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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: murahilin on June 05, 2012, 10:45:07 PM
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I searched and searched Google for a comprehensive list of mango cultivars and their growth habit, seed type, season, etc. but I was unable to find any. Squam did all of the hard work and made a handy list of 365 cultivars but we need the help of all of the members to input the other characteristics of the trees and fruit and also any missing cultivars. Please let me know any other category suggestions for the list.
This list will help people with such questions as "Which mango trees will give me the longest season?" or "How big will my tree get?" and "Which cultivars can be grated for the optimal multi mango tree?".
EDIT: We now have 468 cultivars on the list!
The weight should probably be in grams.
Here is the list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1T5yroo6oqvsERObsP-LtgS_zX43TkEMcqtf4_CajGGE/edit?usp=sharing
If you would like to be able to edit the list, please shoot me a PM with your email address and I will add you.
There is a chat feature on the right side of the list if you click the "other viewers" button. People working on the list can use this to discuss changes to the list if they need to.
Please do not delete any information on the list. If you have to make a revision of something you see as an inaccuracy please copy the incorrect information to the "notes" column and explain why you changed it. Also, Do not move around or change the format as I have it or delete any of the columns I created. If you do not like the way I have organized everything, please feel free to copy the list and modify it on your own but not modify this one.
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I really like this idea :)
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I really like this idea :)
Patrick and I were discussing how to figure out a way to know which mango cultivars would best be multi-grafted onto one tree and he suggested that a list of all the cultivars would be very helpful so I contacted Squam because I figured if anyone was to have a list of the cultivars it would him and here we are with a list. Lol.
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Wow! You and Squam have done some excellent work. That is quite the list. This ill be a great source for all of those FAQ's. Early, mid and late season should be sufficient. How about a photo of each? Too much work?
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Wow! You and Squam have done some excellent work. That is quite the list. This ill be a great source for all of those FAQ's. Early, mid and late season should be sufficient. How about a photo of each? Too much work?
A photo would be great but we would need a more secure (longer lasting) place to host it than "postimage" on the forum. As it is mango season, how about everyone try and get as many shots of mango as possible so we can put it a link to each cultivars photo also. That would make this list truly the greatest mango list every compiled.
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Great idea! Do any of the mango books have cultivar lists? What about The Mango: its Botany. Don't have that book so don't know. I've always wondered about total number of worldwide mango cultivars? It's usually given as over 1000, but my guess is that it's a lot more than that. Don't suppose you want to work on that next Sheehan? ;)
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The Fairchild Mango Festival coming up will be a good place to get some photos, many varieties in one location.
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Wow! You and Squam have done some excellent work. That is quite the list. This ill be a great source for all of those FAQ's. Early, mid and late season should be sufficient. How about a photo of each? Too much work?
A photo would be great but we would need a more secure (longer lasting) place to host it than "postimage" on the forum. As it is mango season, how about everyone try and get as many shots of mango as possible so we can put it a link to each cultivars photo also. That would make this list truly the greatest mango list every compiled.
Couldn't you store or backup the photos on this website? Or internatitontropicalfruitforum.com?
BTW i find that postimage quality is pretty bad. Seems to me that all the photos posted there are over exposed, blurry? Doesn't seem like the maintain original quality?
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Great idea! Do any of the mango books have cultivar lists? What about The Mango: its Botany. Don't have that book so don't know. I've always wondered about total number of worldwide mango cultivars? It's usually given as over 1000, but my guess is that it's a lot more than that. Don't suppose you want to work on that next murahilin? ;)
I wish I had the time to make all the lists I want to. After studying all day for the bar, not much time or energy to work on lists at night.
I checked The Mango: Botany, Production and Uses and it only has about 60 or so cultivars listed. I am sure there are a few other cultivars throughout the book but nothing as comprehensive.
I think if everyone contributes we could get this list to be almost all inclusive of the mango cultivars around the world.
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Couldn't you store or backup the photos on this website? Or internatitontropicalfruitforum.com?
BTW i find that postimage quality is pretty bad. Seems to me that all the photos posted there are over exposed, blurry? Doesn't seem like the maintain original quality?
There would be enough space on the other site to host it but it would likely drain a lot of bandwidth and since we are on shared hosting it may slow down the forum. I think using the same google drive that I uploaded the list too would be the best place to store the images because it won't affect the loading time of the forum or any other of our websites. If everyone could email me their photos of their mango cultivars I could work on uploading them to an album that anyone on google+ would be able to see.
If anyone does email me their mango pics, please make sure it's your own pic to avoid copyright issues.
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What a great idea.
I think the season should be given as the months the tree fruits in Florida. Early, mid or late season is too simple. Certain trees would them be listed as early to mid which covers too long of a season to really be helpful. Plus most people that are growing a variety should easily know in what months the tree usually fruits.
Bill
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The Fairchild Mango Festival coming up will be a good place to get some photos, many varieties in one location.
That's a good idea. I think I remember seeing a bunch of pics of mangos from there in the past few years posted by members so we could even start gathering those members pics from now and we wouldn't need as many from the Festival.
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The Fairchild Mango Festival coming up will be a good place to get some photos, many varieties in one location.
That's a good idea. I think I remember seeing a bunch of pics of mangos from there in the past few years posted by members so we could even start gathering those members pics from now and we wouldn't need as many from the Festival.
Only problem with using Fairchild fest photos is that some of the fruits are not fully ripe. They pick whatever they have at the time. But still a great idea because you could just omit the photos that aren't really representative of the fruits. If members contributed photos of their own fruits i would think they would be better quality shots as often the lighting, crowds, rush, etc. at the festival is not really conducive to getting good shots.
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I have pics of most of the fruit at the 2010 and 2011 festivals.
Asit Ghosh also has a lot of pics that he's uploaded to flickr.
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I have pics of most of the fruit at the 2010 and 2011 festivals.
Asit Ghosh also has a lot of pics that he's uploaded to flickr.
You should invite Asit Ghosh to the forum. Maybe he would be willing to contribute his mango pics to the list?
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In regards to the "Season" category, should it be general such as early, mid, late or should be specify the months for the main mango growing areas on the forum eg., Florida, CA?
Fantastic idea.
I'm of the belief that if you want to make an 'ultimate mango list', you dont base it soley on Floridian mango season, particularly if you want cultivars from far off places that dont care about when the mangoes might ripen in Florida. I note that early-mid-late is pretty simplistic though. Perhaps making bracketed notes on season in Floria or CA after the early-mid-late scale would be okay - or have it as an unlabelled field in a 'notes/observations' category?
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I will try and get some good photos in a couple of weeks, when we have our own Mango festival.
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Fantastic idea.
I'm of the belief that if you want to make an 'ultimate mango list', you dont base it soley on Floridian mango season, particularly if you want cultivars from far off places that dont care about when the mangoes might ripen in Florida. I note that early-mid-late is pretty simplistic though. Perhaps making bracketed notes on season in Floria or CA after the early-mid-late scale would be okay - or have it as an unlabelled field in a 'notes/observations' category?
I agree. We can't have the list be Florida centric but we can definitely add a column for each mango region and have the months listed. The season bracket will remain pretty simplistic and be early-mid-late and if anyone wants to go through the extra work of adding the months for their region in another column that would be fine too.
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Is there scope to add in categories for fruit size (avg.) and eating type (green/yellow/both)?
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Great idea count me in.I will try to get shots of some of the more unusual ones during the season like rabaul/cedar bay and some of the feral forms.
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Is there scope to add in categories for fruit size (avg.) and eating type (green/yellow/both)?
Good idea. I added those two categories.
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Very cool! Thanks for doing this. Perhaps one day it could even be converted into a full-fletched online mango database.
Tomas
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Very cool! Thanks for doing this. Perhaps one day it could even be converted into a full-fletched online mango database.
Tomas
That's the eventual goal. I see a lot of people have visited the list but hardly anyone has contributed though. The success of the list really depends on members taking the time to input info.
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What about a category for "where" successfully fruited ?
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What about a category for "where" successfully fruited ?
That category doesn't seem too important because with a greenhouse you could theoretically fruit them anywhere. It would me a more relevant category in the list of all fruit species but not this specific mango list.
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Would a "special notes" column be appropriate? E.g. "harvest mature green for best flavor."
And a fruit quality column? "Heroic" members of the forum could rate those varieties they have tasted, from one to 5 stars.
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Would a "special notes" column be appropriate? E.g. "harvest mature green for best flavor."
And a fruit quality column? "Heroic" members of the forum could rate those varieties they have tasted, from one to 5 stars.
I am not sure if I want to add a quality column because peoples tastes are so different. I don't want one persons flavor profile controlling the list.
The notes column would be good because that is also where anyone could comment on how they would describe the flavor, avoiding a rating system.
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What about a category for "where" successfully fruited ?
That category doesn't seem too important because with a greenhouse you could theoretically fruit them anywhere. It would me a more relevant category in the list of all fruit species but not this specific mango list.
I disagree...as fruiting in a greenhouse, basement, etc. would provide a different climate condition and environment where everything could be off, including season, taste, color, stc. I think this list should be made up of outdoor fruiting trees as that is where most fruiting occurs and that is what most people will be wanting to know about. say this cause as most people are growing them outdoors, it would be helpful to know that it may fruit in location x but not in location y; or it may be less disease resitant in location x than location y.
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I disagree...as fruiting in a greenhouse, basement, etc. would provide a different climate condition and environment where everything could be off, including season, taste, color, stc. I think this list should be made up of outdoor fruiting trees as that is where most fruiting occurs and that is what most people will be wanting to know about. say this cause as most people are growing them outdoors, it would be helpful to know that it may fruit in location x but not in location y; or it may be less disease resitant in location x than location y.
Eh... I disagree.
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I disagree...as fruiting in a greenhouse, basement, etc. would provide a different climate condition and environment where everything could be off, including season, taste, color, stc. I think this list should be made up of outdoor fruiting trees as that is where most fruiting occurs and that is what most people will be wanting to know about. say this cause as most people are growing them outdoors, it would be helpful to know that it may fruit in location x but not in location y; or it may be less disease resitant in location x than location y.
Eh... I disagree.
Then people may be relying on false information. It would be very important to know that a person fruited it in New York indoors and Califirnia outdoors but was not successful in Florida (hypothetical). I sure would be pissed if I wated time, space and money relying on what could be a very prominent database just to find out 5 years later that the info it it was skewed/not complete. Just my 2 pennies...I know, I do not have to read it if I don't want to.
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Then people may be relying on false information. It would be very important to know that a person fruited it in New York indoors and Califirnia outdoors but was not successful in Florida (hypothetical). I sure would be pissed if I wated time, space and money relying on what could be a very prominent database just to find out 5 years later that the info it it was skewed/not complete. Just my 2 pennies...I know, I do not have to read it if I don't want to.
The problem with making an entire category for it is that it's unlikely that many mangos that will fruit in CA and indoors in NY will not fruit in FL. That is where the "Notes" category would come in. It would allow for people to make anecdotal notes on what they have noticed. Something like a mango not fruiting in FL would be perfect for the notes section.
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My friend Mura... the mangolover ;D
Very cool having such a database! Do you want pictures of the fruit or also of the plant?
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Thank you guys for making this list!! I know it was a lot of work...We appreciate it ;D
I will definitely get some use from this as will so many others.
Nancy
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When our mango season rolls back around I will definitely add more info into the table.
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Great idea.
I haven't written in a while, i have too little spare time right now.
Anyhow, i just wanted to add a suggestion. A more general way the predict mangos maturation time exists and it is the degree day method. You just need the degree-day for a given cultivar and you can foretell if something will ripen at your house or not, and, if it turns out that it will ripe, you can guess when it will ripe. You just need a climate table of your location with average temperature, and some very simple math.
It's pretty easy to build a degree day table for a given cultuvar (simply record the flowering date and the maturation date, do it for some years and do the calculation) but the best thing is that once you have the degree day for the given cultivar it is the same in Florida, California, Canary island, India, Italy, New York, Hawaii, giving everyone a rough idea on how long a cultivar takes before ripening in a given environment.
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Ok, which of you listed Ataulfo as being monoembryonic?
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To anyone who is adding information. Please do not change information that is already in the list even if you disagree with it, without writing a note about the change in the notes section. Otherwise someone may come back and change it again.
Someone incorrectly changed the origin of the Julie mango to Jamaica. I had it listed as Trinidad as evidenced by many more sources than the ones that list Jamaica.
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Also, who labelled Brooks as being 'semi-dwarf'?
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To anyone who is adding information. Please do not change information that is already in the list even if you disagree with it, without writing a note about the change in the notes section. Otherwise someone may come back and change it again.
Someone incorrectly changed the origin of the Julie mango to Jamaica. I had it listed as Trinidad as evidenced by many more sources than the ones that list Jamaica.
Ever heard the saying... "Too many cooks spoil the soup" I suspect you may have this problem if everyone has permission to make changes.
Good luck on the bar exam.
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I'll email some pics in the next week or so .
I think photo's of bearing trees, age of the tree, mature unripe and ripe fruits would be nice nice to have.
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Ever heard the saying... "Too many cooks spoil the soup" I suspect you may have this problem if everyone has permission to make changes.
Good luck on the bar exam.
Thanks.
Since everyone does have permission to make changes, I can see the possibility of it getting out of control. Hopefully it doesn't.
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Thanks so much for this Murahlin and SQUAM!!!!!!!
I don't see the "other viewers" button on the right side
when I open it, Mura. Anyway I added a couple things -
but like someone said - the HEROIC members should have
some great filler information for much of the list.
And I was intrigued by Pan's idea of degree days - seems like
that WOULD be the general key as to when something would fruit.
Seems like that kind of science would align with the plant's inner computer.
Not even sure if that info is available much for the diff. species....
BUt this whole charting idea is conceptually POTENT!
GaryFang
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I think it would be a good idea, to set up some standard guidelines in the list.
For example, Fruit weight , if not specified means someone will put in ounces, grams, or pounds.
When stating tree size, what terms should people use, small/med/large or Dwarf, Normal, precocious etc.
having set names would prevent a big mix.
Also i can see where some problems and conflicts will arise with things like tree size, and season, due to differences in location and rootstock etc.
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Good Job creating this list.
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Excellent idea, Murahilin! When this thing is completed it will be an incredible resource. Bookmarked!
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My understanding is that Extrema is from Paraguay, and not Brazil as indicated on the list.
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Weight should only be in grams. Can someone please go through and convert all of the ounces to grams? Thanks!
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http://www.worldwidemetric.com/measurements.html (http://www.worldwidemetric.com/measurements.html) ;D ;D ;D
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http://www.worldwidemetric.com/measurements.html (http://www.worldwidemetric.com/measurements.html) ;D ;D ;D
Tim, thanks for volunteering. I look forward to our updated list! ;D
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How should we standardize the "Eating Type" column? Should it be "Green, Dessert, Both"?
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Desert ... as much as my family loves to eat them green, true greatness of mangoes aren't in that stage.
I'll do the conversion once everything is completed or near completion, how's that? ;D jk I will update as we go along.
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Desert ... as much as my family loves to eat them green, true greatness of mangoes aren't in that stage.
I'll do the conversion once everything is completed or near completion, how's that? ;D jk I will update as we go along.
What I meant was.. Should the choices be "green, dessert, both" as opposed to "Poor, fair, good, Excellent". Cause right now, we have both formats in the same column. Some mangos are definitely better eaten green.
Tim, you need to try the Khun See. Its excellent green.
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I was blindly suggesting from reading just the posts, I'll have a look at the updated list now ;D
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Thanks so much for this Murahlin and SQUAM!!!!!!!
I don't see the "other viewers" button on the right side
when I open it, Mura. Anyway I added a couple things -
but like someone said - the HEROIC members should have
some great filler information for much of the list.
And I was intrigued by Pan's idea of degree days - seems like
that WOULD be the general key as to when something would fruit.
Seems like that kind of science would align with the plant's inner computer.
Not even sure if that info is available much for the diff. species....
BUt this whole charting idea is conceptually POTENT!
GaryFang
If no one else is in the document it won't show the other viewers button.
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Spelling is everything
desert or dessert :P
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Spelling is everything
desert or dessert :P
Lmao. I don't know how I made that mistake. Twice!
I blame it on it my brain being fried from the studying...
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Mura - I added #193 - Kook Lom Krong - it's a scion i got from Frankie's. And it's my virgin
grafting success!!!!!!!!! So def. want that in there.... 8)
YahooFang
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Where it produced fruit for the first time.
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Once again, please do not change any of the names of the categories I made. If you would like to suggest something different, mention it here. Do not take it upon yourself to change it. Someone changed the Fruit Season category to Fruit Seasons in Florida so I deleted everything that was Florida specific. If we need a FL column it can be separate but I am not sure if we need one.
Do you guys think we need a separate column for Florida Seasons?
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Once again, please do not change any of the names of the categories I made. If you would like to suggest something different, mention it here. Do not take it upon yourself to change it. Someone changed the Fruit Season category to Fruit Seasons in Florida so I deleted everything that was Florida specific. If we need a FL column it can be separate but I am not sure if we need one.
Do you guys think we need a separate column for Florida Seasons?
Late, mid-season, early are not specific enough. If you want to extend the mango season with fewer trees then it would be nice to have the month and year for South Florida. For example Lemon Meringue is coming in early June in 2012. Keep this for each year. We record LM in 2013, 2014 etc
You would need another spread sheet
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How does one insert an image into the picture cell?
I tried selecting that cell, clicking insert, and image. The picture covered up many cells.
Should I be inserting a link instead? Or?
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The Browards Rare Fruit Tree Council has a nice list of mangos on their website:
http://www.rfvcbroward.org/mangos.html (http://www.rfvcbroward.org/mangos.html)
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The Browards Rare Fruit Tree Council has a nice list of mangos on their website:
http://www.rfvcbroward.org/mangos.html (http://www.rfvcbroward.org/mangos.html)
reported attack page from Firefox...I have had this issue before with links to the Broward RFC webpages.
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The Browards Rare Fruit Tree Council has a nice list of mangos on their website:
http://www.rfvcbroward.org/mangos.html (http://www.rfvcbroward.org/mangos.html)
reported attack page from Firefox...I have had this issue before with links to the Broward RFC webpages.
Same problem here. I went to it because I was curious about their list though. Ours is much more comprehensive. Maybe they can use our list on their website once we finish it.
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Yes, Murahlin - I think if we are going to mention the seasons for fruiting it should be specific to the region it applies to. Also, I'm adding some information on the Kook Lom Krong, but it is hearsay from someone else's mouth. IS this OK....you'll see it with the KOOK mango when i finish it here....
gary
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oops the Kook Lom Krong is not there anymore - did I do something wrong?
Fangiliscious
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oops the Kook Lom Krong is not there anymore - did I do something wrong?
Fangiliscious
I don't see it there either. Try re-adding it and see what happens.
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OK - re-entered it and added a few comments. Now, is this supposed to be some kind of "official" knowledge of the variety or what someone told you or "the word on the street" kind of information? A Lynn from Frankie's is where I gleaned this info from the old tropical fruit forum and I am using it like it pulls some weight, as there is so little on the internet about Kook Lom Krong...
Perhaps some info is better than nothing? Or...perhaps the Source of the information should be revealed (oh but then if 5 people add stuff to a variety you might have 5 different sources!)
Gary
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OK - re-entered it and added a few comments. Now, is this supposed to be some kind of "official" knowledge of the variety or what someone told you or "the word on the street" kind of information? A Lynn from Frankie's is where I gleaned this info from the old tropical fruit forum and I am using it like it pulls some weight, as there is so little on the internet about Kook Lom Krong...
Perhaps some info is better than nothing? Or...perhaps the Source of the information should be revealed (oh but then if 5 peopla add stuff to a variety you might have 5 different sources!)
Gary
good idea Gary. I'm going to add Bizcochuelo to the list. I'll have to look in the archives of the old GW forum for my description of this legendary Cuban variety.
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OK - re-entered it and added a few comments. Now, is this supposed to be some kind of "official" knowledge of the variety or what someone told you or "the word on the street" kind of information? A Lynn from Frankie's is where I gleaned this info from the old tropical fruit forum and I am using it like it pulls some weight, as there is so little on the internet about Kook Lom Krong...
Perhaps some info is better than nothing? Or...perhaps the Source of the information should be revealed (oh but then if 5 peopla add stuff to a variety you might have 5 different sources!)
Gary
That would be Frankie's wife. She is very knowledgeable. In fact she is the one that does all the grafting at that nursery.
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Great list, already learned some new info about one of the mangoes I am growing (did not know it was poly).
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Yesterday I went through the list and added info to quite a few varieties.
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Yesterday I went through the list and added info to quite a few varieties.
Awesome. Thanks!
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Just noticed some mangoes are not showing up, for example I'm only listing
5
11
22
120
135 (nothing)
136 from this entry on it looks ok.
not sure if this is just a problem on my side or its happening to everyone.
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I'm having the same problem. It looks like someone deleted a lot of mangos from the list.
The list is also showing Southern Blush and Spirit of 76 as early? I thought they both fruited about the same time in June or July.
The list also shows San Felipe as early. PIN says it fruits in June. Is June considered early? I thought that was mid season.
Bill
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I fixed the problem. Someone turned on a filter that hid a lot of data. I just disabled the filter and all the fields showed back up.
Still not sure what went in 135 though.
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Ican get pics of about 32 different mango varieties if u can give me the entire season to take them A's they become ripe at the farm. Do you guys think that would be useful? Or trees as well? Let me kno
Thx
Zack
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The Dupuis Saigon says medium tree- its not. I saw Walter Zill's one-its huge. He told me that he considers it a vigorous grower. He also describes it as an early mango, his favorite early mango.
Just an FYI
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Ican get pics of about 32 different mango varieties if u can give me the entire season to take them A's they become ripe at the farm. Do you guys think that would be useful? Or trees as well? Let me kno
Thx
Zack
Yes, that would be very useful. Thanks for the offering to take the time to take the pics. Pics of trees would be helpful but if possible, could you also include the age of the tree with the pic? I think that would give a better reference as to how large the tree will get after a certain time period in FL.
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Input from members
Some 25 odd years ago I had a peach mango (never saw another one) and can tell you this:
Tree size: large
Growth rate: fast
Fruit size: Small less han a pound
Fiber: None very sweet
Disease resistance: NEVER had any common problems reported on the web
Location:Deerfield Beach Fla.
I only fed it fish carcasses, nothing more, and it supplied the whole neighborhood with fruit in less than 5 years from a tree when it went into the ground with a trunk around 3" across.
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Looks like someone decided to wipe out our list. >:( >:( :'(
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Looks like someone decided to wipe out our list. >:( >:( :'(
Lol. Yes they did. But the person who did it is an idiot and the list has been restored. Google keeps copies of the list for every single revision. So all I had to do was click two buttons and restore the last good copy.
Thanks for alerting me to this Xeno.
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Nice one, google!
BTW, I'm already loving the list - I've got a tree that needs replacing, and am trying to decide which mango to get. Leaning toward a cushman...
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Hi,
I am from the Philippines. I would like to share with you carabao mango cultivars. The GES stand for Guimaras Experimental Station. This is the National Mango Research Center of the Bureau of Plant Industry located in Jordan, Guimaras Island. The number after the GES stands for the year it was registered and released. MMSU means Mariano Marcos State Univeristy located in Ilocos . The Sweet Elena is from Sabang, Sta. Cruz, Zambales. Fresco, Talaban, Tanaleon, Guimaras Super (Galila) and Efondo are the surnames of theowners of mother tree, all of which are located in the Island province of Guimaras. There are also other endemic mango varieties but not popularized such as pico, paho and huani.
I hope this will be of help.
Please find attached characteristics of the different mango cultivars.
Mansueto
(http://s13.postimage.org/pqe8liabn/CCF08282012_00000.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/pqe8liabn/)
(http://s13.postimage.org/p25e2kblv/CCF08282012_00001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/p25e2kblv/)
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Hi,
I am from the Philippines. I would like to share with you carabao mango cultivars. The GES stand for Guimaras Experimental Station. This is the National Mango Research Center of the Bureau of Plant Industry located in Jordan, Guimaras Island. The number after the GES stands for the year it was registered and released. MMSU means Mariano Marcos State Univeristy located in Ilocos . The Sweet Elena is from Sabang, Sta. Cruz, Zambales. Fresco, Talaban, Tanaleon, Guimaras Super (Galila) and Efondo are the surnames of theowners of mother tree, all of which are located in the Island province of Guimaras. There are also other endemic mango varieties but not popularized such as pico, paho and huani.
I hope this will be of help.
Please find attached characteristics of the different mango cultivars.
Mansueto
(http://s13.postimage.org/pqe8liabn/CCF08282012_00000.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/pqe8liabn/)
(http://s13.postimage.org/p25e2kblv/CCF08282012_00001.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/p25e2kblv/)
Welcome to the Forum, and thank you for the lists, the second list has the names cut off at the top though.
Interesting the "Super Galila" has a brix over 22% that must be like eating pure honey.
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Hi,
I am from the Philippines. I would like to share with you carabao mango cultivars. The GES stand for Guimaras Experimental Station. This is the National Mango Research Center of the Bureau of Plant Industry located in Jordan, Guimaras Island. The number after the GES stands for the year it was registered and released. MMSU means Mariano Marcos State Univeristy located in Ilocos . The Sweet Elena is from Sabang, Sta. Cruz, Zambales. Fresco, Talaban, Tanaleon, Guimaras Super (Galila) and Efondo are the surnames of theowners of mother tree, all of which are located in the Island province of Guimaras. There are also other endemic mango varieties but not popularized such as pico, paho and huani.
I hope this will be of help.
Please find attached characteristics of the different mango cultivars.
Mansueto
Thanks for those lists. I will try to add them to the mango list soon if someone else has not done so already.
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A bullock heart gave me 3 or 4 seedlings so I added that as a poly.
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Seems list is messed up again,
update, looking good now :)
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Looks like its messed up again.
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Looks like its messed up again.
I checked to see if the filter was on, this was a fix Mura did before, and sure enough it was on. I turned it off, and seems all ok. I suggest people download the list, just in case, I downloaded a copy in PDF format. and keep it on my USB drive for reference.
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Thank you William.
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Once mango season starts, I will make the list a sticky again. Hopefully we could get an almost completed list in the next year or so.
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I know mango list has been going on for a while but may I suggest two more more columns for disease resistance and yield? I have heard disease resistance is quiet variable between varieties and yield is also very different for different varieties.
Thanks
Steven
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This mango list is awesome. Once it's completed, I assume in about a year or so, I hope a new one could be started for avocado or lychee.
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Agreed, super cool Idea, list can be made for lots of fruits in a similar manor. Defiantly a way to preserve some germplasm 8)
Unless it has already been used, the book cornucopia II has lots of varieties of everything listed and should have some mango cultivars listed too. Don't have my copy on me though...
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where and when is the Fairchild Mango Festival?
http://www.fairchildgarden.org/Events/?date=2013-07&eventid=748 (http://www.fairchildgarden.org/Events/?date=2013-07&eventid=748)
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Just bumping this list. Hoping to see more info after this season :)
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I am still waiting on permission to view the list.
Could someone tell me what kind of seed Po Pyu Kalay (Lemon Merengue), Carrie and Mallika have?
How true to type are polyembryonic mango seeds?
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polyembryonic seeds have one "sprout" that is a result of sexual reproduction (and not identical to the mother). The rest are identical clones of the mother.
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Thanks Gunnar.
I read conflicting things about which shoot is the one that is a clone, so I wasn't sure.
Does anyone have a saved version of the file that they could PM me?
Or someone with access tell me what seed have Carrie, Mallika and Po Pyu Kalay?
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Mono, mom, poly(though I have seen some PPK come up mono) in that order.
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Is this list still available? I tried to look at it, but is says that I need permission. If it is no longer available, does anyone have a copy of it?
Thanks,
Johnnie
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So is there anyone that has this list by any chance? I still have not heard anything.
Thanks again,
Johnnie
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Is this list Operational at the moment ???????? I can't seem to get into it.......Mike
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I don't know, but it seems the moderators absconded with the list?
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It has become a source of amusement watching this post get bumped every few months. Always with the same response I had a long time ago....why isn't the list accessible??? Like tootsie pops, the world may never know...
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Last i heard if you submitted a certain number of mango photos to the moderators then you would have the privilige of having access to it. Otherwise you had to pay to get in? :o That was the plan, but it seems like many projects, like T-shirt project, and logo project, it never went anywhere?
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Moderators.... If there is a cost for use.....Please advise & how who do you pay too ?????????
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The list was in google documents. Did anyone save it, or any of its versions?
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Moderators.... If there is a cost for use.....Please advise & how who do you pay too ?????????
Probably will be easier just to start a whole new list!
Start a new thread, and a Google doc...
Who knows, maybe the new one will be even more comprehensive.
And eventually you can lock it! :P
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Notice how none of the moderators ever answer the questions? Come on Murahilin! We know you've got that list in your closet. Wasn't this supposed to be a kind of wiki list with everyone contributing and everyone having access? Why was it removed?
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We removed it because people kept on deleting it. So I changed it from open to restricted access. I think I also moved the drive where it was located. I'll look for it tonight.
But like everything else... You get what you pay for...
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We removed it because people kept on deleting it. So I changed it from open to restricted access. I think I also moved the drive where it was located. I'll look for it tonight.
But like everything else... You get what you pay for...
OK, thanks for answering. Didn't affect me much personally. But i think a lot of other people really enjoyed having access to this list. So it would be great if you could reactivate it.
PS is there any way to have a password or some other way to block people from completely deleting it? How does Wikipedia keep people from vandalizing their site? Would you need to use a moderator to approve each change before it takes effect?
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We removed it because people kept on deleting it. So I changed it from open to restricted access. I think I also moved the drive where it was located. I'll look for it tonight.
But like everything else... You get what you pay for...
I've requested access via Google a couple times but it was never granted.
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We removed it because people kept on deleting it. So I changed it from open to restricted access. I think I also moved the drive where it was located. I'll look for it tonight.
But like everything else... You get what you pay for...
I've requested access via Google a couple times but it was never granted.
I'm not even sure where those requests are going because I don't think I've gotten them.
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OK, thanks for answering. Didn't affect me much personally. But i think a lot of other people really enjoyed having access to this list. So it would be great if you could reactivate it.
PS is there any way to have a password or some other way to block people from completely deleting it? How does Wikipedia keep people from vandalizing their site? Would you need to use a moderator to approve each change before it takes effect?
Wikipedia has a ton of moderators.
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The list has been fixed. If you would like to edit the list, send me a PM with your email address and I will add you. This way if someone tries to delete the entire list I can see who did it.
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The list has been fixed. If you would like to edit the list, send me a PM with your email address and I will add you. This way if someone tries to delete the entire list I can see who did it.
man...sorry to hear someone deleted the list...what a peckerheaded thing to do.
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Murahilin...... Thank you for opening up the List again........ Will pm you if I know of new additions amendments etc...... Mike
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Amazing list. Bumping it back up because many on the forum might not know it exists. Bookmarked it. Unfortunately many of the common, more recent Zill varieties and others aren't fleshed out as well as they could be. Of course this takes a lot of time and manpower- Murahilin and Squam thanks for your work on it.
While I'm a mango novice and have little to contribute, hopefully others who are veterans can add for everyones mutual benefit.