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DPI Gold and Alva starapples and juicy pearls are ripe again
« on: November 12, 2017, 01:22:46 AM »
Another season passes and once again I am eating a few starapples. Just as a reminder the DPI Gold and Alva are known as gold or pink  starapples which are much rarer thgan the purples and greens as well as being larger and sweeter. Sometimes they reach 1kg.




The juicy pearls have a single seed are apparently the same species and perhaps subspecies as what Oscar has in Hawaii and are lovely to eat. They appear to be Chrysophyllum argenteum subsp. auratum.
 



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Re: DPI Gold and Alva starapples and juicy pearls are ripe again
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2017, 02:53:11 AM »
Which one is the best? And is the tree big ?

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Re: DPI Gold and Alva starapples and juicy pearls are ripe again
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2017, 08:58:46 AM »
Hi Mike, they look awesome! Can't wait to try my owns I grafted the DPI gold to a standard adult bearing caimito tree that now I'm ready to topcut, hopefully this way can bear soon, about the juice pearl Oscar mentioned his tree as being smaller than regular caimito and having more spread fruiting season, have you noticed the same in juicy pearl?
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Re: DPI Gold and Alva starapples and juicy pearls are ripe again
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2017, 08:59:47 AM »
Great to see these varieties again! You had mentioned before that only a few individuals had trees of these varieties. Are there any plans of getting the fruit into wider availability. I hope to visit Australia in the future and would like to try them.
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Re: DPI Gold and Alva starapples and juicy pearls are ripe again
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2017, 02:48:27 PM »
Lucky fellow, those look delicious Mike! I have Oscar's pink, I wonder if I could graft it onto my purple? See if I can speed it up a bit. :)

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Re: DPI Gold and Alva starapples and juicy pearls are ripe again
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2017, 07:31:07 PM »
There are only a few confirmed trees of each and no plans for wider production. They are heavy bearers with the juicy pearl being a small tree and the other two being standard large starapple trees. Alva and DPI Gold are as good as each other in quality with low latex and high quality. Juicy pearl is just different but nice but is quite milky and the latex is not tenacious. Most juicy pearls are 150g to 250g with some more than 350g and they are flattened on the poles.

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Re: DPI Gold and Alva starapples and juicy pearls are ripe again
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2017, 09:16:29 PM »
Mike,
What height & age did your juicy pearl first successfully fruit ? Same as dpi gold ?

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Re: DPI Gold and Alva starapples and juicy pearls are ripe again
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 07:15:50 PM »
Adapted to Fine Textured Soils: No

So it cannot grow in clay soil??


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Re: DPI Gold and Alva starapples and juicy pearls are ripe again
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 07:54:20 PM »
I have one that I got the seed from Jim West, perhaps it is like Oscar's.  It is flowering for the first time now.  It's planted in clay soil and is less than 3 years old, perhaps 3m high.
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Re: DPI Gold and Alva starapples and juicy pearls are ripe again
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2017, 06:41:36 PM »
Starapples and juicy pearls do fine in clay soils. Juicy pearls fruit at 3 years old and the tree is smaller than starapples. The juicy pearl has a different shape and size from those that Oscar has by the look of it even if they are the same species and probably subspecies. I am sure they graft onto each well as they are obviously closely related.

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Re: DPI Gold and Alva starapples and juicy pearls are ripe again
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 09:51:07 PM »
I have one that I got the seed from Jim West, perhaps it is like Oscar's.  It is flowering for the first time now.  It's planted in clay soil and is less than 3 years old, perhaps 3m high.
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wow this species is precocious .never thought of that because oscars plant only flowered at 6 years old and it seems like his plant takes longer to bear and slow growing.currently his is at 12 feet tall after 10 years.maybe this species has many variations and it would be great to popularize it

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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2017, 08:07:23 AM »
I have one that I got the seed from Jim West, perhaps it is like Oscar's.  It is flowering for the first time now.  It's planted in clay soil and is less than 3 years old, perhaps 3m high.
Peter

Wow, 3 years is nice...maybe you have picture of tree? Is it growing wide?


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Re: DPI Gold and Alva starapples and juicy pearls are ripe again
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2017, 12:18:00 PM »


I think I understated the height earlier. The tree is about 5m high, 4m wide and the trunk is only about 7cm thick. Itís not in a very sunny location, perhaps more in the open it would be shaped differently.
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2017, 07:42:41 PM »


I think I understated the height earlier. The tree is about 5m high, 4m wide and the trunk is only about 7cm thick. Itís not in a very sunny location, perhaps more in the open it would be shaped differently.
Peter

Very nice tree, thank you for picture.

So this tree can grow fast and also in shade. And not so big is also good.

 

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