasted it at the Truly Tropical mango stand in Delray Beach and bought a tree soon thereafter. Since you are in West Palm Beach you might want to drive to Delray and give it a try when they ripen. I think you'll like it.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: Squam256 on June 06, 2012, 11:46:26 PM
If a mango like Southern Blush can be included on the 'fibrous' list then that really opens the doors to a lot of varieties.

I like Madam Francis by the way and find the fiber tolerable.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: fruitlovers on June 06, 2012, 11:55:51 PM
Haden also has some fiber so maybe could be included on this list?
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: natsgarden123 on June 07, 2012, 09:02:27 AM
Does anyone know where I can taste a madame francis mango? Or a southern blush , for that matter?


Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: Tim on June 07, 2012, 10:12:13 AM
I'm with squam on this, I don't remember Southern Blush having this issue.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: natsgarden123 on June 07, 2012, 10:46:46 AM
I would imagine that someone is selling Haden locally- Haden does have some fiber-Since my husband lived here his whole life, maybe its Haden that he likes.

I know that people talk about the tree as having a lot of disease problems- I grew one- and the tree never experienced any issues- I have passed by the house ( long sold) and the tree is still there-now 15 years old and very large- it still looks healthy.
With that said,  the future one might have all kinds of issues.

If anyone here is selling Haden-please let me know :)
thanks

Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 07, 2012, 11:02:25 AM
I would imagine that someone is selling Haden locally- Haden does have some fiber-Since my husband lived here his whole life, maybe its Haden that he likes.

I know that people talk about the tree as having a lot of disease problems- I grew one- and the tree never experienced any issues- I have passed by the house ( long sold) and the tree is still there-now 15 years old and very large- it still looks healthy.
With that said,  the future one might have all kinds of issues.

If anyone here is selling Haden-please let me know :)
thanks
Van Dyke is very similar to Haden, and I actually like that one better.

Excalibur will have Haden fruit soon (not quite ready yet) and of course, they have the trees.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 07, 2012, 11:03:14 AM
Does anyone know where I can taste a madame francis mango? Or a southern blush , for that matter?
Excalibur should have some fruit at some point, as should Zills.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: natsgarden123 on June 07, 2012, 11:10:11 AM
Thanks Rob-let me know  :)
would like to try Van Dyke also
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: zands on June 07, 2012, 11:30:28 AM
I would imagine that someone is selling Haden locally- Haden does have some fiber-Since my husband lived here his whole life, maybe its Haden that he likes.

I know that people talk about the tree as having a lot of disease problems- I grew one- and the tree never experienced any issues- I have passed by the house ( long sold) and the tree is still there-now 15 years old and very large- it still looks healthy.
With that said,  the future one might have all kinds of issues.

If anyone here is selling Haden-please let me know :)
thanks
Van Dyke is very similar to Haden, and I actually like that one better.

Excalibur will have Haden fruit soon (not quite ready yet) and of course, they have the trees.

I have Haden and Van Dyke. Van Dyke fruit is smaller, redder and prettier so makes better looking tree when fruit is on it. I like Haden taste so I should like Van Dyke. Here is one that fell off when I nudged it. It had better ripen up. Van Dyke must be more fibrous than Haden due to being smaller with higher seed to flesh ratio. My Haden is my largest tree and produces each year. I am glad I got it in 7 gallon size at Spykes nursery in 2008 because today it is that much larger. If you are starting your mini-mango grove one should get a mix of 3, 7 and 15 gallon so you will get some fruits sooner

Ruler says 4" long
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Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: MarinFla on June 07, 2012, 11:34:41 AM
PS Mrs Nat -- Don't fret if the husband isn't into the mangoes and gardening quite yet. In a healthy marriage, spousal interests are quite contagious! I spent the first few years chiding my wife for planting things everywhere... until somewhere along the line I caught on and joined in on the fun :-).

Oh Jeff if that could only be true across the board!! My husband doesn't eat mangoes or any fruit for that matter...(other than green apples or some bananas in his protein shakes). He breaks my coconuts about the smell of the jackfruit 'stinking up the house' but he will help me in the yard on an occasion if I make a fat bottom lip at him and act helpless, otherwise he just watches me disappear into the yard. At least he doesn't complain anymore that my plants are more important to me than him LOL. But he is an awesome guy in every other way. It has been a desensitizing process and he is getting so much more tolerant of my love for growing tropical fruit. But him being "enthusiastic" with me at any level is about as remote as me hitting Powerball!! I can only remain hopeful for both :)
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 07, 2012, 11:39:40 AM
PS Mrs Nat -- Don't fret if the husband isn't into the mangoes and gardening quite yet. In a healthy marriage, spousal interests are quite contagious! I spent the first few years chiding my wife for planting things everywhere... until somewhere along the line I caught on and joined in on the fun :-).

Oh Jeff it that could only be true across the board!! My husband doesn't eat mangoes or any fruit for that matter...(other than green apples or some bananas in his protein shakes). He breaks my coconuts about the smell of the jackfruit 'stinking up the house' but he will help me in the yard on an occasion if I make a fat bottom lip at him and act helpless, otherwise he just watches me disappear into the yard. At least he doesn't complain anymore that my plants are more important to me than him LOL. But he is an awesome guy in every other way. It has been a desensitizing process and he is getting so much more tolerant of my love for growing tropical fruit. But him being "enthusiastic" with me at any level is about as remote as me hitting Powerball!! I can only remain hopeful for both :)
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Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: MangoMan2 on June 07, 2012, 11:56:27 AM
After reading the whole post, I was surprised that Springsfel was not mentioned. A tree ripe springsfel is excellent, and great for Jam making.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: puglvr1 on June 07, 2012, 12:07:06 PM
I'm with you on this one Marin!! My dear hubby who is also great in SO many ways will never share my passion for growing fruit trees, gardening or anything related to plants...the only difference is he does like Mangoes and really enjoys eating them (almost as much as me). He doesn't like Jackfruit or lyches. To be perfectly honest, I don't mind at all..(More for me,lol...) Like you he does help me with planting trees or getting ready for a freeze...but other than that he pretty much leaves me to my "obsession"  ;)

Natalie...I'm sure you can totally relate as well...

Some spouses just cannot be converted  :(
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 07, 2012, 12:12:54 PM
After reading the whole post, I was surprised that Springsfel was not mentioned. A tree ripe springsfel is excellent, and great for Jam making.
Springfels taste =  :( :-[ :'(
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: natsgarden123 on June 07, 2012, 01:16:10 PM
It seems like it's us women who have issues with spouses. I haven't heard of it the other way around. We tolerate the men's likes such as motorcycles, atvs and jetskis..just an observation. I do usually get my way.. :)

Back to the subject.  I have never tasted a van dyke and I look forward to trying it.  If not to my liking, then Haden is a definite contender.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 07, 2012, 02:08:19 PM
It seems like it's us women who have issues with spouses. I haven't heard of it the other way around. We tolerate the men's likes such as motorcycles, atvs and jetskis..just an observation. I do usually get my way.. :)

Back to the subject.  I have never tasted a van dyke and I look forward to trying it.  If not to my liking, then Haden is a definite contender.
To be honest, while MF and EI are totally objectionable taste wise and fiber wise, Haden is actuall a very doo mango.  It just gets a bad reputation since it has been the "old timer" on the list.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: Sleepdoc on June 07, 2012, 02:09:35 PM
It seems like it's us women who have issues with spouses. I haven't heard of it the other way around.

I have it the other way around.... :(
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: Tropicalgrower89 on June 07, 2012, 02:15:34 PM
It seems like it's us women who have issues with spouses. I haven't heard of it the other way around. We tolerate the men's likes such as motorcycles, atvs and jetskis..just an observation. I do usually get my way.. :)

Back to the subject.  I have never tasted a van dyke and I look forward to trying it.  If not to my liking, then Haden is a definite contender.
To be honest, while MF and EI are totally objectionable taste wise and fiber wise, Haden is actuall a very doo mango.  It just gets a bad reputation since it has been the "old timer" on the list.

Haden is a good mango. :) Sometimes my old haden mangoes had little fiber, and other times it was more fibrous due to the weather.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: MangoMan2 on June 07, 2012, 02:28:13 PM
After reading the whole post, I was surprised that Springsfel was not mentioned. A tree ripe springsfel is excellent, and great for Jam making.
Springfels taste =  :( :-[ :'(

BsBullie,

You are about the thrid person here on the forum from down south that has disliked Springsfels. I wonder if it has something to do with the soil or weather?
The Springsfels up here on Merritt Island are sweet and have a pineapple taste to them. Almost like a Golden Lippens, But With Fiber.
Do you know where I might find a Golden lippens, Mine was killed from a freze we had.

Joe.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 07, 2012, 02:42:23 PM
After reading the whole post, I was surprised that Springsfel was not mentioned. A tree ripe springsfel is excellent, and great for Jam making.
Springfels taste =  :( :-[ :'(

BsBullie,

You are about the thrid person here on the forum from down south that has disliked Springsfels. I wonder if it has something to do with the soil or weather?
The Springsfels up here on Merritt Island are sweet and have a pineapple taste to them. Almost like a Golden Lippens, But With Fiber.
Do you know where I might find a Golden lippens, Mine was killed from a freze we had.

Joe.
You may be right.  While I notice the pineapple like nuance the overall taste to me is poor (others I know feel the same) and the fiber makes it that much worse.  I have tried to saw through it (as it is not only fibrous but somewhat dense) and like it but no dice.

Are you looking for a Golden Lippens tree/plant ?  If so, any specific size ?  PM me your number and I will give you a call if I locate it.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: HMHausman on June 07, 2012, 02:54:53 PM
I'm growing all of the mangoes listed in this thread.  All of them have their respective plusses and minuses.  Springfels has a nice flavor to me.  Its not in my top tier regarding flavor, but it certainly doesn't taste"bad"  to me anyway. I get a citrussy/pineapple sort of flavor.  There is some fiber, but not any more than its parent Haden.  The fruits are very large and meaty.  They are really great fior dehydration.  I would say Golden Lippens is better, but not by all that much. except on the fiber front

Harry
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 07, 2012, 02:58:40 PM
I'm growing all of the mangoes listed in this thread.  All of them have their respective plusses and minuses.  Springfels has a nice flavor to me.  Its not in my top tier regarding flavor, but it certainly doesn't taste"bad"  to me anyway. I get a citrussy/pineapple sort of flavor.  There is some fiber, but not any more than its parent Haden.  The fruits are very large and meaty.  They are really great fior dehydration.  I would say Golden Lippens is better, but not by all that much. except on the fiber front

Harry
That is odd since the Springfels I have tried had much more fiber than a Haden.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: fruitlovers on June 07, 2012, 06:44:58 PM
It seems like it's us women who have issues with spouses. I haven't heard of it the other way around.

I have it the other way around.... :(

I would guess that there are lots more guys that have spouses that are not into fruit growing than vice versa. A vast majority of my clientele are males, so i would think this is a bigger problem for males. You just don't hear about it as much as guys rather talk about sports, women rather talk about their relationships.  ::) I get a lot of kidding from my wife about my passion for gardening. She doesn't like to do any of the garden work, but she always shows up right around harvest time!  ???
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: Squam256 on June 07, 2012, 09:45:14 PM
I would imagine that someone is selling Haden locally- Haden does have some fiber-Since my husband lived here his whole life, maybe its Haden that he likes.

I know that people talk about the tree as having a lot of disease problems- I grew one- and the tree never experienced any issues- I have passed by the house ( long sold) and the tree is still there-now 15 years old and very large- it still looks healthy.
With that said,  the future one might have all kinds of issues.

If anyone here is selling Haden-please let me know :)
thanks

I've got Haden.
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 08, 2012, 01:01:39 AM
I would imagine that someone is selling Haden locally- Haden does have some fiber-Since my husband lived here his whole life, maybe its Haden that he likes.

I know that people talk about the tree as having a lot of disease problems- I grew one- and the tree never experienced any issues- I have passed by the house ( long sold) and the tree is still there-now 15 years old and very large- it still looks healthy.
With that said,  the future one might have all kinds of issues.

If anyone here is selling Haden-please let me know :)
thanks

I've got Haden.
Excalibur has a load of Haden...
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: zands on June 08, 2012, 10:41:33 AM
I would imagine that someone is selling Haden locally- Haden does have some fiber-Since my husband lived here his whole life, maybe its Haden that he likes.

I know that people talk about the tree as having a lot of disease problems- I grew one- and the tree never experienced any issues- I have passed by the house ( long sold) and the tree is still there-now 15 years old and very large- it still looks healthy.
With that said,  the future one might have all kinds of issues.

If anyone here is selling Haden-please let me know :)
thanks

I've got Haden.
Excalibur has a load of Haden...

First Haden fell off my tree yesterday (one week earlier than last year) but most on the tree look 2 weeks away. One that fell off has some yellow coloration unlike those still hanging on for dear life
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: puglvr1 on June 08, 2012, 10:58:35 AM
I have it the other way around.... :(

Sleepdoc, glad to hear it happens the other way around as well...

Posted by: fruitlovers
« on: June 07, 2012, 06:44:58 PM » Insert Quote

"I would guess that there are lots more guys that have spouses that are not into fruit growing than vice versa. A vast majority of my clientele are males, so i would think this is a bigger problem for males. You just don't hear about it as much as guys rather talk about sports, women rather talk about their relationships.   I get a lot of kidding from my wife about my passion for gardening. She doesn't like to do any of the garden work, but she always shows up right around harvest time! "

Oscar...You might be right!
Title: Re: Suggested Fibrous Mango
Post by: bsbullie on June 08, 2012, 12:23:29 PM
I would imagine that someone is selling Haden locally- Haden does have some fiber-Since my husband lived here his whole life, maybe its Haden that he likes.

I know that people talk about the tree as having a lot of disease problems- I grew one- and the tree never experienced any issues- I have passed by the house ( long sold) and the tree is still there-now 15 years old and very large- it still looks healthy.
With that said,  the future one might have all kinds of issues.

If anyone here is selling Haden-please let me know :)
thanks

I've got Haden.
Excalibur has a load of Haden...

First Haden fell off my tree yesterday (one week earlier than last year) but most on the tree look 2 weeks away. One that fell off has some yellow coloration unlike those still hanging on for dear life
These are colored up pretty well with the classic red/yellow coloration.  Flavor is pretty goo, too.