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If you think it hurts to pull a Mineola try what I did.....I had to pull 200 citrus because of Greening in Kendall after having raised them for 14 years. I was the greatest citrus grower anywhere. I sprayed my trees every 2 weeks and yet all but 2 got the disease. Yes the Mineola needed a pollinator. Now I have 250 mango avocado and lychee. And 1 Temple thatís got Greening and this will be itís last season then Iíll pull it out after 17 years. And 2 Yosemite Gold hybrids from California about 15 years old that are somehow still beautiful and green and healthy. If you saw my present trees youíd know how perfect I took care of my citrus. IN MY OPINION THE SALE OF CITRUS TREES TO THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE AGAINST THE LAW BECAUSE THEY ALL GET GREENING WITHIN 5 YEARS. SO WHY TRICK THE UNKNOWING PUBLIC INTO BUYING TREES THAT ARE DESTINED FOR A QUICK DEATH. THE ONLY WAY TO GROW CITRUS NOW IS UNDER NETTING.

In Florida 80% of the citrus or more has greening? Who's tricking anyone? The new regimen is to fertilize year round and
a expect a lighter crop. For private people you can get more then enough fruit for you and your family? If your temple is producing
why pull it? Fertilize the hell out of it and enjoy the fruit you get? You won't get 300 oranges from a mature tree but you should still
get 90.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I am taking out my citrus trees in Miami.
« on: September 23, 2018, 08:54:42 PM »
I started out with 12 citrus trees and am down to 6. I am considering removing 1-2
more also. Citrus gets it's sweetness from cool weather so most of the tangerines and
satsumas ripen before we have any cool weather. Most of the time my fruit is still green
when it ripens. The fruit is tangy but never sweet. I have a kishu that the fruit is barely turning
orange now, it is soft and already getting a little dry. It has 200+ little seedless fruit every year.
It's the same fruit that comes out of California and they call sweeties and are sweet and 100%
better. I am trying to grow a Temple and a Ortanique now, this is the first year the ortanique
has held fruit and there is only 2-3. Both the Temple and the Ortanique are suppose to ripen
around February or March. The temple has 6 fruit also so this year I can try them for the first time.
All the juice oranges ripen around February or later also.
As far as the pests the Bayer that Coach62 recommends has imidacloprid in a very small dosage.
I tried not to use it this year but the leaf minors were destroying the new growth. The imidacloprid
lasts for 90 days. A citrus tree can have 3-5 flushes a year. Usually the leaf minors psyllid is not active
the first Spring flush which coincides with the bees pollinating. I broke down an applied it last month and
my newest flush looks great! Now I can't wait until the torn up leaves shed out. I have found the Bayer to
be ineffective and too low of a dose. I use Macho or Nuprid when I apply. I live next to many orange groves
I heard a new technique for fighting Citrus greening? Plant Asian Guava near the citrus. The psyllid that
carries the greening prefers guava and will lay it's eggs on the guava leaves and it doesn't effect the guava

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longan trees too close, what's next?
« on: September 21, 2018, 11:00:21 AM »
The Biew  Kiew I have eaten the seed was large and the kohala has much more flesh. My Biew Kiew
is a couple years old and only had a couple clusters with a few fruit. I found a tree this year in an abandoned
house on a river. It was loaded with huge fruit. I talked to the neighbor and he said the owner came by once a
week to mow and it took a month to finally talk to him. He thought it was a lychee and didn't know what type it is.
It had the biggest sweetest fruit I have ever eaten and he never waters or fertilizes it. He said every year it has fruit.
He also let me airlayer it and I think I was successful. My brother had a seedling and it never fruited over 10 years but
I have heard of people getting seedlings to fruit in 5? My longans did fine throughtout Irma and a 25' oak went down.
Allot of my trees were affected but not my longans? You never know where the little tornados are going to hit?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longan trees too close, what's next?
« on: September 20, 2018, 11:35:27 PM »
I am probably the wrong person to answer this because I like longans so much.
I would dig one up and put it in a separate place. Longans get huge and they need some space.
I would think if you dig a large rootball either tree should be fine but you could put the one you
dig up in a 7 gallon pot in the shade for a couple months.  A good longan will produce
allot of fruit and one tree could produce more then enough fruit. I had two kohalas produce heavy this
year and I was able to cut off clusters and give them to people and still had more then I could eat.I prefer
kohala over Biew Kiew. But I have a Biew Kiew also. They are suppose to fruit at different times but the
Biew Kiew is still small. Everyone I gave the kohalas really liked them. I have 5 trees and just airlyered an
unidentified tree so now I have 6 trees I may be the wrong person to give my opinion.

I have 7 types of mulberry trees and mine are doing the same thing now.
If you prune them throughout the summer you can get multiple crops. For me
they are they least demanding tree I have. I also put a ring of mulch around them
and I never water or fertilize them. Every spring they produce abundantly. I like them
allot except the Pakistan Black I have. It has crunchy non staining fruit that isn't
my favorite. I think you have the large leaf type and it produces large messy fruit.
The tree gets huge though. It has been my favorite the past two years. I have heard
people call it Tice or Shangri La I am not sure the correct common name. I don't prune
in the summer the later crops never seem to be as good?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jatropa
« on: September 19, 2018, 08:34:36 PM »
The old guy and my friend both had single trees and they produced.
I have never watered mine or fertilized them and they do fine. My friend
watered his tree and it was getting very large but he moved.

When I ate the seeds it reminds me of a large sunflower seed. Very tasty!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jatropa
« on: September 19, 2018, 05:43:10 PM »
Originally the seeds came from a tree an old guy has. He has eaten the nuts for years.
My friend planted a seed and I got a tree from his seeds. My friend also ate the nuts.
My tree produced nuts and I ate the seeds and also planted one. Now I have a small tree
from the larger tree. That's 4 generations and no sign of toxicity? My small tree produced in
one year so it won't take long to figure it out. Also my friend's tree was constantly raided by
squirrels and they didn't disappear. I don't have squirrels in my yard someone shot them.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Excalibur or PIN for fruit trees?
« on: September 12, 2018, 08:22:27 PM »
Is it true peach trees have a short lifespan in Florida?  (Nothing like a mango tree.)

I heard 10-12 years only.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What caused this Longan to die?
« on: September 12, 2018, 03:25:56 PM »
Was it given any fertilizer/pesticide recently?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Surinam Cherry Advice
« on: September 11, 2018, 01:06:58 PM »
I noticed an increase in production when I water more? I am watering every day now

Probably hard to see but I've been trying to get this to germinate for a while now... friday moved it to a window that gets full sun in the mornings instead of a window in my house that is tinted...and Bam! Germination!

You couldn't get them to germinate, now your gonna have 10,000 :)

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Side veneer vs side cleft
« on: September 09, 2018, 11:34:37 AM »
I just did 2 veneer grafts of Annona scions. I looked on youtube and watched
a few videos and it went real well? I learned allot from a video on cleft grafting.
It emphasized how you line up the cambium layers. If you have several scions and
rootstock you may opt to try different techniques?
Good Luck!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Peach tree update + pruning tips?
« on: September 07, 2018, 11:39:32 AM »

Yeah every year it flowers and fruits. I have never had it flush more than once though. I will remember that about the 6" apart.

If I prune in June will that give enough time for new growth to happen for next years crop? Since it only fruits on last years growth.

If you have any pictures of your peach tree I would love to see it! I have not seen many in Florida. Which I am surprised because these are the best peaches!

When you prune in May or June after the fruit is done if you feed the tree properly the tree will explode in growth.
If you read UF pruning techniques they are trying to promote the lateral branches. You will have branches that are
vertical and you want to cut them out. You are trying to make the tree grow sideways. These scaffold branches are
what have the blooms not the vertical straight branches. As we already discussed peaches are high maintenance trees.
I am putting manure on my trees every 2 weeks. I will get a couple pictures later on. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Peach tree update + pruning tips?
« on: September 07, 2018, 11:25:26 AM »
Better if this is discussed in the Temperate zone section.

Low chill peaches

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Peach tree update + pruning tips?
« on: September 06, 2018, 10:08:11 PM »
My trees sometimes get stressed from the heat and flowers during the summer. If fruit develops
from this summer bloom they also usually fall off. When the tree flowers in the Spring this is the
time to water and feed heavy to ensure a good crop. I am not sure what sunworshipper is talking
about but it may be colder in Oveido.  Why would you prune the tree when it blooms? You may choose
to thin fruit and I have heard to try to keep fruit 6" apart for the best quality. But the trees fully leaf
out while the fruit developes down here. It's much easier to prune in June when the fruiting season is over.

Another issue here is the lack of chill hours. The trees require chill hours but when the temps go above
70F the chill hours reverse and then we have an occasional cool front. Last year my trees flushed more then
one time in the spring. The fruit ripened at the same time. If there is a late frost while the tree is flushig the
fruit is in jeopardy but the tree usually flushes again. You are in the Cape and probably don't get 50 chill hours
a year let alone 50 continous hours. It's really amazing the trees produce at all. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Peach tree update + pruning tips?
« on: September 06, 2018, 07:51:57 PM »
There is good literature from UF about the proper way to prune a peach tree.
For maximum fruit production and fruit quality you want to cut the center trunk out and create an open canopy
Ideally you have four separate branches with the middle removed.

According to this literature ideally the tree would have an open canopy already. I would wait until
after the fruit season to prune. UF designed these low chill peaches but it is much cooler in Gainesville then
here. My trees rarely lose their leaves and receive the necessary chill hours yet these trees produce the best peaches
I have ever eaten every year! 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Peach tree update + pruning tips?
« on: September 06, 2018, 07:22:18 PM »
Next year's peaches will form on the new growth. If you prune now it may be too late
for new growth to form and you will get less peaches. I would continue to fertilize until
October 1st. Give the tree a few months off and water once a week. Then start fertilizing
next January/February heavy and the tree will flush and you should have a nice crop. Water at least 3 times
a week and fertilize heavy throughout the fruiting season. Then after you eat the fruit you can
prune heavy around June. Then your tree will really take off and you should have allot more new
growth for the following year's crop.

So prune next June after the fruiting season. I remember that tree and it looks fantastic now!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds available
« on: September 05, 2018, 11:35:22 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Doing my first graft this week (Avri loquat)
« on: September 02, 2018, 10:02:50 PM »
My Avri loquat graft was a success. It's growing well.

Congratulations !
Did you graft the scion to rootstock in the ground or plant later. I also did a graft
after you kindly gave me SoCal's info and my graft took for about a month and failed.
I was giving the graft a couple hours of morning sun only and wondered if that was the cause?
It pushed some leaves and looked great and then it collapsed. The rootstock was in a one gallon

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds available
« on: August 31, 2018, 05:18:49 AM »
Will it ship to Korea?

pm sent

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds available
« on: August 30, 2018, 08:57:39 AM »
Do you know how many chill hours the pistachio need to set fruit?  Where I live, a typical winter would be somewhere around 100-300 chill hours.  I was told that isn't enough for pitachio's.

pm sent

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Millipede in Jabo
« on: August 29, 2018, 05:45:51 PM »
I have a different millipede that has infested my place.
One year I had some seedling E calycina and repotted them.
I topped them with mulch and it turns out this millipede was in the mulch.
The millipede girdled the young seedlings and I lost every one of them.
As the millipede gets more and more established in my yard it is everywhere
including my mulch and compost. Be careful with young plants!

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds available
« on: August 29, 2018, 11:13:53 AM »
Just received my second batch of seeds. Once again an easy transaction and well packaged seeds.

My first batch of peanut butter fruit seeds are already hatching! Very pleased!

Thanks, achetadomestica!

Thanks and good luck!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: red hybrid jaboticaba
« on: August 24, 2018, 05:51:45 PM »
Once my trees started they have continued to produce for 2 years now.
Hopefully yours will do the same and you will get plenty of practice.
I like them best with some red. If you squeeze them a little you can feel when they are
firm and not quite ready. I usually eat a few skins also for the antioxidents and that
also has an unusual flavor much different then the flesh.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When to harvest Geffner?
« on: August 24, 2018, 08:22:06 AM »
I had a sugar apple lying on the ground this morning and a dream last night

Luckily I don't have any critters messing with them and I can let them ripen on the tree.
I check morning and night. The geffner has a subtle change of color and then it doesn't
take long. I have Lisa and they turn a pinkinsh color and then it doesn't take long. They also
start to soften and you can pick them and let them finish softening on the counter. Once they hit the
ground they are ready to eat and will spoil quickly. But look for the subtle color change and
the softening of the fruit. It's weird in the morning they are rock hard and next thing you
know they are soft. If you have noticed the color change pick the softest one and let it finish
on the counter. How many fruit do you have?

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