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The first time I tried to root cuttings from a Pakistan I got 3 dormant cuttings and
2 of them rooted. I have tried a couple times with cuttings from non dormant cuttings and
I have not had any root?

You know you will get 2 tons of fruit next Spring if you don't prune. Doesn't your tree stay
dormant for the whole Winter in Alabama? Where I am the warmer temps the Mulberry trees start to flush
new leaves and are sort of semi dormant depending on the temps. I have had Mulberry trees flush flowers in
January and then we have a frost and I don't get much fruit. Each year different mulberries perform better
for me. I would get your fruit in the Spring and prune afterwards and get more fruit.   

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I have never pruned a 60 foot mulberry but I have pruned several mulberries and they respond
well and are easy to branch out when they are small. I do have the Indian jujube that ends up
growing to 15 feet each season. I use a chain saw and cut it back to a three foot trunk and it explodes.

Your 60 foot mulberry I would use a chainsaw and I would wait until it's done with it's fruit next spring.
If you cut it now you may not get much fruit if it is a cold Winter and it stays dormant. If you want to keep it
15 feet and manageable then you may end up pruning in June and September next year. I would think a
60 foot tree will explode after being pruned and you should get another crop.

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I guess I am closer to the cotton fields but I just bought 2 fifty pound bags for $20 each at
my local feed store? They had to special order it and it took a week to get?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Eugenia florida
« on: December 06, 2018, 08:02:54 PM »
The tree I dug up is over 4'. It was doing fine and I put it in the ground and
it kept flushing but the new growth didn't turn green. Instead it had burnt tips on the leaves
and was a yellowish red color instead of green. I didn't hit it with any fertilizer
I just planted it in mix of sand and compost. My other tree is closer to 2 feet and it was getting
afternoon sun and it was looking bad still in the pot. I put it back in the shade and it is doing better?

Federico, you have plants in full sun with no ill effects? After three years how big are your trees?
I am watering with rain or pond water and I will try spraying fungicide on them. I was inclined to think
the sun was the problem or my ph in my soil. My ph is around 7 or slightly lower. Thank you for replying

 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Eugenia florida
« on: December 06, 2018, 02:19:31 AM »
I have 2 Eugenia florida that I raised from seed. I put one out in full sun and it
went downhill. I dug it up and put it on the porch in a 15 gallon pot. I was trying to figure out
what caused the decline? Does anyone have experience with this tree?

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Cold or at least cool weather increases  the brix count,
I have a similiar memory as a kid I ate some perfectly ripened
very seedy tangerines 30 years ago. I was picking them fresh from
a friend's tree and they were the best I have ever eaten. I am pretty
sure they were murcotts.
If you knew the type it would help but usually the best oranges grown in
Central and Southwest Florida are Temples or Pineapples? Then you have to order
them at the perfect time when they have had some cold but not drying out yet. I have a small
Temple tree in my yard and can't wait to try the fruit. I have heard allot of old timers
swear it is the best you can eat in Florida and it ripens in the early Spring after
our cool nights.
The majority of oranges grown are juice oranges in Florida and the groves
check the brix count before they harvest also. Timing is very important and
maybe you can ask the right questions when you order to increase the quality
of oranges you receive?
 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anonas
« on: December 05, 2018, 04:51:01 AM »


I guess I was under the impression that Chaffey would be more acidic given its description on the lavern's tag, and descriptions online. But again, it might just be how long I let it sit before eating.
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This year I got my second season of Lisa Atemoya fruit. This years crop was so much better then last year.
I also got my first season of Dream this year and it was not as good as it's hyped up to be Maybe next year
the second season it will improve as well?

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I was looking for cottonseed meal and asked Diamond R and they don't carry it and I tried
my local feed store and they ordered me 2 bags?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with my sapodilla
« on: November 19, 2018, 09:06:12 AM »
My sapodillas usually shut down in the Winter and I don't usually get new flushes.
I am in zone 9b 10a though. In my area I would leave in pot and water with rain or pond
water and plant out in the Spring. Is it a grafted named variety? If you water 2-3 times
a week in the winter it should be enough. In the spring when it flushes it will eventually
work out the discolored leaves. Does the city water have chlorine or chloramine added?
In Florida my trees like full sun and I add compost and plenty of organics to my soil. I add
coffee grounds, oak leaves, fresh mulch 2-3 times a year.
Usually fertlizer greens them up.  Not sure about your water?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with my sapodilla
« on: November 18, 2018, 09:13:04 PM »
Have you fertilized?  What water are you using? Chlorinated?


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rooting annona cuttings
« on: November 16, 2018, 06:10:37 PM »
Did you use any rooting hormone?

No rooting hormone

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rooting annona cuttings
« on: November 16, 2018, 01:39:06 PM »
I put some Dream scions in water, the leaves stayed green for a long time
but no roots developed after several months.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds
« on: November 14, 2018, 07:54:11 AM »
Hi Mike,

Anymore seeds left?  I have been selling the heck out of baby peanut butter seedlings from the last batch you sent me!  Let me know what you still have available.

Thanks,
Matt

Yes I have many seeds left that are germinated, I'll send PM

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: EM1 activation
« on: November 11, 2018, 05:01:26 PM »
I did a lot of batches on the heat mat.  It works perfectly.  The em1 is done in 2 to 3 weeks this way. 

Now Im down to a few gallons left and am going to try and make another 40 gallons with what I have. 

Does anyone know if you can use sugarcane juice or anything other than molasas?  The molasas costs a lot and hard to get wihout mail ordering.  Is there anything else to use?  Maybe sugarcane juice and seaweed extract?

Molasses at the feed store costs less then $2 a gallon, in Florida?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: strawberries and blueberries
« on: November 09, 2018, 09:45:24 AM »
I decided to try strawberries for the first time a couple weeks ago, actually I made it my 10
year old son's project to try to get him away from the video games a little.
I read up on UF website and they recommended 3 types for Florida and said to
plant them mid October. This is suppose to be Fall but we are still 90F. UF said
strawberries like it between 50F- 80F. I bought 25 bareroot Sweet Charlie Strawberries
off amazon for $17.99 shipped. My boy and I put together a 4' X 8' bed and we added
fresh peat and rabbit manure. The bareroot strawberries arrived and didn't look like much.
There were 26 in the bag and we planted them. My boy has been watering them daily
and he added miracle grow a couple times. In two weeks we have fresh green leaves
on all 26 and some have multiple shoots. I really hope these strawberries produce well
and my son gets inspired to do something besides fortnight?  Sweet Charlie has small
extra sweet strawberries not the big ones according to the website but it was one of the
three recommended by UF for Florida? Here is one website I researched

 https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/hs403

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds
« on: November 06, 2018, 08:40:07 AM »
yes

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TFF Members,

I followed this very interesting topic from its beginning and became excited to learn that the apparently very cold tolerant Chirimoya/Atemoya cultivar 'DREAM' was being produced by a gentleman in Bradenton.

I had been trying to decide on the best Atemoya for me in Zone 9b which might be a bit cold tolerant.

'Gefner' had seemed a good choice, but then I was alerted to this topic on TFF where the members were excited about 'DREAM' and that it was tolerating temps in the 20s!

So here is an update on 'DREAM's' availbility from WC in Bradenton, whom I contacted to ask about getting one.  The gentleman replied promptly but advised me that he is no longer producing 'DREAM'.

Alas, I seem to have come late to the banquet, as it were.

So . . . .  Does anyone here on TFF know of a source of 'DREAM' grafter onto Atemoya or Chirimoya?

I'm in Tampa so could come pick one up if it weren't too far, say Orlando or Bradenton/Sarasota of closer.

Please PM me if you have grafted plants or know someone who does.  I'd like somethng that's about 3gal size if possible.

ˇPuras Frutas!

Paul M.
Tampa –Zone 9b

The consensus is that the spring is the best time to graft Annonas. This is late in the year to find dreams, but
Fruitscapes in Pine Island might have them? I would suggest looking for seedling cherimoya/ sugar apples and
buy scions in the Spring and do your own? I had my first dream fruit this year and my second year of fruit from
the Lisa atemoya. What a huge difference in fruit quality. The Lisa atemoya was my favorite fruit I produced this year
in my whole yard. I can't wait to see if the quality changes on the dream next year? I have been told the grafted
atemoyas have a short live span of around 10-12 year which is another reason to graft your own. Also you could send
forum member Vermented from Sarasota a PM, he has mentioned having several types of Atemoyas and is ahead of
most of us in acquiring some of the newest atemoyas and may have dream available in the Spring? 

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I was told Dream is the same as Arka Sahan Atemoya, is that correct?

There's been a heated debate on this topic and some believe yes and no. I planted a couple seeds
this year and was thinking if the dream is truly a cherimoya like some say then it should have
the same traits as the mother tree? I meant to plant 10 or more but I had allot of seeds going at
once and it didn't happen. If the dream is indeed an atemoya then the seedlings should be more variable?
I have read there are a few people raising them side by side and should have a definitive answer dwon the road

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Mycorrhizal Fungi
« on: November 04, 2018, 05:18:16 PM »
I have decided to apply a root drench to some plants that has Mycorrhizal Fungi.
I use a synthetic miracle grow and wondered if it would destroy the Mycorrhizal Fungi?

I sort of decided to do some trial and error but would appreciate some feedback if anyone has
experience?


Thanks

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If you look on YouTube there are several videos on making fish emulsion.
I have made two batches and I added rainwater, oakleaves, shrimp shells, along with fish and fish carcasses.
The most important thing was to add molasses which I got at the feed store for less then $2 a
gallon. I stirred it daily and added molasses several times. I have a shed and I put my
50 gallon drum behind it . I think my neighbors could smell it more then I could but when
I walked out the door I could barely smell it and my wife didn't complain. After 2-3 weeks it was not as bad
and luckily it didn't attract a coon or buzzards. There are so many formulas and Jay definitely went all out.

One thing I noticed about my concoction if I screwed a lid on the gallon jug it would start to build pressure.
It was way more potent then the stuff you can buy online. I even added algae from a fresh water pond to the mix.

I actually have about 10 gallons left and didn't use it much this summer. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Discovered Some Visitors
« on: October 30, 2018, 08:46:31 PM »
Find somebody to move that comb (with bees) and put it in a hive body for you.
Easier to do it now rather than wait until the comb gets heavier (and alot more bees) and falls to the ground from it's own weight.

I just started my 3rd hive in my backyard, my lot is just barely over a quarter acre in a residential neighborhood.
Started my first in 2016 (one on the left), my second in 2017 (one on the right) and when I extracted the honey back in late June this year from those 2 hives I got 103 pounds of honey (approx 9.5 gallons). And since June I have another 21 medium frames in the freezer and a 8 frame deep honey super on the # 2 hive to extract. Should be about another 80-90 pounds


How many times have you been stung? I always wanted to get a box but am sensitive to stings

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Earlier this year a member had a Luc's Garcinia that was very large for it's
age and flowering. Some other members doubted the tree was only 4-5 years old.
The member said the location was previously where chickens were raised and the
dirt was very rich and black. I understood that Garcinia have a long tap root which must
develop before the lateral roots. So far all the Garcinia I have attempted to grow in pots
barely grow. I wondered if they would grow quicker if they were in the ground earlier so
the tap root doesn't get hindered? I planted a yearling Luc's Garcinia recently and will
compare it to the 4 I have in pots. I did get some extra deep pots to put my Garcinia in.
Another thing to consider is that if your chosen spot gets too much direct light you could put a temporary
cover over them until they get 4 feet or so.

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Better photos of the orange Eugenia sp.





What temps does this tree handle?

THANKS

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: seeds
« on: October 21, 2018, 08:46:54 PM »
Only in USA? Not to abroad?

Pm sent

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jatropa
« on: October 19, 2018, 04:37:54 PM »
achetadomestica
if you have any extra seeds let me know
(i can purchase)

if i ever do grow a tree, i would probably send seeds in for testing first.
this way also, i can propagate cuttings to trade etc.
it would be nice if rare-fruiters had more than 1 source.

or, if anyone has cuttings i would be interested.

I checked for someone else yesterday and the seeds are done for the year.
I had noticed a couple late clusters of nuts and when I checked I found the
seeds at the bottom and they looked dry. I ate the last 5 seeds and it's kind of weird the
way your mind plays tricks on you, but I had no ill effects. The seeds are done till next
July but if you want a couple cuttings Pm me maybe trade for a couple mulberry cuttings?

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