Red atemoya?

[Garcinia]

Anyone know what this one might be?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-fresh-seeds-of-Red-Atemoya-Annona-Sp-rare-exotic-fruit-tree-/182401642146

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Hybrid of San Pablo (A. reticulata) and Geffner atemoya...47-18

[Garcinia]

Thanks. Looks tasty.

[druss]

Tribrid then?

[JF]

Thanks. Looks tasty.

Not tasty fruited them 2014. look in the forum search for pix.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Thanks. Looks tasty.

Not tasty fruited them 2014. look in the forum search for pix.

haha, with a fruit that pretty, people don't care what u say...but I agree, the flavor was what I'd call...lackluster

[Garcinia]

Agree. Too beautiful to not want to grow.

[JF]

Thanks. Looks tasty.

Not tasty fruited them 2014. look in the forum search for pix.

haha, with a fruit that pretty, people don't care what u say...but I agree, the flavor was what I'd call...lackluster

Lol let them suit themselves and find the wood lol I'll keep Big Red, genova red, Birula anona rosada they are much more attractive and infinitely better tasting.

[MangCau]

lol. I wanted 47-18 so bad that I purchased seeds last year. My babies are growing nicely.

[bsbullie]

Thanks. Looks tasty.

Not tasty fruited them 2014. look in the forum search for pix.

haha, with a fruit that pretty, people don't care what u say...but I agree, the flavor was what I'd call...lackluster

Lol let them suit themselves and find the wood lol I'll keep Big Red, genova red, Birula anona rosada they are much more attractive and infinitely better tasting.

Agreed.  I dont grow fruit for looks.  Its gotta taste good...that is the most important thing.  Fruit size, fruit looks, seed size means little when compared to taste.

[TheDom]

lol. I wanted 47-18 so bad that I purchased seeds last year. My babies are growing nicely.

I hate to break it to you, but 47-18 seeds are not going to give you a 47-18 plant, there's just too much room for variability in a hybrid like that. You may luck out and get something pretty similar, or you may end up with something very different. Either way if you want legit 47-18, you need to graft it.

[Guanabanus]

I bred the 47---18, and I agree that the taste is not desireable, and the texture isn't either.  Also, it is not an "atemoya."  It is an "Annona hybrid", or "Temoylata."

[FlyingFoxFruits]

lol. I wanted 47-18 so bad that I purchased seeds last year. My babies are growing nicely.

U have pics of seedlings??

It would be fun to observe the variation

Never know what kind of hybridization might have gone on...could have been pollinated by another annona (if was from me)

[JF]

lol. I wanted 47-18 so bad that I purchased seeds last year. My babies are growing nicely.

U have pics of seedlings??

It would be fun to observe the variation

Never know what kind of hybridization might have gone on...could have been pollinated by another annona (if was from me)

Adam

That's a good point. I cross 47-18 with top tier atemoyas. The seedlings are growing well

[MangCau]

lol. I wanted 47-18 so bad that I purchased seeds last year. My babies are growing nicely.

U have pics of seedlings??

It would be fun to observe the variation

Never know what kind of hybridization might have gone on...could have been pollinated by another annona (if was from me

The seeds came from the eBay seller above. I recieved scions and jabo seeds from you Adam. The 47-18 grafts rotted.

[MangCau]

I bred the 47---18, and I agree that the taste is not desireable, and the texture isn't either.  Also, it is not an "atemoya."  It is an "Annona hybrid", or "Temoylata."

Har,
First and foremost, Thank you for the creation of this beautiful fruit.  Can you tell me more about taste and texture? Why is it not desirable for you?

[TheDom]

What specific desirable traits does 47-18 display that one would want to add to a new annona? Red skin? The flesh isn't red in the 47-18, is it?

lol. I wanted 47-18 so bad that I purchased seeds last year. My babies are growing nicely.

U have pics of seedlings??

It would be fun to observe the variation

Never know what kind of hybridization might have gone on...could have been pollinated by another annona (if was from me)

Adam

That's a good point. I cross 47-18 with top tier atemoyas. The seedlings are growing well

[FlyingFoxFruits]

I was thinking it was desirable because it's got genetics from 3 species all in one plant, and of course the red skin.

 But the flavor to me was not sweet enough, and the texture was just barely mealy...really did remind me of a bland geffner, with more mealy pasty pulp, and traces of custard Apple flavor.

[Mike T]

I think as soon as A.reticulata genes come in the flavour and quality diminish.I have seen atemoyas that are reddish and from memory Maroochy gold is red brown quite often.I have also seen a few seedling brumby atemoyas with some red on the skin. Getting red skin and the great taste of top atemoyas is the challenge rather than some bland gefner tasting one.

[Mike T]

http://www.ishs.org/ishs-article/694_18

There was a lot of breeding done to get red fleshed and red skinned atemoyas and 15 lines were being evaluated/.I don't know much more about the outcomes of the government trials.

[kh0110]

Here are a couple of crosses with the Lottery results in 2 years hopefully. Notice the difference in leaves forms depending on which is the mother tree.

47-18 x PM (from JF).


PM x 47-28 (me). Some iron/sulfur deficiencies here and the current rains don't really help.

[Garcinia]

Thanks everyone for the info and pictures.

What about this Israeli green "atemoya"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-fresh-seeds-of-Green-Atemoya-Annona-Squamosa-X-A-Cherimola-Var-Gefner-/172399176646

[JF]

I think as soon as A.reticulata genes come in the flavour and quality diminish.I have seen atemoyas that are reddish and from memory Maroochy gold is red brown quite often.I have also seen a few seedling brumby atemoyas with some red on the skin. Getting red skin and the great taste of top atemoyas is the challenge rather than some bland gefner tasting one.

Mike is absolutely correct. You do not want to contaminate any great tasting anona with a.reticulata.....people want to know the taste of 47-18 it's grainy and it taste like arm& hammer

[Garcinia]

I think as soon as A.reticulata genes come in the flavour and quality diminish.I have seen atemoyas that are reddish and from memory Maroochy gold is red brown quite often.I have also seen a few seedling brumby atemoyas with some red on the skin. Getting red skin and the great taste of top atemoyas is the challenge rather than some bland gefner tasting one.

Mike is absolutely correct. You do not want to contaminate any great tasting anona with a.reticulata.....people want to know the taste of 47-18 it's grainy and it taste like arm& hammer

Definitely sounds bad. I should just stick to red squamosa.

[MangCau]

Thanks everyone for the info and pictures.

What about this Israeli green "atemoya"

http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-fresh-seeds-of-Green-Atemoya-Annona-Squamosa-X-A-Cherimola-Var-Gefner-/172399176646

Common gefner.