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In Florida I have a couple Chinese varieties and they are loosing leaves as usual this time
of year.

I have watched my bush flower now for 3 years and right now I have about 12 fruits holding for the
first time. I am not a real patient person. I was convinced I needed 2 for pollination but have been unsuccessful
growing another bush but will keep trying, hopefully with my own seeds! Is it just me or does everything I grow
taste better automatically. One advantage I see is it fruits in the fall. My grumichama, cor, pitomba all produce in
the spring.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona seedlings
« on: November 17, 2017, 07:31:55 AM »
I would say it depends on the initial root system. I had some push new leaves and I had some wither away.
I have one that reemerged with 2 trunks. I error on the safe side and keep them too long.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longan plant
« on: November 17, 2017, 12:00:41 AM »
Lots of water and I fertilize with rabbit manure and I mulch heavy and I constantly
add oak leaves. pine needles, coffee grounds and organic material. In our humid summer the
tree constantly flushes new growth. I have used synthetic fertilizer in the past and it cause
leave burn. During the winter I cut back on water 1-2 times a week. I have 2 Kohalas, 1 Sri champoo,
1 biew kiew, and 1 fortune eye. I believe these types need a dry cool winter for fruit set. The fortune eye
is a steady producer so far. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Longan plant
« on: November 16, 2017, 05:49:13 PM »
Along with taking a while to fruit the tree won't grow true from seed.
My brother planted a tree around 10 years ago and it hasn't fruited yet,
in the meantime try to get a tree that was air layered and/or plant out 20 seeds and
get some scions and try grafting. I have heard grafting is not easy?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia candolleana
« on: November 16, 2017, 03:45:19 PM »
Thanks fsanchez2000 for the good info. Is your soil high ph and you use Chelated iron?
I was using the wrong iron and thanks to the forum I should have the right iron now. I put some
on 2 weeks ago, so I should see the results soon.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: garcinia dulcis seeds available
« on: November 16, 2017, 01:57:00 PM »
Hey Joshua

I notice you say you are subtropical. How cold has that plant got? I live in 9b and was
hoping it could handle 30F?


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia candolleana
« on: November 15, 2017, 08:27:36 PM »
I have a bush still in a 7 gallon that is 3-4 years old. I got it when it was a seedling. It flowered
the past 2 years and is holding about 10 fruit now. I can't wait to try the fruit. About a year after I
got the seedling I bought 2 more 2' yearling trees and put them in the ground. They didn't thrive is
an understatement, They turned yellow and never did much. The first winter the trees shed their leaves
and one never came out of dormancy. The other tree I dug up last week. 3 years the tree was the same size.
It shed all its leaves and looks terrible now. I have seen pictures of beautiful 10 foot trees in peoples yards
and I really would like a couple in my yard. I had basically the same thing happen to a red jabo I put in
my yard. Meanwhile I have 3 red jabos in 15 gallon pots that have been producing nonstop since last summer.
For me I am going to bump up my candolleana in a 15 pot and wait, Hopefully I will have a few seeds to plant this fall
and I may try to put seedlings in the ground later. Does anyone have a large candoleanna in the ground in Florida?
If skhsn puts your tree in the ground please keep me posted. I personally wouldn't risk it. A 4-5 year old tree finally
producing, no way! I am still trying to figure out if it is the high ph or bright sun or both that is effecting Eugenia?

Would you ship to Florida 4-5 pounds? How much for shipping?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: When is sugar apple seeds a dud?
« on: November 10, 2017, 04:44:12 PM »
Great timing for this post
I have wanted to ask the forum about their experience germinating sugar apple seeds.
Earlier this year I received 10 Big Red Seeds in trade for 10 Na Dai seeds,  The member told me to
put them between damp paper towels and put in a baggie. After 4 days one germinated and within
2 weeks all 10 seeds had germinated and had emerged from the soil. I had gotten 25+ seeds from a
local fruit and tried to germinate them the same way. They took a little longer but within 4-6 seeks they
all germinated, Then I got the indigo seeds and 2 out of 7 germinated and the VSA I got 1 out of 8 to
germinate, and I tried to germinate a different red type and 1 out of 5 germinated but then 3 more germinated
after several months 4 out of 5 I can live with, I also had 0 out of 3 germinate out of a super large one?
I was thinking maybe it is later in the year but I tried to germinate 10 seeds from a Na Dai I produced and within 2 weeks
all the seeds germinated. All I can say is the seeds are still in damp paper towels and I keep checking them.
I am wondering why some seeds were so easy. I was under the impression all the seeds were fresh?

I am in humid sandy Florida and the ph is much higher then 6, maybe it is a little lower
being under the oak? I keep the tree with a ring of compost/mulch and I was using rabbit manure
last year, I can add some Canadian peat to lower the ph a bit. Does anyone know about the tip of the
branches dying off? When I had the tree in a pot it was doing that and when I put it in the ground it
quit last year. Then I had the white weevils chewing the hell out of the leaves.  This year the weevils
went somewhere else and the tree was looking really good with some new growth. Then Irma really
beat up the leaves and I see the tips dying again? I had flowers a couple years ago but not since, it is
probably 5'-6' but not very big crown. Thanks guys for any thoughts.

I put my tree under an Oak which seems perfect, a couple early morning hours of sun and the rest filtered.
How wet do you want to keep them and what ph is best. Also fertilizer schedule would be nice. Thanks for sharing
My tree's leaves are very dark green but the tips of the branches keep dying off and I didn't get much new growth this season.
Thanks Starling, the info you gave is the most detailed I have heard from anyone. Hey one last question can you grow them from
cuttings? I think Waxy could make a small fortune if you could grow your productive one from cuttings?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hard to find trees wish list
« on: November 08, 2017, 01:31:18 AM »
With a little effort I can find all the attemoyas I want.  We do have over 100 attemoya trees in four varieties.   As for attemoyas Iím pretty much just obsessed with Raulís Elite Attemoya at the moment.   Sugar Apples we are currently only into the firm fleshed varieties.  Iíve gone to most of the fruit tree sales.  I prefer to plant more than ten trees each variety. 

The problem is the two trees Iím looking for got no mention.  Ainít anyone got seeds?
Annona Salzmanii
Russellís Sweet Garcinia

Anyone else has anything they canít find?

Whatís up with this elite atemoya? Do you have a spare grafted tree?
I have never heard of grafted trees available. I got seeds earlier in the year and I have 2 seedlings,
I hope they grow true from seed?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is a leafless jaboticaba always dead?
« on: November 07, 2017, 09:31:45 PM »
When the branches are dry and brittle then you have a problem. As long as the
branches bend but not snap there is hope. 

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Is Akee fruiting somewhere now ?
« on: October 30, 2017, 10:28:14 PM »
I know a house about 25 minutes away and there are 3 trees there, a couple years ago
I was driving by and saw the bright red fruit on the trees and stopped and talked to the
owner. He was  Jamaican and loves the fruit. Today I was driving by there and noticed only
one tree had a couple fruit on it and they were pink not red, I assume they are not ripe?
The trees looked heavily pruned probably due to the hurricane and may have affected the
production this year?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: ID Mystery Plants Please
« on: October 27, 2017, 11:24:04 AM »
Eugenia Victoriana???

Sorry to hear you guys are getting no germination. I got 5 out of 5 to germinate. Maybe post methods that everyone is using to germinate.
I am curious what method you used to get 5 out of 5?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Jaboticaba U-Pick
« on: October 25, 2017, 12:21:36 PM »
There is at least one member of this forum that has devoted the space to have a small orchard of red jabos. So it seems
the value of the fruit is catching on. A U-pick is a huge under taking but remember people laughed at Walt Disney.
Maybe throw in the word Organic U-pick and...

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Vietnamese sugar apple
« on: October 24, 2017, 01:18:44 PM »
My first seed germinated using the damp paper towel method,
I can't wait to taste this variety!

I vote for Friday 17th

2 out of 7 between damp paper towels

so far

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: lisa or gefner atemoya ?
« on: October 22, 2017, 02:52:25 PM »
I own a Lisa and  I had a geffner that died. The Lisa had much larger leaves. The fruit
will tell later but it is too soon to tell by the fruit. I had 6 fruit earlier this year and
they looked similar to the picture before they ripened. Actually only 2 ripened and the others
were destroyed by Irma. Eventually the fruit turned a greyish pink color when it ripened.

It looks like a red jabo. I have 3 in 15 gallon pots and a couple years ago
I put a different tree in the ground in Florida and it went downhill. I ended up repotting it
and to this day it looks crappy. It has very yellow leaves and I have given it chelated
iron several times and it won't darken up. All my trees have burnt tipping on the leaves.
My three red jabos in the 15 gallon pots have produced fruit since last summer nonstop.
I pushed them under a tree more this year cause the leaves were getting light. I am so
happy with the almost constant supply of red jabos to eat. If I was you I would water it
a little more then every 3 days and increase the size of the pot. I am in Florida though and
if your trees are doing ok in ground then go for it. I assume our ph is not the same. I have
white sand for dirt and have very high ph, Hopefully someone in your area can tell you
their experiences with red jabo but I plan to leave my 3 in a pot, eventually I will put them in 25 gallons
pots next Spring. My soil has allot of perlite in the mix and drains well and I water very frequently.
I try to give my jabos morning sun and indirect sun in the afternoon. 

so how long before this fruits ?

i have 3 plants
the largest i moved to a 5gal container a couple of months ago
since then, its not put out any new growth
and the leaves look kind of droopy.

how much sun and water do they like ??

will they fruit OK in part shade ?
I bought 2 plants last year, one was a cutting that is from last year and the other is a seedling
from last year. The cutting fruited real heavy earlier in the year and I got over 75 fruit. I planted it
under a large tree and it gets only a little direct sunlight per day. It has very dark green leaves.
The seedling I planted in full sun and the leaves are not as dark. It has had a few fruit on. Irma hit my
place pretty hard and the leaves were battered along with both plants left leaning. Currently the seedling is
flowering real heavy and also has a great new flush. It is not as dark green as the cutting that is
'mostly shaded but both trees are thriving and fruiting in one year.

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