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Good work boys.

Heinrich, I'm glad that the shy-bearing Shinseiki still has honorary status on your soil.

The density of fruits are all around around that of water, such that about half of species float while half sink. At least according to this tricky quiz I found:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Lychees
« on: August 10, 2018, 03:33:56 AM »
After learning that seedling lychee trees can take 8-15 years to fruit, I was wondering what happens if you graft onto a mature tree? Flowers + fruits within 1-2 years as though part of a mature tree? Or does it keep a "memory".

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting avocado tree
« on: August 10, 2018, 03:24:37 AM »
I have kept a terribly rootbound Lamb Hass that is stunted and will not grow just so I can use it for scionwood. But is it possible that it will transfer the same growth habit over to a healthy seedling?

Drain the swamp and Loch her up!

I have raised that issue before ( and thought it was odd that there were no calyxes. Looking at the stem that they mixed in with grumichama foliage, it's clear that it's a Garcinia.

But Daleys are a good nursery. Ordered many items from them. They were just taking a short-cut with the photo. Anyway I ordered an orange grumichama from them 2 years ago, though it still has not fruited.

Good thinking SoCal2warm... because that is exactly what I did. My tree is Doyenne du Comice on Quince A rootstock. I remember reading about this good compatibility and desirable dwarfing result. The thing is, with limited space, I wanted more cultivars and so the tree is espalier and every level is a different cultivar. Beaurre Superfine, Red Williams and Josephene were grafted on levels above the Comice.

I think I am going to try Hosui nashi as the next level and let everyone know how it goes. My tree is quite slow-growing but that is a side-effect of maintaining a semi-dwarf.

According to
"Most Japanese pear varieties are dwarfed about 50% on P. communis rootstock"
and "[Nijisseiki/20th Century] should not be grown on P. Communis rootstock because it is badly dwarfed."

My question is whether there is a Nashi that is minimally affected by P. communis roostock. I want to graft onto a Josephine de Malines espalier. If that works, then the next year I guess I could do Nijisseiki on top of that, because the interstem should no longer dwarf it.
My last contingency would be to use a Chinese White Pear like Ya Li for an interstem, but they are bland from the description I've read.


Got an Inga bullata whose leaves went this brown color. I thought it might have been due to temps getting low at the beginning of winter, so I took indoors. But now I think it is in need of chelation perhaps?

Edit: It cannot be sunburn because here it is winter and was in part shade anyway.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Andaman islands Trip
« on: July 09, 2018, 11:47:11 PM »
There were two species of banana discovered on the Andaman Islands, both with seeds that readily germinate. One was sweet and sour and grew to 9m. The other was just very sweet with orange-coloured pulp on a stalk that grew to 11m! Obviously bunches are much bigger too.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My Zill adventure Tuesday
« on: July 06, 2018, 03:01:26 PM »
I would like to know whether Sugarloaf is monoembryonic or polyembryonic.

Hi Carlos.
Can you please upload some photos of your plant with mature fruit on it? You mentioned to me in the past that you are also growing it (along with 30 other cultivars).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Cambuca
« on: June 18, 2018, 07:38:51 AM »
Though I am not a fruit tree lover (more of a lustful exploiter) I think I know the answer.
I think intercompatibility exists with Plinia trunciflora as well as Plinia peruviana.
Rock in Taiwan insists that cambuca can also be grafted onto Plinia cauliflora (regular jaboticaba).
Since the taxonomy shake-up, Myrciaria is a separate genus populated only by cambui/tenella, blue jabo/vexator, guaquica, strigipes, yellow jabo...)

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Duguetia peruviana
« on: June 11, 2018, 03:23:45 AM »
Thanks. I take it D. peruviana is also a larger tree.
By the way, is phaseolioides the same as Duguetia phaeoclados?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fig trees
« on: June 08, 2018, 07:12:01 PM »
Good video on why Ficus palmata/carica hybrids are the solution for nematode-afflicted soils. And some cultivars like Hava and Digger's Purple Heart are extremely good tasting.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Duguetia peruviana
« on: June 08, 2018, 06:57:54 PM »
Please more info, compared with D. phaseosiades.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Two color Australian Grumichama
« on: June 04, 2018, 11:42:15 PM »
I knew Mike had a kick ass yellow grumichama, but I didn't know it was also a transvestite.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Syzygium bud to flower time
« on: June 02, 2018, 10:40:52 PM »
A lot of people dismiss this genus altogether, but I think Syz does matter.

Looks like we got ourselves a Hilocaust denier.

No 1st Amendment in your jurisdiction buddy.  ;D

KJ Pinks?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria/Plinia Guaquiea
« on: May 07, 2018, 04:54:14 AM »
Stevo, you really should have picked the username Steve T, and piggyback on the reputation of your co-germinal. You would command much more respect from these heathens.

Guaquica is rated very positively on this forum.
For instance, dreamfrutas wrote: "Myrciaria guaquiea, is one of the rarest of all fruits from the Atlantic Rain Forest. Until a few years ago the Guaquica was known only for old references, not even a picture of this species existed. It was mentioned as growing in the seashore of Rio de Janeiro state, in an area with big real state pressure and speculation, so the danger of extinction was really big. Initially we located only one tree, and over the last years I was able to locate a very few more.  The fruit is not only extremely rare, it is also delicious, sweet and fresh, with a complex flavor not plain at all."
Alexandre Neles wrote: "The fruit has a transparent pulp, like glazoviana Myrciaria, however has greater amount of pulp and very sweet. When you bite into the fruit it explodes in your mouth. Guaquica is better, save more pleasant, and does not have what I hate about glazoviana, forget and bite the peel is almost equal drinking perfume, bad taste. On the appearance of the trees, just clean the area with a hoe, fertilizer with manure, coffee straw, that photo to see some of my coffee trees, 2 x 150 g for years, NPK 05.20.20, without irrigation because I have 1490 mm of rainfall a year. In this way the plants grow more naturally, soon intend to take NPK, I will use only organic fertilizer.
Alexandre's tree can be seen here:
E-Jardim has a photo of fruit:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia ID please
« on: April 22, 2018, 11:42:19 PM »
Safe to say it's not E. uniflora.
Are you sure the fruit was ripe? My guess the fruit wanted to get a bit darker in color.
Could be a mutation. Another possibility is it is a hybrid of grumichama and a similar species like E. blastantha, E. ophthalmantha or E. itaguahiensis. Hybrids sometimes have quite different characteristics from both of the parents. I trust you have already asked the seed supplier.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: who grows Kwai Muk?!
« on: April 20, 2018, 04:04:11 AM »
My kwai muk appears to suffer branch die back. Though it is the older branches that are affected - not the newer. It's also happening at a strange time (middle of autumn/fall) and temps are still warm here.

Apparently one is monoembryonic while the other is poly. That might be a starting point. I'm guessing Maha Chanok and Rainbow are not synonyms after all.

Has anyone done this experiment? Regular pears normally sink, whereas apples float.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Blackberry Jam Fruit/Randia formosa
« on: April 09, 2018, 06:38:55 AM »
According to Helton Muniz the blackberry jam fruit (R. formosum) is hardy to -4C (25F), however this has not been my experience. Anyone in a cold climate able to confirm?

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