I have seen some good producing incarnatas in the brush in Rutherford county but that was years ago. Don shadow has some at Shadow nursery , in Winchester, that are quite prolific. He has a bunch planted right at the entrance, very beautiful flowers.I'm from Winchester...I need to get down and pay ol' Don a visit!
At this point across my 2 vines, I have a total of 4 fruits set - 3 on the white vine and one on the Purple.
I was really excited a few weeks ago when it seemed like every flower was being pollinated (by bees, not me). But since then, I've had dismal fruit set.
The flowers are constantly visited by bumble bees but I'm still not getting fruit set. I have also hand- cross-pollinated a few and still no luck.
Do maypops (or passiflora in general) have a "self-sterility" switch that somehow they flip to prevent additional fruit set, if it thinks it can't support it? or maybe because these are young vines (just put them in the ground in May), they are not capable of a high fruit set?
Just kind of frustrating to have all these blooms (and boy, do I have them) and no fruit.....
I think I am going to set up an area in the garden to sink large pots for my wild collected P. incarnata's. I need a way to make harvesting the fruit easier so some sort of trellis with the plants in large sunken pots should work. Out of all of them that I grow these guys have the best flavor.
Interesting on the reduced good flowers late in the season. I wonder if there were actual recorded trials for this. Not that I have any better information.
My maypop had pretty good fruit set without manual pollination. More than 50% I would say. Insects probably helped there. Fruit set was generally better at the peak of the season for me since there were more flowers to attract more insects. Early and late season weren't as good. Fewer flowers...
I think they take a couple of months to ripen. I seem to remember September being the month I normally start eating them. Because my vines are growing all over the garden (which is full of long rows of various fruiting bushes) I don't always stay on top of the passion fruits. I usually see them lying on the ground when I mow the grass strips running between the rows. I did notice a few thumb tip sized fruits forming this weekend.
I also think that they only seem to make fruit after the summer equinox. I think the fruits forming now take a while to ripen but the fruits formed later seem to ripen quicker so that everybody gets ripe by first frost in late October/early November.
Did it bear fruits? how do they taste? How if compared to P.edulis? Somewhere I read that also P.caroluea are edible, i tried, but I spit them....they had a terrible acid and bitter flavourHello!
My parents scoop the pulp into a blender with some water and honey. The blender breaks the seeds and the meats float to the top, shells to the bottom. It's very good, but I don't remember how tart it was to eat out of the fruit. Less tart than edulis I think.
I have the same problem with any Passionvine I grow in a pot.
Mine tastes like pineapple and banana. More sweet than P. edulis.
If better than P. edulis I wonder why it's not commercialized ?!
Also has been mentioned that the per-fruit edible yield is low on P. incarnata.Yes, and it requires pollination, unlike some edulis strains.
Good point about self-sterility of incarnata.Also has been mentioned that the per-fruit edible yield is low on P. incarnata.Yes, and it requires pollination, unlike some edulis strains.
Also, it is susceptible to caterpillars.
For certain people like my parents, they stay away from edulis because of the "smelly socks" aroma. That's just a matter of taste preference. Now they stay say from all passiflora after eating too many.
I've always sown the seeds in the fall and looked for sprouts the following summer - let winter do the hard work. Sometimes they sprout earlier and sometimes later. There is always a crowd of pots off in the corner of my garden during the winter. Even though I have a greenhouse where I sprout and root all sorts of plants, I find that winter hardy plants do better if allowed to sprout the normal way rather than speed things up in the heated gh - in the end you end up weak plants.
Yep. This winter I'm taking out part of my long blackberry row to make room for a Maypop trellis. All my gardening friends think I am crazy. Which may be true, but not about passionvines.
I think a bigger market would be with the medicinal herb folks. I don't know if it is the dried flowers or leaves or roots but there is a demand for P. incarnata plant parts.
How cold-resistant is Maypop? Is it like P. caraulea?I believe P. cerulea is even more cold-hardy than P. incarnata, but very close. I believe P. incarnata can withstand negative temperatures Fahrenheit. Google can tell you for sure.
I managed to find a slew of native passionfruits on a trip to southern Illinois not long ago. The vines were fairly prolific, and I kept a bunch of seeds. I would describe the flavor as tangy and citrus-y, but quite sweet with a floral note. Very tropical tasting - about the last thing I would expect from a plant growing right next to a soybean field.
If anyone is interested in trying to grow these things, let me know. Maybe we can arrange to trade for something.
I recently germinated several maypop seeds. How many years do they take to fruit?Congrats!
I purchased these seeds from Tradewinds fruit about a month ago. I am not sure if they were pre stratified. I kept them in an organic potting soil on a heating pad which is placed on top of a rule with a heater under it. I think that the extra heat really helped. I was also able to germinate a few seeds of Passiflora quadrangularis. They were packed for 2016 so maybe freshness was a success factor?Interesting! How long did it take to see shoots emerge?
The seeds sprouted in a little over a month.I purchased these seeds from Tradewinds fruit about a month ago. I am not sure if they were pre stratified. I kept them in an organic potting soil on a heating pad which is placed on top of a rule with a heater under it. I think that the extra heat really helped. I was also able to germinate a few seeds of Passiflora quadrangularis. They were packed for 2016 so maybe freshness was a success factor?Interesting! How long did it take to see shoots emerge?
I purchased these seeds from Tradewinds fruit about a month ago. I am not sure if they were pre stratified. I kept them in an organic potting soil on a heating pad which is placed on top of a rule with a heater under it. I think that the extra heat really helped. I was also able to germinate a few seeds of Passiflora quadrangularis. They were packed for 2016 so maybe freshness was a success factor?
After a flash-stratification of five weeks, I have a handful of P. incarnata seeds planted in potting soil on a toasty (~75 F) heating pad. I'll let you know if anything's happened by January 30th.
Nice!
I don't see why you couldn't plant them out this Spring. Definitely not until there is zero danger of frost. This is not based on experience, just my thoughts.
I finally sowed 6 seeds I kept from a fruit off my white maypop vine. They have been in the fridge in moist whole sphagnum since September 25.
3 I sowed right out of the fridge and 3 I soaked overnight. I have them in a flat with heating mat. Temp is 77 degrees. Will keep folks posted.
It dawned on me that I don't know what color flowers these will have if they sprout. I only had one white vine so they would've been pollinated by a purple vine ...
Wellllll those seeds i planted got cooked by the heat mat I think. I went back and measured the soil and it was something like 95 degrees. I am gonna keep these around to see what happens but my expectations are low.
I am starting some new seeds today.
Question for sildanani and googer - did you pre-soak your seeds?
Question for sildanani and googer - did you pre-soak your seeds?
I soaked them for 24 hours in warm water prior to planting them.
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A regular fluorescent shop light will work well for seedlings . You just need to keep the plants as close to the bulbs as you can. I use one for growing seedlings with good results. Just rig up an easy way to move the lights or the plants.
Good luck and keep up the good work
Googs,
This first batch of yours - were they all subjected to the high heat?
I have 12 other seeds in another tray that are about a week old, maybe a little more. They are being kept at mid 70's temperature, and so far there is no sign of life at all.
It's hard to be patient but I know sildanani said hers took a month to sprout. I think this is fairly common at these temps. Very interesting to me that the high temps were not lethal to these seeds and instead induced very fast germination.
The leaf shape seems consistent with the trident-shape maypop leaves have.
Could be. They come up when the weather is warm enough here. The stems come from pretty deep underground, like 6-10 inches. I know this having dug up plants to give away. They will grow more shoots there later.
They can pop up several feet away.
Any thoughts on whether I should cut the flowers (spent ones and forming ones) on these vines?
They are only 3 months old and some have already set (and I pollinated) 2 flowers.
Vegetative growth seems to have drastically slowed. Now that they're in the ground, however, I'm not sure what they'll do. Not sure they'd even hold fruit at this age anyway.
The goal for these particular vines is to cover a fence and flower as much as possible. Probably a tall order for their first year (?)
Crazy that you got flowers so early. Mine show no sign of producing buds yet, but that could change when I put them in the ground at long last this weekend. Flowering and fruiting is extremely energy-intensive on a plant, so if you're trying to get a large, healthy plant that can cover a fence, then you've made the right call in pruning flowers.
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Just planted some maypop seedlings in 4b, should be interesting if the summer is long enough for them to fruit and if the winter does or doesnt kill them.
I always assume that if they drop, they are ripe. The seeds have to be colored up, if they are white then there is usually little flavor. Some people like them heavily wrinkled and others eat them with only a little bit. I'm not sure there are any hard and fast rules. My P. edulis is in full swing so right now that is what I am eating. The fruit comes in waves and there is enough to make a juice from or drizzle over fruit salad. I've got to figure out a way to grow a ton of these.
The Passiflora incarnata is self fertile plant or she needs a pollinator and who is the best pollinator for her ?
My Maypop died over winter! All of my Zone 7+8 plants were just fine, pretty disappointed. If anyone has seeds this year from some decent fruit I'd love to buy them :)
That’s awesome! Nice job.Does that mean they emerge in May (maypop) and flower within the same month? We lack the heat here, so it would be normal that we are later but that is awfully quick!
I would say here they start flowering in mid-May.
Though I will say I have not fertilized as I should. I found they respond well to fish emulsion/fertilizer. This year I used Miracle Gro All Purpose on the seedlings and they didn’t seem to like it.
Sounds interesting, keep us updated. I will let mine grow freely, now that it finally does grow.
I’m currently interested in figuring out how to maximize fruiting via pruning or training. I have a theory that if you can train to a single runner, this is ideal. Wondering if pruning all side growth from leaf axils will help further or harm. I waited too late to try training a long runner but am trying to keep most side growth pruned over the last couple weeks.
Nice looking, familyJ!Yes this is a hybrid i have 4 different hybrids i am currently growing and then the 2 normal's with one red fruit and the normal yellow
Is that a hybrid? That looks almost exactly like my Iridescence and Casanova vines .....
Cool! I have all green or yellowish green fruits. I hear P. caerulea has orange/red fruits when ripe but I believe they’re inferior to incarnata.Nice looking, familyJ!Yes this is a hybrid i have 4 different hybrids i am currently growing and then the 2 normal's with one red fruit and the normal yellow
Is that a hybrid? That looks almost exactly like my Iridescence and Casanova vines .....
The problem i have is the yellow variety needs to be sprayed with BT often or i always lose themCool! I have all green or yellowish green fruits. I hear P. caerulea has orange/red fruits when ripe but I believe they’re inferior to incarnata.Nice looking, familyJ!Yes this is a hybrid i have 4 different hybrids i am currently growing and then the 2 normal's with one red fruit and the normal yellow
Is that a hybrid? That looks almost exactly like my Iridescence and Casanova vines .....
I’ve been mourning the last couple days because one of my mature vines with several fruits seems to suddenly be dead - fruits and leaves shriveling up as if the vine had been cut. However, no sign of damage that I can find.
How big or mature do these vines need to be before they produce fruit? I bought a small vine from the nursery about 2 or 3 months ago. I have replanted it into a bigger and deeper pot. The pot is a little bigger than a 6gal paint bucket. It has grown 2x longer/bigger. The main stalk is about 1/2'' think.
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From my experince in growing about 7 different kinds that can be true to some of them but other varieties need that extra careHow big or mature do these vines need to be before they produce fruit? I bought a small vine from the nursery about 2 or 3 months ago. I have replanted it into a bigger and deeper pot. The pot is a little bigger than a 6gal paint bucket. It has grown 2x longer/bigger. The main stalk is about 1/2'' think.
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In my experience, there is no maturity requirement - they fruit for me in first season from seed.
Not really a magic size in my experience either. I think the plant just has to be happy, and that means as much sun as you can possibly give it (6 hours minimum), proper water levels (I think drier is better) and adequate nutrition. I have come to conclusion that they don’t like chemical fertilizers. I have had best luck with fish emulsion or organic granulated like Holly Tone. I have also had limited success with pots. I have had fruit on potted vines but they much prefer being in the ground.
Out of all that I think sun is the most important.
Also you may have a risk of too much pot. They don’t need that much room at a young age. You also run greater risk of overwatering and root rot. I’ve had flowers on vines in 4 inch pots. I think constricted roots may actually promote flowering but not sure.
Good luck!
Mine tastes like pineapple and banana. More sweet than P. edulis.
Mine tastes like pineapple and banana. More sweet than P. edulis.
I got to taste one fruit from my vine, I got seeds from gooner 2-3 years ago from his wild collected fruits. And it does taste like pineapple(less banana) or maybe a virgin pinacolada with little drop of acidity so very nice to eat out of hand! no need to add sugar or honey, but my vines are small so maybe later the sweetness will be higher.. Sorry forgot to take a photo..
I am excited nonetheless. Passion fruit and Switzerland aren't two words that usually go toghether.
I selected this one for outstanding blooms.
Kevin
When I first saw your garden tour I thought to myself "Wow those flowers look really similar to the ones on that weird vine I saw growing in the field. Maybe they're related." I didn't even know what a maypop was until I looked it up. It's crazy there's delicious native fruit growing in the wild that I've never heard of. I think I'll try cultivating them myself.