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Eureka lemon is STRONGLY incompatible with Eureka Lemon.
That’s what I had read in some places and others didn’t say. Which makes me wonder why all the big box stores have them on C-35. I was so tempted to buy a pink eureka because it was so pretty.

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I was wondering if Millet would have time to respond.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: April 11, 2024, 04:01:30 PM »
The bigger tree is a Fukushu kumquat.  Only the small one is a grafted Meiwa on FD.  I have 2 other seed grown Meiwa trees.  I got a quart of fruit from my 1 seedling Meiwa.


Thank you

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Isn’t c-35 rootstock highly incompatible with any type of eureka? If so why am I finding all these trees here at big box stores with them grafted together?  Am I wrong or do they not care and are just trying to make money? How long does it take to show incompatibility? Their grafts look really good so I’m just wondering.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: April 11, 2024, 01:40:21 AM »
Thanks;

It is now outside for the summer.

I also have a Meiwa on Flying dragon after its rootstock transplant to replace its incompatible Kuharske citrange.




Is the big tree also a Miewa?
I have found FD to be very dwarfing for my Meiwa.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: April 09, 2024, 01:13:46 PM »



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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 07, 2024, 07:20:17 PM »


I am not a fan of sumo, I think there's alot more mandarin out there that are better. I prefer gold nugget and owari.
I have never had an owari or gold nugget but I planted an owari outside this year. I was so excited until I read they are not very good tasting in hot climates. We have about 3 months of over 100-106 degrees or higher. But I’m planning to use some shade cloth. Is this claim true?
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I live in a hot climate and my owari is good. same with my young seto, it's good.
Kulasa that’s encouraging.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 07, 2024, 12:24:20 AM »
I use 1.5 Tsp per gallon 2 ties a week in summer.  In fall I use 0. In inter I use 1 Tsp 2 time monthly and in spring 1 Tbsp. weekly.  25-5-15 jacks.
Do I have this right all of it per gallon using jacks 24-5-15 which is what I have.
Spring 1Tbsp weekly
Summer 1.5 tsp weekly
Fall 0.5 tsp weekly
Winter 1tsp twice a month?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 06, 2024, 07:57:15 PM »
That's about right, I fertilize weekly but not weakly.  I live in zone9a which requires me to water my trees more often. Trees are in 511 fir bark.

Do you use 1tsp of jacks per gallon? How many gallons do u usually give each tree?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 06, 2024, 07:52:20 PM »


I am not a fan of sumo, I think there's alot more mandarin out there that are better. I prefer gold nugget and owari.
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I have never had an owari or gold nugget but I planted an owari outside this year. I was so excited until I read they are not very good tasting in hot climates. We have about 3 months of over 100-106 degrees or higher. But I’m planning to use some shade cloth. Is this claim true?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 06, 2024, 07:47:01 PM »
I highly recommend sumo, it has a permanent place in my greenhouse

I couldn’t understand what the whole hype about them was until I bought some on sale a couple weeks ago. I wish I had bought all the store had they were so good so far it’s my favorite now.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 05, 2024, 06:25:49 PM »
Here are 2 pictures of my grafted sumo which I acquired from UCR last year. It only bear 2 fruits. They are the size of my small grapefruit. Can’t wait to taste it.






Thank you for sharing. I love to see peoples pictures. This is the next citrus on my list to get.  I told my husband if he wants to get me something for mother day…. 😆

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Meyer lemon on carrizo good or bad?
« on: April 05, 2024, 06:23:49 PM »
A  pH of about 7.8 is the highest pH level that a Carrizo rootstock will grow.  Above that pH don't even try.

Millet what about if I decide to keep it in a pot. Will it be ok if I use hose water? Also a branch broke off while moving it so I’m trying to root it. Would a Meyer on its own roots do good in ground?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Meyer lemon on carrizo good or bad?
« on: April 05, 2024, 06:04:59 PM »
It is unlikely that Carrizo will grow. unless you have a large raise bed.  Seville sour orange rootstock does well with higher PH soils

Are there any that do well with high PH and have good cold tolerance since I’m in 8b?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Meyer lemon on carrizo good or bad?
« on: April 05, 2024, 03:13:58 AM »
If your soil is PH 7 you should do fine.  You can also plant it in a raised bed.
I will have to find out but I’m guessing it’s higher. Our water here has a GH of 22 and KH of 11. And we have really alkaline soil in this area. But I compost my garden and other beds every year to help things grow.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Meyer lemon on carrizo good or bad?
« on: April 05, 2024, 03:10:36 AM »
Do you have any other citrus growing well in ground?

If you do, then just graft the Meyer lemon to the tree that is doing well.

I just planted some in ground in the last 2 months but that is it.

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Citrus General Discussion / Meyer lemon on carrizo good or bad?
« on: April 04, 2024, 04:35:00 PM »
I found a Meyer lemon at Lowe’s on carrizo rootstock. I want to plant it in ground. Is this a good idea? I read that rootstock does not to well in high PH soils but if I amended the soil every year would it do ok?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: compact lemon options
« on: April 03, 2024, 03:49:39 PM »


I would like it if no one else wants it. Im sure it’s a given but I will pay shipping.


I grafted a few of them (in case the grafts failed), and I only need one.  This is the extra one if anyone wants it:

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 02, 2024, 11:53:02 PM »
Millet and Kulasa, I will probably start fertalizing mine more often. I just replanted my citrus into 5-2-1 because it gets so hot here and it’s so dry.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 02, 2024, 11:49:59 PM »
If the molted branch is the lower one in your photo, then you might want to cut it before it returns to all green. I had a similar branch on my variegated sumo and it turn back to green, ended up cutting it off. Now the tree is all variegated again.
I’m thinking the mottled branch will stay mottled only because Madison citrus sells variegated and mottled minniolas. And the mottled looks cool too but I prefer the variegated on this tree and maybe a full mottled one down the road.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Happy Easter
« on: April 01, 2024, 07:44:55 PM »
Christ is resin. Happy Easter.
Happy late Easter.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 01, 2024, 07:43:27 PM »
What Millet said. I am very particular with feeding my potted trees.
What do you feed your potted trees?

I feed them Jack's 25-5-15.

Can I ask how often?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 01, 2024, 07:41:58 PM »
I can respond to your question about cutting the green branches to let the variegated branches grow more. Yes, you want to cut off any of the non-variegated branches if your tree is strong enough with just the variegated branches. If your tree is still too small, you may want to wait until the variegated branches have established.

I have a large, variegated Valencia orange tree which is over 30 years old, plenty of variegated branches, tons of variegated fruits each year. I deliberately leave a few green branches so that I can still get both types of fruits. There is a difference with the Valencia orange. The normal green branches have nice size fruits about the size of navel oranges. The variegated Valencia branches (95% of the tree) will have smaller stripped green/yellow fruits that turns yellow when ripe. These variegated fruits are 2/3 the size of the normal fruits and is not as sweet.
Thank you. That answers my question. I believe Madison citrus calls it mottled. My mottled branch actually has 2 fruit on it. I want to just try one this year. I think for now I will leave the branch and maybe trim it off next year.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 01, 2024, 12:20:06 PM »
What Millet said. I am very particular with feeding my potted trees.
What do you feed your potted trees?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Variegated minneola
« on: April 01, 2024, 12:14:06 PM »
Brain,  I read somewhere that variegated citrus eventually revert back to a regular tree. So I posted the question on a Facebook page that Hershell had started to find accurate info, and he responded saying that, that is not true. But what happens is a non-variegated branch will start and then eventually overtake. I wonder if the branches that are not the white/green were trimmed off if it would continue to be just Whit/green branches? Mine has one branch of light green dark green and I’m wondering if I should trim it off before it gets very big.
Brian, have you noticed if the branches that are the light green/dark green grow faster and more abundantly?

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