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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrica rubra
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:32:41 PM »
This year I let one rootstock root into the ground through the pot while upping the other 2 to 5gal before grafting. Interestingly, the one in the ground did not take any grafts. It did make a really strong sucker that pushed the main trunk almost flat to the soil line. The grafts were already failing before the sucker took over. I guess I should graft onto the sucker and see how that does. The other rootstocks took 1 or 2 out of about 5 grafts. I hope the heat doesn't kill the grafts. Some grafts that pushed out earlier wilted. Yangmei grafts will push early and then die. The ones that are slower tend to have better chances of healing.


Of the 3 pieces that I got from you via Toan, I grafted onto Californica they did good for a bit, but eventually all failed. I think next time try the M. cerifera as rootstock.

if you live in Ca or Hi he can't ship to you, but at least you got some really good mangoes growing in your state already...

its funny that we in So Cal depending on location are seeing blooms now, few sets and dropping, horrible year due to warm winter and freezing March, warm cold warm cold and it continues.

The only ones I have doing good down here in Chula Vista are some Paul Thomson seedlings, Keitt, Edward, Peggy and Ewais. The rest have dropped fruit or are just starting to bloom.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surniame Cherry from Jim Neitzel
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:10:40 PM »
That looks great! The nicest thing about eugenias is they can tolerate some shade. I just put my surinam cherry seedling in the front yard where it's shady all the time. It was flowering this year before planting. I hope it will do so next year.

Yeah Fang,

Surinames do fine in the shade. This particular one only gets sun until about 1 in the afternoon.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surniame Cherry from Jim Neitzel
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:09:30 PM »
That's a nice size pitanga Mark, interesting that i was called smithii i know that Nelson Westree developed some varieties of pitanga too, I have one seedling named westree 369 that's black but not as big as your's!

I think they have a Westree at Quail Gardens that puts out black fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surniame Cherry from Jim Neitzel
« on: June 13, 2018, 07:08:03 PM »
Hi Mark, I would love to get some seeds from that if you are willing to send to FL.  I have another black Surinam Cherry from Adam that is on the verge of fruiting, so I would love to grow both and compare.  Thanks, Nate

Hi Nate,

The tree doesn't have much fruit right now. But I will keep you in mind.



Tropical Fruit Discussion / Surniame Cherry from Jim Neitzel
« on: June 12, 2018, 11:15:41 PM »
Jim, said he bought this tree at Walter Andersons nursery in San Diego some 20 years ago and said it was labeled as Eugenia Smithii, I know there is not a species "Smithii" so it must be a variety. The leaves are thicker and bigger than any other Unifloras I've come across. The fruit is large and are black as "black star' and "Zill's dark". The taste at maturity does not have any resinous or bad after taste.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jim Neitzel passing away
« on: June 11, 2018, 01:30:29 AM »
Big Sister is one I've been looking for. I've had Sabor for many years but only just grafted Big Sister a month ago. Thanks for the pictures.


I'm glad you have those ones. I think some of the original trees are gone now.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jim Neitzel passing away
« on: June 10, 2018, 05:22:01 PM »
Jim, with one of his varieties.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cainito fruit set photo in San Diego
« on: June 08, 2018, 03:57:28 PM »
This is a friends tree near me, it is grafted and we haven't tried the fruit yet. Mine formed marble sized fruits but fell off in winter. It may be because it is a different variety not as cold tolerant as my friends tree.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria guaquiea
« on: June 08, 2018, 03:06:12 PM »
I have a one foot tall one in a tree pot.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cainito fruit set photo in San Diego
« on: June 07, 2018, 11:17:19 PM »
Here is finally a good photo of some Cainito fruit set in San Diego

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jim Neitzel passing away
« on: June 07, 2018, 11:15:33 PM »
Jim, with friends

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jim Neitzel passing away
« on: June 05, 2018, 06:46:12 PM »
When Jim was unable to care for his plants last time he was in the hospital, he had me take a bunch of his "promising" seedlings to care for. One of them is a peach he grew from seed which fruited and is worth propagating, and also a giant softball size guava that fruited last year. He just asked me last week to make some airlayers of the guava.

So, I guess we will carry on his legacy with some new fruit from him. I think we should name the huge guava "Big Jim Guava", and we'll need to think up a name for the excellent peach seedling.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Jim Neitzel passing away
« on: June 04, 2018, 05:52:00 PM »
For those of you who knew Jim Neitzel and all he did for the rare fruit  community, it was sad to hear he passed away this morning. Jim was a big inspiration to me and i'm sure thousands of others in pursuing this rewarding hobby.

He developed so many great varieties of fruit. Some of you may heard of the "Big Jim" loquat along with many other loquats that haven't been widely recognized. Also he did a lot of work with cherimoyas and produced some great ones. At his place he has some amazing macadamias, and hundreds of other seedling fruits that deserve to be shared. He also worked with Paul Thomson in developing some of the pitahayas we enjoy today.

I'm sure there will be more folks that have great things to say about Jim and how he affected them.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Mango season 2018
« on: June 03, 2018, 11:12:34 PM »
I just cut into the Rajapuri Mango and wow, what an unexpectedly delicious mango. A friend of mine also purchased a box of Rajapuri and reported to me that they were ok but nothing special so I wasnít expecting much from them. When I cut open the fruit, I was immediately hit with a Mango perfume that Iíve never experienced before. The smell is like a combination of Guava, Passionfruit, Peach and a tiny hint of Indian resin.

The fruit tasted very sweet, it tasted sweeter than the 19% Brix I got from the sample. This is a very complex flavored mango that I highly recommend if you need a break from regular mango flavored Mangos. This Mango was also extremely juicy. The cons are that the fruit was slightly bruised in shipping, one side of the Mango was flattened and softer than the rest of the Fruit. The fruit also had a slight amount of fiber, less than a Haden.

This is the first fruit Iíve eaten and Iím eager to see if the other fruit are as good. My friend may have selected the box with more but smaller fruit and perhaps those werenít as ripe?
Hereís a picture



I also got to try the Rajapuri mango, we ate it a little soft, but it was just as you described, I loved the piney taste. I have one more that is hard now so I'll try it at a different stage.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: looking for Ethan Moses..
« on: June 03, 2018, 07:17:52 PM »


Looking to buy about 30 scions of Imam Pasand mango. Need them about pencil or sharpie marker size.



Or you could just plant it flat and growth will come out all along the piece.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Visiting Hawaii - Recommendations?
« on: May 31, 2018, 11:51:29 PM »
Last time I was at Frankies, Lynn wouldn't pack them for USDA so I just bought the plants and barerooted them at the USDA office at the airport. The people were real nice, they even supplied me with a bucket of water and newspapers and inspected the plants. I hope they are still helping out. After they passed them I packed the plants in a plastic tote and they tagged it. I got some nice unusual lychees, wax jambus and cainito.

Hi Mark, have you or anyone you know in our area(san diego county) had any fruit yet?? i have one in my front yard about 3 years from a 5 gal. no fruit or bloom   yet.                      Patrick

Hey Patrick,

No flowers or fruit yet.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: May 31, 2018, 12:09:51 AM »
I don't know much about the Haughton variety, other than I think its one of the 2 parent varieties of the S-8 plant, but I do know that the S-8 Sugar Dragon variety, which your plant looks quite similar to, is self fertile, and a very good pollinator for all other varieties Ive heard of. Does this plant have a single thorn in most points, thick and woody, like a rose's thorn, not spiny like a traditional cactus? Darker green skin, but leaning a bit more towards a greyer green as opposed to more of a leafy, emerald green? Its kinda hard to get a scope of the overall plant from the closeup.

That's what I heard too!
I'm not sure about the thorn. I tried looking for the thorns but there's none left. But the plant itself is like what you described, green but leans toward the grey side.

I've got about 75% self pollination and self fertilization on my Houghton this year. If you pollinate with it's own pollen you will get nearly 100%. Good luck. You can save the pollen for a while in the fridge also.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wax Jambu anyone?
« on: May 28, 2018, 02:09:09 AM »
I recently bought a pair of missile wax jambu.
Hoping they do well in Florida

What's the name of the nursery you bought your missile wax Jambi from? Do you know if they ship to California?

Ong nursery in Linda Vista has about 40 varieties, most of them are airlayers from Florida, many from Maurice Kong.

I'm down near the Mexico border near the ocean and mine is 8 feet tall and never has problems throughout the year.

Mark, do you still have the Elaeagnus sp. (that's likely a hybrid with Goumi of some sort) I brought a few years back?  I'm curious how it's doing if so.  Here in the bay area it fruits heavily even in 2/3 shade and the fruits are much better than Goumi, sort of the size of a large grape and with minimal astringency.

Hey Barath,

Yes it is the same one and is doing real good. I couldn't remember where I got it. Thanks

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