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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold hardy australian plants
« on: August 23, 2019, 11:06:59 AM »
Eucalyptus gunnii is the most cold hardy Aussie tree, also maxing out at zone 6. It can be tapped to produce something akin to maple syrup. As for fruit, not much in the way of cold hardy things - Tasmanian mountain pepper (T. lanceolata) can withstand some cold. I imagine some of the flax lilies would too. Quandong and Aristotelia could maybe handle a light frost. A lot of the more southerly species from aromatic genera could probably handle a little cold. Pineapple grass can handle cold, but the berry is less than desirable. Bunya pines can handle a light frost.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Insane ,,pest,, control
« on: August 14, 2019, 06:21:42 AM »
I'm sure in Romania that Asian carp have been found to beneficial; Asian carp refers to a number of species, of which some are native to the region, and so the ecosystem has co-evolved around them. In places like North America and Australia, where Asian carp are considered noxious pests, they are not native, and the ecosystem is not able to keep equilibrium with them. There is no need to compare the work of the US and Romania, I'm sure both have their good sides and down sides, but to dismiss Asian carp as an environmental threat in these regions is to overlook significant amounts of genuine research.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Insane ,,pest,, control
« on: August 13, 2019, 07:53:46 PM »
This kind of pest control had been banned in Australia for a long time because we couldn't stop it from being used by native animals like dingos, but recently a modification to the design based on the jaws of the fox so only they can use it has been made. This would make it a very precise and effective way of dealing with such a ecologically damaging pest.

I think with most methods of pest control, there are some places/conditions where it will work and others where it won't, and it is a matter of use/abuse.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Top 5 favorite fruits (including non tropicals)
« on: August 07, 2019, 11:45:21 PM »
At the moment, my top 5 are (Assuming top quality fruit):

1) Mango
2) Mangosteen
3) Tangelo or Dekopon
4) Peach
5) Sapodilla or Date

Have only placed 1 thing from each genera, otherwise after 1), everything would be Garcinia. Rankings may change depending on mood.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting common fig (Ficus carica) on cluster fig (Ficus racemosa) possible ????
« on: August 07, 2019, 07:56:35 PM »
I don't have experience with grafting these together, but I imagine this will not work as they are from different subsections of ficus, and graft incompatibility has been shown across different subsections in the past. However, there is still the possibility, since I remember a discussion here about a nematode resistant rootstock for F. carica that was from a different subsection. Best way to find out is to try!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit trees with the shortest lifespan?
« on: July 25, 2019, 08:26:56 PM »
Tamarillos, Papayas & Babacos, Passionfruit (though they are a vine), Banana, Inga sp (Ice cream bean)? Should be noted that a short lifespan here is between 3 & 30 years, and maybe the tree can still survive, but is in poor form.

A large portion of fruiting things that aren't trees have relatively short lifespans - i.e. watermelon, strawberries etc.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangifera Indica is a myth
« on: July 11, 2019, 09:30:09 PM »
It's best to use a combination of both fossils and DNA, because DNA is very useful in getting a distinct picture of the way the genes have travelled, (for instance look at the history of Castanospermum australe in Australia), but can get murky if there has been a lot of travel and mixing, and wild related populations are gone. In this case, fossils provide a useful platform which can be used with the DNA to show the place of origin by tracing gene age with fossil age to gain the travel direction of the domesticated plant.

Anyhow, the species epithet 'Indica' has been applied to many species not originally from India, such as Canna indica, Opuntia ficus-indica and Tamarindus indica, so even if it isn't from India, it doesn't mean the name is incorrect.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What type of fruit tree is this ?
« on: June 29, 2019, 04:58:23 AM »
About as edible as dirt

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can caper berries be eaten fresh?
« on: June 20, 2019, 09:12:28 PM »
I don't know about the mediterranean caper, but the capparis species native to Australia all produce raw edible fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Finger Lime Culture
« on: May 28, 2019, 08:16:49 PM »
Quote from: pvaldes on May 28, 2019, 06:13:02 PM
UPDATE. A couple of lime finger misteries solved.

1) The 60g fruits is not a myth. Lime fingers definitely can make much bigger fruits. I had seen one last weekend, in the middle of a shrub loaded with standard fruits. More than double of the standard width.

2) I did some research about the strange RodneyS plant with leaves very different from Microcitrus australasica. Definitely NOT the common australian finger lime...

Quote from: RodneyS on August 16, 2013, 09:18:04 PM
I was given an Australian Finger Lime from a friend.  I belive it's the green kind.  Can't wait to try those citrus pellets


... BUT, can be still a finger lime.

Probably one hybrid from the species Citrus wintersii (formerly called Microcitrus papuana). If that, RodneyS could expect mint-green finger lime fruits with whitish green crystals.

This reminds me of some of the hybrids that have been developed, like the red-centre lime and the sunrise lime

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mangoes seeds that breed true.
« on: May 26, 2019, 11:11:14 AM »
Some mangoes breed true whilst others don't due to the presence of polyembryonic seeds, which is governed by a single dominant gene. Both polyembryonic seeds and mono-embryonic seeds contain the zygote or 'child' resulting from pollination, but polyembryonic seeds also contain a number of clonal embryos of the mother plant. When you plant a polyembryonic seed, you will get multiple seedlings, one of which is the zygote (which won't breed true), the rest are clones of the mother tree (which will).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A very Strange Mutant Dragonfruit.
« on: May 25, 2019, 12:49:09 AM »
Bizarre. I wonder if it will stabilise as it grows or will continue to grow monstrously.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Need fruit ID please and thank you
« on: May 07, 2019, 03:16:31 AM »
Can you cut it in half?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What's your least favorite fruit and why????
« on: May 03, 2019, 07:30:36 AM »
[Deleted - Irrelevant now]

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: davidson's plum wanted
« on: April 26, 2019, 09:51:11 PM »
Usually pretty easy to tell as infertile seeds are different size. Does well in subtropics, but don't know about frost tolerance. I will go looking for Jerseyana, but not sure will find fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: davidson's plum wanted
« on: April 26, 2019, 02:51:44 AM »
I checked the trees near me, and one has a fair few off-season fruit (they do tend to kinda fruit most of the year anyways). Depending on how many seeds you need, I can get some for you. This one is J. pruriens, which is the bigger species.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Finger Lime Culture
« on: April 25, 2019, 07:11:51 AM »
Either your kumquats are massive or you guys in the US have really poor finger lime genetic material. Most finger limes I see over here are around double the size of a kumquat, and that's not limited to one or two varieties.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: davidson's plum wanted
« on: April 24, 2019, 02:05:02 AM »
It's off season right now in Aus, though there may be a couple of fruit around. What species were you after? pruriens or jerseyana? (johnsonii is vegetative only)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Black Star Surinam Cherry (Eugenia Uniflora)
« on: April 17, 2019, 01:21:28 AM »
A very unlikely, but possible scenario (if you are grafting it) is that you could form a graft chimaera. This is when the rootstock grows through the scion material so that both the scion, rootstock and an intermediate form can be present in the canopy. Creates some really weird plants, but extremely rare.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Kadsura fruits
« on: April 16, 2019, 05:57:39 AM »
Jared the Weirdfruitexplorer did a review on one of these a while ago:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jb2RvX3vVs.

He says it is tasty. Doesn't look like there is much flesh to each segment, but it's a fairly large fruit overall. Probably a bit of effort to eat.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB:Chrysophyllum imperiale seed
« on: April 09, 2019, 07:08:12 PM »
I may be able to get seeds around December.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Mexican Garcinia seeds
« on: March 31, 2019, 02:57:34 AM »
Did you ever again find that tree with the unusual bronze fruit?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to get Monstrea to fruit?
« on: March 23, 2019, 11:01:16 PM »
I know of a monstera that grows on a rocky cliff next to the ocean. Full sun, no wind protection, salty, very hot. It still produces heaps of fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge leaved tropical fruit trees and edibles.
« on: March 21, 2019, 09:40:12 PM »
At absolute coldest, it gets to about 7c (45f) and don't get frost, but I think it could probably tolerate slightly cooler conditions as well, it's really more subtropical than tropical in nature.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Huge leaved tropical fruit trees and edibles.
« on: March 21, 2019, 09:01:44 PM »
I don't grow any of these (except C. imperiale), but they tickle my fancy...

Clavija sp. (This one is C. domingensis).


Garcinia magnifolia


Now that's a giant banana, and they get even bigger! (Musa ingens)


Chrysophyllum imperiale


Some of the Coccoloba sp. also get giant leaves.

Then there's things more well known like breadfruit & papaya, as well as things with big leaves that are pinnate, like Diploglottis australe

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