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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spondias fruit question
« on: July 10, 2016, 12:43:13 PM »
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spondias fruit question
« on: July 10, 2016, 12:34:59 PM »
It looks like theyre the red! Theyre good tasting sweet and sour.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Avocado Choice For SW Florida
« on: June 19, 2016, 10:37:32 AM »
I understand avocado should have an opposite flower type pollinator to achieve good fruit production. Simmonds/Miguel is recommended and I believe your friend Carlos noted good results with Catalina/Monroe. My trees are too small for fruit (1 to 2 years old) but I planted the in those combinations
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spondias fruit question
« on: June 19, 2016, 10:09:14 AM »
Yes! That handful was picked green and it took more than a week for the one to turn yellow. None of the ones on the tree are showing any signs of ripeness yet. A second Spondias tree that I cut down a few weeks ago and had partially buried the sections looks like it is starting to grow back already. A third one I ended up simply laying the cut branches down on a pile on top of the ground a month ago is still holding its fruit !
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spondias fruit question
« on: June 17, 2016, 10:10:18 AM »
Still no sign of them ripening on the tree however! I'll be looking forward to Aug./Sept.. I wonder if they'll taste like little tiny papayas!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spondias fruit question
« on: June 17, 2016, 10:05:29 AM »
That's for sure! it seems they've been on the tree for a long time without rioening tho so I was beginning to wonder. It looks line they are the yellow...
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spondias fruit question
« on: June 10, 2016, 09:29:34 PM »
Here are some a pulled of the tree a few days ago to see if they'd ripen
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spondias fruit question
« on: June 10, 2016, 09:25:34 PM »
Thanks that's good to know! I want to move this tree but I don't want to do this until after I get a chance to try the fruit. I hear that it takes very easily from cutting and so I plan to cut it down and bury part of the trunk near a back corner of my lot.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Spondias fruit question
« on: June 10, 2016, 10:40:24 AM »
Ciruela is what I've heard it called. It's spanish for plum. These are still green and hard and they've been on the tree since early spring.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Spondias fruit question
« on: June 10, 2016, 09:44:10 AM »
It seems that I've had green fruit on a Spondias (ciruela) tree for months not sure if it the yellow or the red and they have shown no sign of ripening. Does anyone know how long it could be before they begin to? I heard that the birds love them and when they do ripen they will not last long on the tree.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black Sapote Review (VIDEO)
« on: April 19, 2016, 08:49:19 PM »
I just planted one a couple of weeks ago. Is Wilson good?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Cold Hardy Mango exist?
« on: August 31, 2015, 06:24:07 PM »Wgphil- since you are relatively close to me, what do you do to keep your mangos warm? I have a graham in a pot right now and I am considering putting it into the ground as it is almost too big to move at this point. I was thinking come winter to mound mulch up the trunk and get natural warmth that way. Throw on a blanket and my guess is that would be enough with the mild winters we have been having.I have some unwanted trees growing on my property. I've been planting my mangos on the south side of these. Eventually I'll cut them down once my mangos have grown enough. I had some success last winter planting them like this. If you have any plant that you want to remove someday you can try this.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Cold Hardy Mango exist?
« on: August 30, 2015, 03:33:19 PM »How do you kno that nature hasn't been selecting for 100s of years already? It maybe a long shot but it's not an impossible dream.If a person planted 100 Mango seeds, is it possible that some of the seedling trees would be more cold tolerant and/or disease resistant than others?
Very unlikely....where are the lab results? Natural selection takes a long time you are not going to get results in 20 years with a small batch of seedlings
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Cold Hardy Mango exist?
« on: August 29, 2015, 12:16:07 PM »What do you think?
Personally i have been surprised so many times by something completly unexpected, that i have learn to avoid telling something is completly impossible. Also, i don't think that mangoes have ever been breed for frost resistance (correct me if i'm wrong). So i put everything in the realm of the possibilities. My concerns are just two fold;
1) Did the mango in the USA have a genetical base wide enough to have some frost tolerance genes in them? I'm assuming they have been breed using mainly DNA from the USA.
2) What does means 20F? Whas the temperature measured for the city, ot the temperature registered at the canopy? Was the temperature at ground level? How long it lasted? For example, I have a small seedling of Gomera-3. If i put it in the freezer at 0F for 15 seconds it won't get any damage. Can we say that it did survive 0F? The most important thing when we speak about killing temperatures for any plant isn't the temperature by itself but also how it was experienced by the plant.
Just my two cents. That said, i respect the work of anyone involved in breeding even more because it's something i probably wouldn't be able to do.
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Excellent on all points !!!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Cold Hardy Mango exist?
« on: August 22, 2015, 07:16:46 AM »
That's amazing and inspiring
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Cold Hardy Mango exist?
« on: August 21, 2015, 07:56:39 PM »
Omg that's a mango!!!! No way!!
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: KP Mangoes from Australia keep finding new markets
« on: August 20, 2015, 09:44:53 PM »
Hey Mike, I've read that KP dosent fall under either the Indian or SE Asian types. Do you know what is different about it?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Cold Hardy Mango exist?
« on: August 20, 2015, 02:23:17 PM »I am doing just that. I have 2-yr seedlings of Coconut Cream, Lemon Zest, and Fruit Punch. My plan is to graft half of these seedling branches with true parent wood and leave rest of the half to become adult and fruit at some point. this way if in 5 plus years I get crappy fruit, I wouldn't have wasted my time as I would have the tree also hold true parents that also grew in 5-years. Its worth every bit to try seedlings to fruit. this is the only way to get new top tier varieties slowly.That's a smart way to do it. I have 3 trees from seed and I was planing on top working them if they ever produce bad fruit. If anyone ever gets a truly cold tolerant tree no matter how bad it tasted that would be a special tree.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Cold Hardy Mango exist?
« on: August 20, 2015, 01:50:24 PM »I dont think people realize the process needed when experimenting with seeds. Its not just plant a seed, let it fruit in a few years and away we go. The plant will need to be monitored for many years for the following: fruit quality, tree characteristics such as cold tolerance, disease resistance, growth habit, etc. These are all things that can, and usually do, change from year to year while the tree is in a juvenile/devellopment stage. You will then need to see how it reacts when grafted, and even grown in different locations. This process can easily take upwards of ten or more years. This is not usually accomplished by planting one seed either.That's is an important point Rob. Anyone thinking of doing this has to know that failure is the most likely result. That being said I would encourage anyone that has a spot to try growing some fruit from seed. Every effort is worth a shot. Zills approach is one way to develop new things and obviously worked extremely well. If thousands of home owners each planted one seed that's another way. BTW 30 years ago my father planted 1000 mango trees from seed on the same property I'm working with these days. The same year every last seedling was killed by frost. Needless to say he gave up on fruit and starred raising livestock. So anyway... I'm not unaware of the risk. On the contrary I'm extremely concerned about if.
Those who are planting seeds especially of mono varieties (for example the Indian varieties), keep in mind you may invest years, space, cost to find out you have a fibrous piece of crap that will need to be cut down. This experimenting is usually done by people who invest their life into it and have plenty of space.
Look, I am all for people who have the time and space to take this on but most have no idea what they are getting into. Gary Zill did not just throw out some seeds like Jack and the Beanstalk and get these top varieties in a few years. He invested many many years and lots of time, space and money to get to where things are. There is a reason he is not doing it again.
Just my 2 pennies on the subject...
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Does Cold Hardy Mango exist?
« on: August 20, 2015, 11:16:34 AM »
There may or may not be a hardier mango yet but it's going to be the guys planting seeds in colder areas that will develop it. Keep planting seeds. Maybe you won't see the "fruit" of your labor but your kids or grandkids might. Forward thinking people don't get bogged down by the naysayers
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bruce Lee-Fist of Flurry!!!
« on: August 19, 2015, 09:02:24 PM »To OCchris: you need to relax man. You come too late, miss a bunch of nonsensical later edited stuff that btw included oral sex joke by the poster. I actually do have a heart, and it pains when somebody comes and trashes overall quality of the forum.DrainoLover you must be an very angry person. Someone hurt you really bad didn't they? Listen pal it's ok you'll be alright it may just take a while.
He still never posted where his trees are planted. Climate zone, city, state? Mighty the first guy ever here to ask for cold protection advice while keeping his location a secret. Does that makes any sense to you?
Chris if anyone wants to know my location it's in my profile. Alternatively they can ask me. I think I've described the conditions at my location and past experiences here reasonably well. Anyhow, there was a joke on this thread that might have been a tiny bit risqué. However, it was initiated by a respected member on this forum and it was rather funny. So you see DrainoLover is not a very credible purveyor of the truth. In conclusion, I don't know why I'm being berated by DrainoLover. It could be that I failed to ask permission or go through proper channels before asking a question or making a post. I might have missed the correct procedure in the guide lines. Alternatively it's possible that DrainoLover has a secret fetish for gorillas and is acting on impulses which he may not even understand but I assure you dude I'm just a regular guy and I don't go that way.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bruce Lee-Fist of Flurry!!!
« on: August 17, 2015, 09:01:13 AM »I met with Miss Cleo yesterday and you would not believe what she said. Anyone care to take a guess?
That all my trees will survive And that i will have beautiful fruit in the first year??
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bruce Lee-Fist of Flurry!!!
« on: August 17, 2015, 05:38:24 AM »
Old Farmers Almanac predicting a cold and snowy winter
http://m.wlky.com/news/Super-cold-slew-of-snow-in-Old-Farmer-s-Almanac-forecast/34751018
http://m.wlky.com/news/Super-cold-slew-of-snow-in-Old-Farmer-s-Almanac-forecast/34751018
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bruce Lee-Fist of Flurry!!!
« on: August 16, 2015, 07:21:41 AM »
Durian Lover you're entitled to your own opinion although if it doesn't add anything constructive to the thread Im not really interested in it. For the record I did lots of research on my trees before I purchased them. I also read as much as I could on this forum on the subject of zone pushing before joining. This is for me the area of most concern and I wish to learn more about others experiences. I think I will probably loose some plant(s) this winter because it's been the trend on my property but I want to do what I can to get as many of my small trees to a hardier size. Durian Lover, aside from your highlighting my opinion on computer models and therefore round about suggesting yours, you did nothing to add anything constructive to this thread instead you took a personal swipe at my choice of a name and avatar? I didn't defend the validity of this subject for your benefit. Like I said if you don't have a worthwhile opinion on the subject matter, I'm not interested in what you have to say.
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bruce Lee-Fist of Flurry!!!
« on: August 15, 2015, 10:55:11 PM »
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