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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rosigold v. Dwarf Hawaiian?
« on: November 28, 2023, 09:33:19 AM »
After a few years I got frustrated with my DH for a few reasons and converted it.
1) they are very very small
2) I personally do not like Spicy
3) they ripen at different times over many weeks and if left on too long get super spicy so I had to go over to this tree 2 times every day to see which needed to be picked.

Bottom line is Island people where they grow spicy Julie and other spicy mangoes love this fruit.
As far as Rosigold if you have at least 7 or 8 other mango trees you gotta have a Rosi for your last one to be able to bring great pleasure early in the season to as many people as you can because the first taste of the season even of a not special mango is special!

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And besides affecting mangoes it’s happening to my avocados too.
















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What is causing these depressions on so many of my fruit this year? The depressions don’t penetrate the deep layer of skin. The black spots are not eggs.




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Please see photos of the problem.




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Galatians that article was sensational. Thank you so very much. Tomorrow I will now fertigation all my mango and lychees trees and try this guys advice.

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Specifically when new flower panicles start pushing out. That crazy early panicle flush we had last month I sure hope wasn’t the real one. On my trees that did flush there was only a few on a few trees. The ones that are holding the most totally healthy babies are the Sweet Tarts and Lemon Zests. But of all my trees maybe the largest might be only 5% of those Sweet Tarts potential. It’s pretty scary but I’m hoping the real one is coming. On most of the other varieties that flushed most babies are falling off. AND they have all been very diligently sprayed every 2 weeks. So yes I am quite worried.

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After that very cold weather that we had if no damage was done how many weeks after that shock that the mango trees got can we expect to see bloom start coming out?

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Jakefruit. If you spray with 98% mineral oil and Azoxystrobin you will be getting fungus plus scale. It doesn’t kill all scale but greatly reduces the population plus many other pests including another mode of action against fungus. Don’t mix the baking soda with Azoxy but can if only spraying mineral oil.

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2 ways I go.
First is 98% mineral oil and baking soda(arm and Hammer) for 100 gallons of water I use 1.5 gallons mineral oil and 7 lb  baking soda. The oil is to control scale and other pests and powdery mildew and the baking soda is to kick ass on powdery mildew.
My alternate spray which I do 2-3 times a season is what I learned was the #1 treatment for the prevention of anthracnose and powdery mildew problems. I got it from a plant pathologist at a lecture at Fairchild Garden sponsored by the Rair Tropical Fruit Council. The Dr said they tested every anti fungus treatment and combination of treatments and this was the best and here it is…….
Per 100 gallons again
15.5 ozs of Azoxystrobin and 16 ozs of Nu Film 17. Take a look at this short video and you will see how nice it works. I’m not answering questions at this time.
https://youtu.be/AFmhih1I5io

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Who is Growing Lamb Hass in Florida?
« on: November 05, 2021, 11:20:04 PM »
I’m in Miami and had a productive lamb Haas tree about 6 years ago. When ripe and I cut into it there was always black fungus that was under the skin. Carlos is spraying them which I did not. He used to have the same black fungus problem and that was the main reason he went negative on it back then. Now with spraying he says it solved the problem.
As far as Haas Carmen they are as good as the best in Publix. I’m very happy with my 3 big trees. My only regret is I shaped them into trees but they should have been grown as bushes because as a bush they are more protected from the sun

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Orange Sherbet panicles pushing out Nov 1 2021 Kendall Fl. Insane!!!!






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You do know that flooded with rain is the problem!! Yes too much rain with wet feet makes leaves look like that. Every hole each tree sits in drains at a different rate especially if the holes were dug in a coral rock mantel. After all that same rain you got and I got I got the exact same look on many of my Miami leaves on many different mango trees. So don’t do anything. And if you don’t like the way they look just pick the leaves off.

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Anthracnose or burns from fertilizer or spray or lack of water.

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First I must say you are right on top of this situation. Congrats for your concern. When you tip sometimes you get 1 extension and sometimes you get a lot more and it’s that simple. Just keep tipping and staying on too of it like you are doing and you will get a nice full tree. I have a lot of mango trees and when I pass young ones with new shoots and I don’t have a s scissor or pruner with me I just use my fingernail on young tips. If say there are 30 tips that need tipping and say they are from 4-5” to 10” I’ll tip them all because I don’t want to come back to tip that tree again till the next bunch of branches firm. Yes even if they are only 4 inches long. What’s my thinking? Well I don’t let my trees produce till they have been in the ground for 3 full years and it doesn’t matter those 3 years how long the branches are when you tip them but you do want the fullest tree not the tallest tree. This year one of my experiments is that any tree I am letting fruit in 2022 I did not tip or prune. I want to see if this increases my yield and you how much.
Sometimes I will go back to where a single shoot emerged and cut it off below where it emerged but rarely will I do that because with a healthy tree one can just tip it when it’s 1-2-3 or 4 inches long. But I think if it’s tipped further back where the beach is wider with more girth there might be a better chance it will push out more branches because that branch is bigger and has the size to hold more shoots.

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I said to the Secretary that it would be nice if they sent out a mass mailing every week during mango season telling everyone what varieties Mr Zill picked each week so that others would know about when to start picking their own. Of course picking times can differ based on how far ones’ own trees are from Zills. Her response was that that info is found each week on Facebook where they list their fruit that’s for sale. I personally will start checking this out because Mr Zill says pic them green. I’ve been waiting too long for color changes on varieties that change colors and when they don’t change color and stay on too long too many times a few varieties that can be great get over ripe.

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But I said I use 3-6 times the recommended dose!!

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I have had no insecurities of any feature about my 26 OS trees so far. In this past 2021 season I had 3 of the 4 trees that were over 3 years in the ground fruit. The amount of fruit produced by those 3 that Fruited was satisfactory. In 2022 all 26 have a green light to have babies. And right up to the time those OS fruit were picked I had been fertigating those trees 1X a month with Dyna-Gro’s Foliage Pro 9-3-6 at a rate ranging from 3 to 6 times the recommended rate. Analysis of this liquid fertilizer will be attached below as a photo.
I stopped fertilizing any of my trees that will be over 3 years old during the 2022 season the beginning of July because they will be allowed to produce fruit. I don’t want them to have any nitrogen and I wanted the summer rains to wash out what they had been sitting in their whole lives in my ground. They were absolutely green and healthy as humanly made possible at that point and sometimes that happiness is not conducive to the stresses they need to go through to reproduce themselves by making babies(fruit). All my trees that will be less than 3 years in ground next summer 2022 will continue to get pushed by this fertilizer. I do all this for fun cause I love experimenting.
The second part of this experiment was I did not prune a single tip on any of the trees or lower and shape them that are over 3 years old and I will allow to fruit in 2022. But if any trees overlapped on the sides I did make some space so light could get in. My guess/prediction/hope is a scary massive amount of fruit. Producing trees in 2022 will be about 210. Will let you know how this works out. At the end of the 2022 season I plan on leveling out every tree at 6 feet and pruning all around them dramatically. So 2023 will be a resting year for any tree that was allowed to fruit up to 2022. The summer of 2023 if no fruit pop out on those 210 mutilated trees the youngins that can produce includes mostly Sugarloafs and Lemon Zests and Pineapples Pleasures. PS my OS trees are surrounded by very close multiple varieties of mango trees. <br /><br />

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Your favorite South Florida Nursery
« on: October 09, 2021, 10:22:43 AM »
Orange Sherbet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Your favorite South Florida Nursery
« on: October 08, 2021, 09:42:43 PM »
If we get a Hurricane we will all be buying again and our choices will be fine tuned by our mango experiences the last few years. I have 270 mango trees with 32 varieties and if I get the chance there is 1 variety that I’d like to be at least 1/2 of my trees.
So this thread I just printed out for when all of us are clamoring for trees!! Thanks

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what other avocado root stocks do you have?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: mango leafs getting black spots, die later
« on: September 23, 2021, 10:27:17 PM »
You showed a few mango scales. The black is from too much water. And it mostly affects the youngest leaves.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone try neem oil on mango trees?
« on: September 07, 2021, 05:12:24 PM »
Skip Neem only use horticultural mineral oil 98% Neem burns and kills. You can load up high concentration of the 98% with no consequences. It suffocates the same. 

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I made a video and put it on YouTube. In addition which is not on the video, is that amazingly not a single Keitt on any of my 4 Keitt trees was attacked by squirrels and especially the naked ones that were left unboxed as a control.  I think somehow the boxes scare squirrels. They do reflect and “flash” light so maybe that’s the reason????

https://youtu.be/teH4BpN5zhk

I wrote additional observations in the information box under this video on YouTube.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugarloaf video by Zill high performance
« on: September 02, 2021, 03:25:01 AM »
That uneven ripening in that video I learned about this season on many of my own fruit. I loved what he said about picking them green because this year so many varieties that stayed on the trees an extra 3-6 weeks tasted like crap. At first I thought how great it was but then was very disappointed at what was inside most of them that stayed on so long. After internalizing this from this video now I’m not going to top my 5 Orange Essence trees. I just left the fruit on too long. What a shmuck!!

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