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« Reply #725 on: October 12, 2015, 10:39:38 PM »
You can tie paper towel around most of scion, except the tip.

And move them to full sun? Or keep them on shade?
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« Reply #726 on: October 13, 2015, 05:31:36 PM »













looks like I got 4 out of four 😆
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« Reply #727 on: October 14, 2015, 01:35:56 AM »
Nice work! Beautiful plants and grafts, there, Osito. Congratulations!

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« Reply #728 on: October 23, 2015, 07:37:23 AM »
Got my first graft to take. Its a Neelam!!



Getting ready for next summer. Got 24 seedlings (one maybe dying). Testing them out in 1 gallon root pouches.



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« Reply #729 on: October 23, 2015, 07:58:59 AM »
Got my first graft to take. Its a Neelam!!



Getting ready for next summer. Got 24 seedlings (one maybe dying). Testing them out in 1 gallon root pouches.



How long ago did you graft it?  What is that red material its wrapped with?
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« Reply #730 on: October 23, 2015, 08:36:51 AM »
Got my first graft to take. Its a Neelam!!



Getting ready for next summer. Got 24 seedlings (one maybe dying). Testing them out in 1 gallon root pouches.



How long ago did you graft it?  What is that red material its wrapped with?

Its been about 4 weeks since grafting. Pushed out in the third week.
The red material is flagging tape, the parafilm i had at that time was brittle, didn't seem like it would hold the scion well.

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« Reply #731 on: October 26, 2015, 10:47:36 AM »
Johnny you rosin up your bow! (sharpen up your grafting knife)  :P

now is a great time to graft jaboticabas in FL!  ;)

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« Reply #732 on: November 23, 2015, 12:46:02 PM »
Update.

All the grafts I did on my own were a bust. Dead or dying.  :-[

Good news is that fellow member Sapote came over this sunday and showed me how to properly graft mangos. Thanks Sapote, looking forward to trying it again in June.
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« Reply #733 on: November 23, 2015, 01:17:44 PM »
next time, graft in Summer. don't take chances. we had unusual warm weather late this year that provided success to lot of folks, but prime time to graft in So Cal still is Jul thru Mid. Sep.

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« Reply #734 on: November 23, 2015, 01:25:12 PM »
next time, graft in Summer. don't take chances. we had unusual warm weather late this year that provided success to lot of folks, but prime time to graft in So Cal still is Jul thru Mid. Sep.

Point taken Behl, that's my plan. will you be offering any scions for purchase or trade? I would love to have a local source of fresh scions. From what sapote was saying that's one of the big pieces to the puzzle.
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« Reply #735 on: November 23, 2015, 01:28:24 PM »
depending on how my growth goes, there is a possibility. key is not just fresh, but how scions were prepped before harvesting. I usually prep them for over 10 days before I harvest and gives high success rates.

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« Reply #736 on: November 23, 2015, 01:33:12 PM »
depending on how my growth goes, there is a possibility. key is not just fresh, but how scions were prepped before harvesting. I usually prep them for over 10 days before I harvest and gives high success rates.

Can you share a little about the prepping process? Do you trim the leaves and then cut them as they're about to bud? Any other tricks?
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« Reply #737 on: November 23, 2015, 01:35:07 PM »
that's it

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« Reply #738 on: November 23, 2015, 02:07:13 PM »
next time, graft in Summer. don't take chances. we had unusual warm weather late this year that provided success to lot of folks, but prime time to graft in So Cal still is Jul thru Mid. Sep.

I'm lucky enough to be one of them, see my mango LZ bud below. LZ chip bud on Alphonso branch on in ground Lavern Manila.


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« Reply #739 on: November 23, 2015, 02:13:27 PM »
That is some master grafting right there. Completely amazed.
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« Reply #740 on: November 23, 2015, 02:17:37 PM »
Thera, when did you cut the top? Was it after the bud started pushing? I can't tell fro the early photos. Very nicely done!

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« Reply #741 on: November 23, 2015, 02:27:15 PM »
I broke the top when I saw sign of the bud taking and took the 2nd photo. Then I cut it off when I saw the bud really pushing and took the 3rd photo. I have since cut the top a little bit more, see photo below from 2 days ago.


« Last Edit: November 23, 2015, 02:40:05 PM by kh0110 »
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« Reply #742 on: November 23, 2015, 08:49:34 PM »
Oh, that upside down stub thing in the 2nd photo is the broken top...
Thanks for giving all the details. I will experiment with this method to improve my grafting some more. Maybe next year.

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« Reply #743 on: November 23, 2015, 10:15:14 PM »
That is some master grafting right there. Completely amazed.

You're giving me way too much credit here, Sami. If you looked carefully at the pix, you'll see the failed cut right below the bud. That was my 1st cut and it was way too large and too high. The 2nd cut was still way too large but just about the right height. A master grafter wouldn't make such mistake.
So you know, this was my 1st budding success after at least 10 attempts. And just when I decided to document the steps for troubleshooting, it worked out nicely.
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« Reply #744 on: November 24, 2015, 07:32:03 AM »
I tried my first graft in jully of this year. A pitanga (of big and delicious fruit) over a common pitanga, being the graft with 1,2 cm in diameter. It was going well, with the first sprouts beginning to grow, when the cleaning woman damaged the graft... Nor she nor my wife told me. >:( ... I redid the graft, but it died 10 days ago...

I also did other grafts in the end of august:

  • eugenia luschnathiana over eugenia luschnathiana - failled (22/11/2015)
  • eugenia involucrata over (supposed) eugenia involucrata- failled (22/11/2015)
  • eugenia luschnathiana over eugenia uniflora- failled (20/11/2015)
  • unknown jabuticaba over hybrid-jabuticaba -  Still no new leafs, but alive
  • eugenia involucrata over eugenia candolleana - Still no new leafs, but alive
  • citrus coração-bahia over citrus limonia osbeck -  failled (21/09/2015)
  • plinia edulis over unknown jabuticaba - Still no new leafs, but alive

I still need to learn a lot!  :-[
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« Reply #745 on: November 24, 2015, 12:33:32 PM »
That is some master grafting right there. Completely amazed.

You're giving me way too much credit here, Sami. If you looked carefully at the pix, you'll see the failed cut right below the bud. That was my 1st cut and it was way too large and too high. The 2nd cut was still way too large but just about the right height. A master grafter wouldn't make such mistake.
So you know, this was my 1st budding success after at least 10 attempts. And just when I decided to document the steps for troubleshooting, it worked out nicely.
I did 15 grafts all failed. I'm hoping the last 3 I watched sapote do stick. He was very meticulous and delicate, I think I was being ham handed and just going thru the motions. Watching videos of farmers in India and Thailand whizzing thru graft after graft sitting on the ground is very deceptive. You literally need to have a surgeons focus.
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« Reply #746 on: November 24, 2015, 12:51:21 PM »
I did 15 grafts all failed. I'm hoping the last 3 I watched sapote do stick. He was very meticulous and delicate, I think I was being ham handed and just going thru the motions. Watching videos of farmers in India and Thailand whizzing thru graft after graft sitting on the ground is very deceptive. You literally need to have a surgeons focus.

That has been my experience with avocado grafting.  I wonder if the SoCal low humidity has something to do with it.

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« Reply #747 on: November 24, 2015, 01:29:41 PM »
I did 15 grafts all failed. I'm hoping the last 3 I watched sapote do stick. He was very meticulous and delicate, I think I was being ham handed and just going thru the motions. Watching videos of farmers in India and Thailand whizzing thru graft after graft sitting on the ground is very deceptive. You literally need to have a surgeons focus.

That has been my experience with avocado grafting.  I wonder if the SoCal low humidity has something to do with it.

Sapote did something very interesting. 1., he didn't cover the entire scion with the grafting tape, only a couple inches above and below the grafting point 2., he made a plastic sleeve out of a medium thickness  opaque plastic shopping bag and slipped it over the scion.
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« Reply #748 on: November 24, 2015, 01:42:55 PM »
There is no magic to grafting it's all about timing and the months when you preform the grafts.
Anonas:
March - May
Mangos:
Late June - August
Avocados
Spring to Fall

That doesn't mean you'll have no takes outside of these periods but these are the months you'll have greater success.

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« Reply #749 on: November 24, 2015, 01:57:50 PM »
There is magic to grafting it all about timing and the months when you preform the grafts.
Anonas:
March - May
Mangos:
Late June - August
Avocados
Spring to Fall

That doesn't mean you'll have no takes outside of these periods but these are the months you'll have greater success.

Yeah, late June is when I'm planning to start again. This way I'll have til august to get better at it.
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