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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Thief Caught
« on: September 09, 2023, 09:29:23 AM »
As mentioned already, Florida grown OS don't look like that. The one on the right looks slightly like a sweet tart. Does the sap smell like citrus?

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I would not give them any nitrogen, unless you're wanting them to get big quickly. Be careful not to feed the grass with nitrogen too close to the root zone either.

There is a special 0-3-16 formulation that Har / Guanabanus helped create which is sold by Truly Tropical and is perfect for mangoes on our sandy soil: https://www.themangoplace.com/fertilizers

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The “ Coffin “ Grafting Method ?
« on: September 05, 2023, 07:39:44 PM »
Yes, must go deeper on the rootstock to reach the cambium layer (white). Be careful not to scrape off the wet / slimy cambium layer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achacha help
« on: September 04, 2023, 08:42:48 AM »
Since it's already burned, you may as well leave it where it's at. It's probably adapted to the sun at this point and burned what it was going to burn.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achacha help
« on: September 03, 2023, 09:11:51 AM »
Yah, i was also thinking sunburn, like maybe it got moved from shade to sun.

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I don't think regular tap water would cause that. I would start to wonder if perhaps soft water is somehow making it to that tap. At this stage, you don't want to give it any form of fertilizer and would want to flush the rootball with water known to contain no salts. It looks beyond recovery though. The time to save would have been before that last flush. But I guess it's worth a shot?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rooting King Shatoot mulberry
« on: September 01, 2023, 05:02:12 PM »
The orange growth look like a good sign.

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DesertTropicals, that looks like salt stress. Perhaps you have soft water or maybe it got too much fertilizer?

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Veneer graft, like this. But wrap the top in parafilm or similar to prevent dehydration and water ingress.

https://guide2agriculture.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/Veneer_Grafting_In_Mango.jpg

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Very nice. You know you can also side veneer the bigger shoots.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: August 29, 2023, 08:49:19 AM »
Venus and orange essence

It's late August, anything other than Keitt left on the trees in Florida?

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Yes, it's the grass fertilizer. If you give them absolutely zero nitrogen -- not even compost -- growth rate slows considerably and they stop responding with incredible vigor when pruned.

If you need to feed the grass, then you should focus on the true dwarf mangoes, such as julie, dwarf hawaiian, etc.

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Now is the time, but I would start grafting some of those shoots. I see a lot of very nice looking shoots for side veneer grafting.

Alternately you can cut to a stump and graft the stump like Dr Richard Campbell does here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dyjkl9Fzzs4

Weird cause my 10+ year old maha has been low vigor with a complex branching habit. But then again, I grafted mine on nam doc mai seedling, so maybe that has some impact on growth control.

You're not feeding it any nitrogen right?

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Not sure about socal, but in south florida, you absolutely don't want to feed them nitrogen unless the goal is a big shade tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Iguanas
« on: August 18, 2023, 11:23:39 AM »
It's like rats (and tree rats aka squirrels): while they are firmly established, it is possible to maintain a localized area of very low population density using appropriate control methods (traps, air rifles, etc).

I don't mind the iguanas chewing on leaves. What I do mind is them creating extensive burrows just behind my seawall and the eventual 5 figure cost to replace it.

It's absolutely incredible how proficient they are at digging through the toughest of soil conditions. Those little claws can dig out a trench in limestone rubble / builder's fill faster and easier than I can with a plethora of digging tools at my disposal.

For those who don't have concrete structures (pool decks, seawalls, etc) at risk of being destroyed, it's really quite cool to see those dinosaur looking creatures in the landscape.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Iguanas
« on: August 17, 2023, 09:09:21 AM »
22 cal air rifle. Just make sure it's permitted to use them in your city (City of Ft Lauderdale has a prohibition on them). Hit them right behind the eye for instant kill. Break barrels are the most affordable and easiest to use, just need to practice how to hold them cause the kickback can cause inaccurate shots.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCbtpvE3wMmfVjmpW5yO1YMQ

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Try CENTA or ENA (the two ag schools)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Pruning Recommendation Needed
« on: August 08, 2023, 07:31:22 PM »
Depends. Do you want to be able to walk underneath it?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: August 08, 2023, 12:39:41 PM »
There's certainly a lot of labor involved in harvesting, pruning, weed control, etc. But even at $4 / pound, you're looking at like 80k+ gross revenue per acre.

Think I've been paying $4 - $5 per lb this year.

Gotta wonder, what are homegrown mangoes costing me? Trees + supplies = ???   ...and then time, at hourly rate = expensive mangoes. Damage/cost will come down with time, as more trees become more productive, but don't think there is such thing as a free mango much these days.

What a great season this year has been though, WOW! Almost mangoed out, but not quite. Gonna pick some up this weekend. The best thing has been the wide variety and taste testing new ones, along with plenty of my favorites. 

Time to prune, graft, and prepare for next season.

What are people planning on adding/grafting, based upon performance and quality this season?

Adding more Ceci Love and Carioca here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: August 08, 2023, 12:33:06 PM »
It's legal in Tamarac, but I know Fort Lauderdale has a prohibition on firing air rifles within the city. Obviously one must use due caution.

Yes, I had the same problem. Golden Queen is another that they seem to enjoy, as well as Florida Hass avocado. They can end up destroying most of the crop. And they cause damage to the house (they were chewing through the foam and furring strips under my tile roof). Air rifles are the best defense. A shot to the head or upper chest will instantly take them out.

I've lost about 30 OS to squirrels. 5 of my largest ones just yesterday. They aren't even ripe. They take a bite or two and then leave them there to taunt me, drives me nuts!
I had a question about air rifles, but Google answered it for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: August 07, 2023, 09:06:54 AM »
Yes, I had the same problem. Golden Queen is another that they seem to enjoy, as well as Florida Hass avocado. They can end up destroying most of the crop. And they cause damage to the house (they were chewing through the foam and furring strips under my tile roof). Air rifles are the best defense. A shot to the head or upper chest will instantly take them out.

I've lost about 30 OS to squirrels. 5 of my largest ones just yesterday. They aren't even ripe. They take a bite or two and then leave them there to taunt me, drives me nuts!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Alano vs Makok Sapodilla
« on: August 05, 2023, 09:33:07 AM »
if you want a smaller sap, I'd go with silas woods. I like the taste better, and it's extremely productive. I think both alano and silas are seedlings of makok.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon Orange zest mango
« on: July 30, 2023, 12:47:53 PM »
I have a feeling it's a clonal orange sherbet seedling. The tree and fruit in her video look characteristic of OS. The season lines up too. I have 2 fruiting clonal OS seedlings myself.

Lemonish- Its a new Mango variety from Truly Tropical. Looks like orange sherbert and same season. never tasted.
She did call it "Lemon-esh" in her video, but I think Lemonish sounds better.  It might be a little later than Orange Sherbet.  It sounds interesting and worth sampling, if not growing.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2023 Mango Season
« on: July 30, 2023, 12:44:58 PM »
Well holy smokes, $8 / pound. That's nuts. It wasn't that long ago that she sold for $2 / pound. Inflation has hit the trop fruit industry pretty hard. I remember when you could get fruiting jaboticaba trees for around $30 at zills and when a quarter acre of land was $25k. So much has changed.

I made a trip to Truly Tropical, Delray Beach, today to see what was still available.  Chris had just picked a box of assorted mangos and was selling them for $8 a lb.  God bless her that she has customers at that price point, but when you're on social security like me, no can do.  She still must have a passion for what she's doing because she could easily sell that property in one of the most desirable neighborhoods in South Florida and retire a wealthy woman. Walter had a sign "Closed on Saturdays."  ???  Then I remembered that the Zill family are Seventh-Day Adventists.

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