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Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« on: November 13, 2017, 08:06:14 AM »
Between 2 and 4 years ago I received many Brazilian Garcinias which I spread around and surprisingly some are starting to fruit already.The label of this one was transposed incorrectly and its identity is unknown.It is larger than achachairu and sweeter and from what I am told it is better quality.Can anyone positively identify it?


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Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 08:08:41 AM »
It just dawned on me that bucupari is G.gardneriana.

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Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 08:59:34 PM »
wow.how old the tree? if its an identified species you can get to name it i suppose

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Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 06:03:24 PM »
Between 2 and 4 years ago I received many Brazilian Garcinias which I spread around and surprisingly some are starting to fruit already.The label of this one was transposed incorrectly and its identity is unknown.It is larger than achachairu and sweeter and from what I am told it is better quality.Can anyone positively identify it?

It would be nice to know how big those trees are. What kind of fertilizer did the trees receive that they gave fruits so quickly?

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Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 06:24:33 PM »
Mark
          Could you please let me know the size of your Bacupari. Here in my garden they grow wild. Compared to Achachairu mine are
smaller and more sour to taste.

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Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 06:37:38 PM »
It is 3.5 years old and had a generous regime of fertiliser application with lots of micros and potash as it is on the Salleras farm. I have not seen the tree in fruit was told they are a little larger than achachairus and a little sweeter. The photo makes it look smaller than that species. I recall receiving a selection of this species which allegedly was sweeter than most.

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Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2017, 11:51:58 AM »
Looks like Garcinia intermedia, well the flower and the fruit.

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Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2017, 02:20:31 PM »
Similar to intermedia but slightly larger fruits. From reports I've heard, smaller fruit than Achachairu and more tart.

Same fruit pictured next to other small fruits here:
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=18394.0
« Last Edit: November 23, 2017, 02:33:16 PM by dwfl »

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Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2017, 07:04:48 PM »
It's the superior form of garcinia brasiliensis, which was confused by some collectors as gardneriana
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Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2017, 07:57:27 PM »
It's the superior form of garcinia brasiliensis, which was confused by some collectors as gardneriana

Is G. Brasiliensis synonym for G. Gardneriana?

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Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2017, 08:52:06 PM »
It's the superior form of garcinia brasiliensis, which was confused by some collectors as gardneriana

Is G. Brasiliensis synonym for G. Gardneriana?

No, different species/fruits. G. Garderiana pictured here:






« Last Edit: November 23, 2017, 08:56:05 PM by dwfl »

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Re: Mystery Garcinia from southern Brazil
« Reply #11 on: Today at 06:01:31 AM »
I agree G. brasiliensis is not the same as G. gardneriana.  The information on “Kew plant list” and other respected data sources still lists it as being the same plant.  Thanks for the picture dwfl makes it t easier to see the differences.

 

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