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Title: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: JulianoGS on March 11, 2021, 02:17:08 PM
If you could only have 10 mango trees, and wanted solid productivity, minimal tree work, and a good tasting fruit.
What would it be?  Do we now have more info on newer varieties?

Productivity
Resistance
Taste
Care
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 11, 2021, 02:33:20 PM
Dwarf Hawaiian Pickering Little Gem Honey Kiss Fruit Punch Glenn
I've been up since 5 I'm a little frazzled right now if I count any higher I will have to take my shoe off.lol
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: TonyinCC on March 11, 2021, 02:57:03 PM
Not sure if I can come up with 10 yet but the first 5 on this list should all be solid productive trees for homeowners with limited space. ( not in order of quality)

Glenn (earliest of the group not counting Dwarf Hawaiian...) Neighbors have been very happy with this one, I don't have one planted.

Pickering (at its best from June til mid July) Precocious and productive. Must have.

Duncan (many good traits)

Maha Chanok   (Starts Mid July and can have off season fruit, have had fruit in Dec,Jan,April) Not precocious.

Little Gem (Very long season potentially from June til mid Sept but best later in the season. I start picking mid July.) Must Have.

Honey Kiss according to other members.Probably a must have tree. My tree died and has not been replanted but maybe in the future...

Edgar?  Precocious and productive long season.  Late May-July for me. Fruit can be dirty looking with anthracnose later in its season. Peachy tangy mango with a hint of citrus.

Cotton Candy?  Not precocious but looks like it will be productive. Best Mango I ate last year was one of these. Healthy well shaped tree. Fruit was looking dirty by July so I picked it all then. Was hoping it would be later season.

Dwarf Hawaiian? I planted one out last year and am hopeful but too early to know if it will make my list as the best earliest mango....


Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: JulianoGS on March 11, 2021, 03:05:10 PM
Up since 5am, you need to catch some zzz. Come back to the list and add some more later on.
Is Fruit punch a large and vigorous tree?

Dwarf Hawaiian Pickering Little Gem Honey Kiss Fruit Punch Glenn
I've been up since 5 I'm a little frazzled right now if I count any higher I will have to take my shoe off.lol

Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: JulianoGS on March 11, 2021, 03:09:29 PM
Not sure if I can come up with 10 yet but the first 5 on this list should all be solid productive trees for homeowners with limited space. ( not in order of quality)

Glenn (earliest of the group) Neighbors have been very happy with this one, I don't have one planted.

Pickering (at its best from June til mid July) Precocious and productive. Must have.

Duncan (many good traits)

Maha Chanok   (Starts Mid July and can have off season fruit, have had fruit in Dec,Jan,April) Not precocious.

Little Gem (Very long season potentially from June til mid Sept but best later in the season. I start picking mid July.) Must Have.

Honey Kiss according to other members.Probably a must have tree. My tree died and has not been replanted but maybe in the future...

Edgar?  Precocious and productive long season.  Late May-July for me. Fruit can be dirty looking with anthracnose later in its season. Peachy tangy mango with a hint of citrus.

Cotton Candy?  Not precocious but looks like it will be productive. Best Mango I ate last year was one of these. Healthy well shaped tree. Fruit was looking dirty by July so I picked it all then. Was hoping it would be later season.

Dwarf Hawaiian? I planted one out last year and am hopeful....

Nice input there Tony, got Duncan on my mind as well. 
Do you anything about Edgar's growth habit?
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: TonyinCC on March 11, 2021, 03:23:13 PM
Edgar is very precocious and productive and this will help limit the size of the tree. I actually had to let new higher scaffold branches grow after the fruit was gone since they were so weighted down with fruit last year they were bent downwards. I had to cut them off and let it regrow some more vertically oriented  branches.  Setting fruit on the new upper scaffolds now. Looks like it will be an easily managed tree.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 11, 2021, 04:11:11 PM
Not sure if I can come up with 10 yet but the first 5 on this list should all be solid productive trees for homeowners with limited space. ( not in order of quality)

Glenn (earliest of the group) Neighbors have been very happy with this one, I don't have one planted.

Pickering (at its best from June til mid July) Precocious and productive. Must have.

Duncan (many good traits)

Maha Chanok   (Starts Mid July and can have off season fruit, have had fruit in Dec,Jan,April) Not precocious.

Little Gem (Very long season potentially from June til mid Sept but best later in the season. I start picking mid July.) Must Have.

Honey Kiss according to other members.Probably a must have tree. My tree died and has not been replanted but maybe in the future...

Edgar?  Precocious and productive long season.  Late May-July for me. Fruit can be dirty looking with anthracnose later in its season. Peachy tangy mango with a hint of citrus.

Cotton Candy?  Not precocious but looks like it will be productive. Best Mango I ate last year was one of these. Healthy well shaped tree. Fruit was looking dirty by July so I picked it all then. Was hoping it would be later season.

Dwarf Hawaiian? I planted one out last year and am hopeful....

Nice input there Tony, got Duncan on my mind as well. 
Do you anything about Edgar's growth habit?
Before you get a Dunkin try the fruit. Once you cut the peel off  even if there is little piece of the peel it ruins it for me. It taste like a unripe wild persimmon.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: JulianoGS on March 11, 2021, 04:31:10 PM
Good list there.
Is Fruit punch a large tree? Is it vigorous?

Dwarf Hawaiian Pickering Little Gem Honey Kiss Fruit Punch Glenn
I've been up since 5 I'm a little frazzled right now if I count any higher I will have to take my shoe off.lol
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: EddieF on March 11, 2021, 07:51:53 PM
I planted a maha & pickering, great to see them on list.
Small & haven't sprayed with copper for test just to see how resistant to anthracnose & mildew they are, too young to bare fruit.  They both look clean.  I'll clip them soon.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 11, 2021, 08:18:18 PM
Dwarf Hawaiian Pickering Little Gem Honey Kiss Fruit Punch Glenn
I've been up since 5 I'm a little frazzled right now if I count any higher I will have to take my shoe off.lol
Neelam and Valencia Pride and Kent
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: TonyinCC on March 11, 2021, 08:57:52 PM
Valencia Pride would make my list except it wants to grow into a monster tree. There are a lot of better tasting varieties but it is productive (good to very good fruit) and healthy without spraying. Follow this thread if you want to manage a Valencia Pride, I updated with pics taken a few months ago towards the end. I didn't start the thread but added to it.  If you don't mind topping it at 10-12 feet with a chainsaw every couple years and making it grow multiple competing trunks it could be a good homeowner tree. I spent half a day pruning it and disposing of the prunings. Looks like it will have a nice crop this year.  The same pruning principles work well to make medium varieties into semidwarf  trees.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23979.0
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: weiss613 on March 11, 2021, 09:03:35 PM
This is a question that people who are just getting started need answered. Only a person like Alex at Tropical acres farm can honestly answer or Chris at Truly Tropical or Har or bsbulie and very few others because out of all the available varieties available only they pretty much have grown and worked with and tasted. I started to answer the question and remembered that although I grow 32 varieties with many trees of my top varieties the fact that I have never tasted about 6 of my own varieties means it would be wrong to comment. But that’s not the only reasons. I’ve been growing them from 3 to 18 years but 3 years is not enough years to be commenting on a trees productivity. And what about Miami’s temps being so much warmer than Palm Beach temps. Most trees react differently to these temperature differentials. Some will bloom and be productive in your area and not another. One more thing. I have about 40 Sweet Tarts and there are some that are extremely prolific and some have no fruit and most are about the same age so how can I comment on this sample. So I just could not comment on anything. By me there is no rhyme or reason. Lastly we cause our own problems most of the time. Maybe it’s some things I’ve done that have caused some trees to not to be producing or not to be as productive as I’d like this year so that’s another reason not to voice an opinion.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 11, 2021, 09:35:56 PM
Dwarf Hawaiian Pickering Little Gem Honey Kiss Fruit Punch Glenn
I've been up since 5 I'm a little frazzled right now if I count any higher I will have to take my shoe off.lol
Neelam and Valencia Pride and Kent
And lastly Cac
But Bovine why did you pick Kent
I was trying to get a reaction out of a very knowledgeable person but he is to Wiley to take my bait. My retort was going to be since there's only ten I need one to use as a grafting project :)
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: TonyinCC on March 11, 2021, 10:15:44 PM
Weiss, I hope those experienced forum members and others chime in with some opinions if they have time.
A practical top 10 mango list to maximize taste,productivity,variety of flavor profiles,ease of care including disease resistance and pruning needs, and to maximize length of mango season with 10 or less trees. (and choices for a top 2 or 3 or 5 sub-list from the list for people with less space.
 Part of the problem is that many trees that are able to produce outstanding fruit may not do so consistently for the average homeowner due to a number of issues including disease. Another is that people with room for 3 or 4 trees plant varieties that all ripen at the same time instead of picking the right set of trees that will extend their season to as long as 4-6 months instead of 4-6 weeks or less. If your top 3 favorites ripen at the same time, make a cocktail tree of those varieties with help from the forum and plant 2 other varieties to extend your season.
 Believe me, I understand the excitement of tasting an amazing mango of a new variety and wanting to grow it. 
  I planted many that failed and have several now that I am not optimistic about.  Some, like Little Gem exceeded my expectations and hopes in a short amount of time.  This thread isn't about the 10 absolute best tasting mango fruit, but rather a list of suggestions and comments about trees that deserve space for consideration in a small collection for homeowners. I don't spray my trees and this Summer will be my first with irrigation. Survival of the fittest and of those the best tasting and productive varieties over the longest possible season earn a place in my yard. I also want to cover as many flavor profiles as possible with my choices. I didn't mention many other varieties that died in my yard or that I excluded from consideration due to disease or lack of productivity.
 I got a lot of good info from people like Alex and Rob and others on the forum and am thankful for their help. I am so glad that Pickering was one of my first trees, and I may never have tasted many of my other favorites without this forum and the people posting. I qualified some of the varieties on my list with question marks since I am not sure about them yet but try to share as much info as possible.  A few years can let you know if a tree is precocious and its general growth habit and health. Some varieties can be very productive when finally mature but not start fruiting for 4-5 years. I have had over 100 fruit since planting Little Gem.
 I have planted a few other varieties that have yet to hold fruit at 6 years of age. By that age, Little Gem may have produced 250 cumulative fruit since planting if it keeps producing like this. It would be unfair not to share success stories.  I want to hear as many of those as possible, but hearing about failures can be helpful too. Sometimes someone else can explain why something failed and you try again and have success.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: EddieF on March 12, 2021, 08:00:00 AM
Well said.  I thank this forum & members for my mango & variety education.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 12, 2021, 08:09:32 AM
The original posters criteria was a little vague. Other factors and variables would have to be considered. First the yard available space. If you're from Texas you may have to use binoculars to see your mailbox. Check to make sure your neighbor didn't run it over with his tractor. So potentially you could have room for a couple of vigorous large trees for shade. Secondly What is your consumer base. Is it just your immediate family which could mean 3 or 9+
Thirdly storage capacity do you plan on buying a freezer. Realistically during mango Seasons how many mangoes can you eat in one day? Unless I grab one and put it in my lunch box.For me the answer would be three or four. Since we're talking about 10 trees you could have a short medium and long-range goal. So if a couple of them took 7 or 8 years to come in to production. You would have others online much sooner. Something else to consider is location and the age of the original poster. If you have recently moved to 9b and have a AARP card that has mold on it. You might want an instant mango tree. In my opinion you would probably want a 15 gallon tree that has some hardwood on it for cold protection and a little size to give you a couple years Head Start. :)
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: johnb51 on March 12, 2021, 09:08:40 AM
I thought Kent was no longer considered a good mango to plant due to serious MBBS issues (although some still grow it successfully).
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 12, 2021, 10:03:52 AM
I thought Kent was no longer considered a good mango to plant due to serious MBBS issues (although some still grow it successfully).
I have never tried Kent but it must be good because EddieF is really putting forth the effort to make his tree productive. In nature doesn't fungus consume bacteria?
Is there any or what is the latest treatment for MBBS?
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: TonyinCC on March 12, 2021, 10:26:55 AM
Kent fruit quality is very good if you still have a producing tree. Until recently it was one of the standard later season varieties to plant.  That said, a lot of the newer Zill varieties and other varieties new to Florida have amazing taste. Some of those trees have fruit to die for but people can have issues growing them successfully at the present time with MBBS looming... The good news is older susceptible trees can be topworked with varieties that show resistance thanks to information from this forum. We need a sticky thread on MBBS susceptibility reports so we can collectively get information faster. Maybe a sticky thread on top 10 MBBS tolerant varieties too? So far the most practical treatment is variety choice and/or top working trees, but there is limited info on tolerant/resistant varieties. Alex seems to have the most info in one place on his website in his mango variety descriptions.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: JulianoGS on March 12, 2021, 02:31:49 PM
This is a question that people who are just getting started need answered. Only a person like Alex at Tropical acres farm can honestly answer or Chris at Truly Tropical or Har or bsbulie and very few others because out of all the available varieties available only they pretty much have grown and worked with and tasted. I started to answer the question and remembered that although I grow 32 varieties with many trees of my top varieties the fact that I have never tasted about 6 of my own varieties means it would be wrong to comment. But that’s not the only reasons. I’ve been growing them from 3 to 18 years but 3 years is not enough years to be commenting on a trees productivity. And what about Miami’s temps being so much warmer than Palm Beach temps. Most trees react differently to these temperature differentials. Some will bloom and be productive in your area and not another. One more thing. I have about 40 Sweet Tarts and there are some that are extremely prolific and some have no fruit and most are about the same age so how can I comment on this sample. So I just could not comment on anything. By me there is no rhyme or reason. Lastly we cause our own problems most of the time. Maybe it’s some things I’ve done that have caused some trees to not to be producing or not to be as productive as I’d like this year so that’s another reason not to voice an opinion.

We are in this forum for a reason, to learn from each other and to share that knowledge along with our own experiences.  We understand that what worked for one, may not necessarily work for another.  But you certainly have some experience with mangos, 32 varieties - impressive work!  From those 32, which ones are your top ten trees?  Thanks for commenting and sharing.  ;)
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: sumognat on March 12, 2021, 03:37:05 PM
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I inherited some mature mango trees when we bought our current house in 2016.  I finally figured out one was a Kent, the other a NDM, and the third I have no idea yet because we had to rehab it and it looks to have a couple of fruits this year.  The Kent, I am guessing, fell over during a hurricane and the prior owner never righted the tree upright.

My Kent is by far an incredible producer; here's a picture from last year after I harvested most of the fruit.  It tastes great, but, yeah, probably not as complex and sweet as some of these newer varieties I have not tried yet.  The Kents are super juicy, peachy, meaty mangoes--nothing like a gross supermarket mango.  Great for giving away to people or shipping off to your friends/family in the colder climate.  Yes, it can BBS on the outside of the fruit and you don't want to let it get too ripe on the tree, but that's not a big deal since you can pick when almost ripe and let them ripen in your house.  I don't spray my trees with fungicide, live practically in the Everglades, and the area under the mango trees is frequently flooded during the summertime.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 12, 2021, 03:43:09 PM
This is a question that people who are just getting started need answered. Only a person like Alex at Tropical acres farm can honestly answer or Chris at Truly Tropical or Har or bsbulie and very few others because out of all the available varieties available only they pretty much have grown and worked with and tasted. I started to answer the question and remembered that although I grow 32 varieties with many trees of my top varieties the fact that I have never tasted about 6 of my own varieties means it would be wrong to comment. But that’s not the only reasons. I’ve been growing them from 3 to 18 years but 3 years is not enough years to be commenting on a trees productivity. And what about Miami’s temps being so much warmer than Palm Beach temps. Most trees react differently to these temperature differentials. Some will bloom and be productive in your area and not another. One more thing. I have about 40 Sweet Tarts and there are some that are extremely prolific and some have no fruit and most are about the same age so how can I comment on this sample. So I just could not comment on anything. By me there is no rhyme or reason. Lastly we cause our own problems most of the time. Maybe it’s some things I’ve done that have caused some trees to not to be producing or not to be as productive as I’d like this year so that’s another reason not to voice an opinion.

We are in this forum for a reason, to learn from each other and to share that knowledge along with our own experiences.  We understand that what worked for one, may not necessarily work for another.  But you certainly have some experience with mangos, 32 varieties - impressive work!  From those 32, which ones are your top ten trees?  Thanks for commenting and sharing.  ;)
Let me take a whack at this. I'm going to put this to you in a different way. Hypothetically if your family your neighbors your HOA and local code enforcement.  Even the top Guru in India on mangoes.They all have determined that you have mango Obsession syndrome. To cure this they have determined and mandated that you must only keep 10 varieties! All the rest have to be dug up and given to random strangers. To help facilitate this effort code enforcement has contacted the Road and Bridge Department and they will provide a excavator in your efforts. This is entirely for your own good. You have 48 hours to make a decision! After that time has elapsed if you have not made your decision you will lose all of your trees :'(
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 12, 2021, 03:44:39 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/5HrQCW8n/IMG-1099.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5HrQCW8n)

I inherited some mature mango trees when we bought our current house in 2016.  I finally figured out one was a Kent, the other a NDM, and the third I have no idea yet because we had to rehab it and it looks to have a couple of fruits this year.  The Kent, I am guessing, fell over during a hurricane and the prior owner never righted the tree upright.

My Kent is by far an incredible producer; here's a picture from last year after I harvested most of the fruit.  It tastes great, but, yeah, probably not as complex and sweet as some of these newer varieties I have not tried yet.  The Kents are super juicy, peachy, meaty mangoes--nothing like a gross supermarket mango.  Great for giving away to people or shipping off to your friends/family in the colder climate.  Yes, it can BBS on the outside of the fruit and you don't want to let it get too ripe on the tree, but that's not a big deal since you can pick when almost ripe and let them ripen in your house.  I don't spray my trees with fungicide, live practically in the Everglades, and the area under the mango trees is frequently flooded during the summertime.
:)
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: achetadomestica on March 12, 2021, 04:32:29 PM
Can I have 11?
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 12, 2021, 05:07:40 PM
Can I have 11?
As long as you're not suffering from Mango Obsession syndrome. Of course you can have  11  :)
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: JulianoGS on March 12, 2021, 05:15:30 PM
Can I have 11?
As long as you're not suffering from Mango Obsession syndrome. Of course you can have  11  :)


Dont we all have this mango obsession? Hence why we are here talking about mangos. lol :P
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: JulianoGS on March 12, 2021, 05:20:07 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/5HrQCW8n/IMG-1099.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5HrQCW8n)

I inherited some mature mango trees when we bought our current house in 2016.  I finally figured out one was a Kent, the other a NDM, and the third I have no idea yet because we had to rehab it and it looks to have a couple of fruits this year.  The Kent, I am guessing, fell over during a hurricane and the prior owner never righted the tree upright.

My Kent is by far an incredible producer; here's a picture from last year after I harvested most of the fruit.  It tastes great, but, yeah, probably not as complex and sweet as some of these newer varieties I have not tried yet.  The Kents are super juicy, peachy, meaty mangoes--nothing like a gross supermarket mango.  Great for giving away to people or shipping off to your friends/family in the colder climate.  Yes, it can BBS on the outside of the fruit and you don't want to let it get too ripe on the tree, but that's not a big deal since you can pick when almost ripe and let them ripen in your house.  I don't spray my trees with fungicide, live practically in the Everglades, and the area under the mango trees is frequently flooded during the summertime.

Kent is very nice mango, juicy, refreshing, big in size, ate many of those, really like that you can eat a mango in September.  There was a lady in CS and everyone would want her mangos, one day she chopped the tree down. Nice tree that was always loaded year after year, what a waste.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 12, 2021, 05:35:15 PM
Can I have 11?
As long as you're not suffering from Mango Obsession syndrome. Of course you can have  11  :)
You my friend recognize your obsession so that is a healthy obsession. It's when you're in total denial of the obsession that it becomes problematic.

Dont we all have this mango obsession? Hence why we are here talking about mangos. lol :P
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: JulianoGS on March 12, 2021, 05:42:29 PM
Can I have 11?
As long as you're not suffering from Mango Obsession syndrome. Of course you can have  11  :)
You my friend recognize your obsession so that is a healthy obsession. It's when you're in total denial of the obsession that it becomes problematic.

Dont we all have this mango obsession? Hence why we are here talking about mangos. lol :P

Indeed, first step recognize the mango obsession, second step; get more mango trees - even if you dont have the space for it.  ;D
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 12, 2021, 05:49:56 PM
Can I have 11?
As long as you're not suffering from Mango Obsession syndrome. Of course you can have  11  :)
You my friend recognize your obsession so that is a healthy obsession. It's when you're in total denial of the obsession that it becomes problematic.

Dont we all have this mango obsession? Hence why we are here talking about mangos. lol :P

Indeed, first step recognize the mango obsession, second step; get more mango trees - even if you dont have the space for it.  ;D
That is so very true
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Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: weiss613 on March 13, 2021, 02:36:29 AM
OK you are squeezing it out of me. Location South Miami/Kendall.
#1 most productive by a factor of 5 is Sweet Tart
#2 is Pickering
Remember
We’re talking production
#’s 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 in no order
Haden
Hatcher
Glenn
Juicy peach
Spirit of 76
Cotton Candy/Candy Cotton
9 and 10
Lemon Zest
Pineapple Pleasure
Contact me and come down and see for yourself if you so desire.
Lastly one can never forget the stupendous potential of Valencia Pride and Keitt and Rosigold.
My first tree was a Haden in the mid 80’s and I hated the turpentine flavor which I used to call gasoline flavored. Never ate it again. Never ate a mango again till I tasted Glenn in the early 90’s. This variety was shockingly edible and good. I can appreciate a spicy mango like Dwarf Hawaiians but intensely dislike Maha. So this is how my tastes run.
My favorite ones now are and yes in order
Pineapple Pleasure
Sugar Loaf
Lemon Zest/Lemon Meringue
Sweet Tart
Kathy
Glenn
This is some of what I have
Lemon Z 52 trees
Sweet T 44
Orange sherbet 26
Cotton Candy 26
Lemon M 14
Pineapple P 12
Sugar Loaf 13
M-4 8
Orange E 5
Pickering 2
Buttercream 6
Fruit punch 5
Peach Cobbler 4
Coconut C 4
Pina Colada 4
Keitt 4
Etc etc etc
What varieties I’m most disappointed in this season as far as production
LM
PC
Phoenix
Venus
Coconut Cream
Harvest Moon
Kathy but it’s in a dark space
Fruit punch
But all my trees had extensive pruning last year so it may not be their fault for not producing.
Sweet Tart is a dream in every way. I hope it’s relative Kathy will be as great because it has a not describable taste that is sooo delicious and I’m planting about 12 more.

Sweet Tart insanity in the photo

(https://i.postimg.cc/TLsrTNYG/BD336274-020-E-4-FE0-A121-65-FCB5-B4-F221.png) (https://postimg.cc/TLsrTNYG)
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 13, 2021, 05:45:48 AM
OK you are squeezing it out of me. Location South Miami/Kendall.
#1 most productive by a factor of 5 is Sweet Tart
#2 is Pickering
Remember
We’re talking production
#’s 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 in no order
Haden
Hatcher
Glenn
Juicy peach
Spirit of 76
Cotton Candy/Candy Cotton
9 and 10
Lemon Zest
Pineapple Pleasure
Contact me and come down and see for yourself if you so desire.
Lastly one can never forget the stupendous potential of Valencia Pride and Keitt and Rosigold.
My first tree was a Haden in the mid 80’s and I hated the turpentine flavor which I used to call gasoline flavored. Never ate it again. Never ate a mango again till I tasted Glenn in the early 90’s. This variety was shockingly edible and good. I can appreciate a spicy mango like Dwarf Hawaiians but intensely dislike Maha. So this is how my tastes run.
My favorite ones now are and yes in order
Pineapple Pleasire
Sugar Loaf
Lemon Zest/Lemon Merigue
Sweet Tart
Kathy
Glenn
This is some of what I have
Lemon Z 52 trees
Sweet T 44
Orange sherbet 26
Cotton Candy 26
Lemon M 14
Pineapple P 12
Sugar Loaf 13
M-4 8
Orange E 5
Pickering 2
Buttercream 6
Fruit punch 5
Peach Cobbler 4
Coconut C 4
Pina Colada 4
Keitt 4
Etc etc etc
What varieties I’m most disappointed in this season as far as production
LM
PC
Phoenix
Venus
Coconut Cream
Harvest Moon
Kathy but it’s in a dark space
Fruit punch
But all my trees had extensive pruning last year so it may not be their fault for not producing.
Sweet Tart is a dream in every way. I hope it’s relative Kathy will be as great because it has a not describable taste that is sooo delicious and I’m planting about 12 more.

Sweet Tart insanity in the photo

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Thank you! I find that information to be very useful.
I was in complete denial but now I do realize I have mango Obsession syndrome. Last season I purchased and gave away two dwarf Hawaiians a 15-gallon Duncan and 1 rose gold and an oriental type that I can't even pronounce or spell its name. This season I have 3 custom grafted trees ordered I will keep one and give the other two to friends in South Florida I have tried to convince my neighbor to sell me her property not because I need extra rooms but I need more space to plant mango trees. If I was younger and had time on my side. I would sell out and buy a bigger piece of property to start over. I am very happy where I am living. I have a beautiful property with a very nice view. I just wish I could go on Google Earth and stretch my property to fit in a few more mango trees :)  ;)  :D
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Must buy more mangoes
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 13, 2021, 07:35:24 AM
OK you are squeezing it out of me. Location South Miami/Kendall.
#1 most productive by a factor of 5 is Sweet Tart
#2 is Pickering
Remember
We’re talking production
#’s 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 in no order
Haden
Hatcher
Glenn
Juicy peach
Spirit of 76
Cotton Candy/Candy Cotton
9 and 10
Lemon Zest
Pineapple Pleasure
Contact me and come down and see for yourself if you so desire.
Lastly one can never forget the stupendous potential of Valencia Pride and Keitt and Rosigold.
My first tree was a Haden in the mid 80’s and I hated the turpentine flavor which I used to call gasoline flavored. Never ate it again. Never ate a mango again till I tasted Glenn in the early 90’s. This variety was shockingly edible and good. I can appreciate a spicy mango like Dwarf Hawaiians but intensely dislike Maha. So this is how my tastes run.
My favorite ones now are and yes in order
Pineapple Pleasire
Sugar Loaf
Lemon Zest/Lemon Merigue
Sweet Tart
Kathy
Glenn
This is some of what I have
Lemon Z 52 trees
Sweet T 44
Orange sherbet 26
Cotton Candy 26
Lemon M 14
Pineapple P 12
Sugar Loaf 13
M-4 8
Orange E 5
Pickering 2
Buttercream 6
Fruit punch 5
Peach Cobbler 4
Coconut C 4
Pina Colada 4
Keitt 4
Etc etc etc
What varieties I’m most disappointed in this season as far as production
LM
PC
Phoenix
Venus
Coconut Cream
Harvest Moon
Kathy but it’s in a dark space
Fruit punch
But all my trees had extensive pruning last year so it may not be their fault for not producing.
Sweet Tart is a dream in every way. I hope it’s relative Kathy will be as great because it has a not describable taste that is sooo delicious and I’m planting about 12 more.

Sweet Tart insanity in the photo

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From a backyard Growers standpoint what is the minimum size you feel that a vigorous sweet tart can be kept. I don't necessarily mind A reduced crop. Fore it is just me and my wife. I'm not trying to feed Sherman's Army. Do you do a hard pruning every other year and does that cause it to not bear any fruit at all or just a reduced crop. How much can a sweet tart branches grow in one season 5 or 6 ft? I remember reading an old Cookie Monster thread that he stated once the tree gets the size that you want it. If it grows five or six feet in one season you just cut it back that much to maintain the size that you want. I'm assuming he is thinking of more of a commercial size of 12 Iby12 or 15 x 15
 How small have you been able to keep one and still get a acceptable crop for you and your significant other?

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Sweet tart is being a sweetheart this year :)
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: achetadomestica on March 13, 2021, 08:21:57 AM

My first tree was a Haden in the mid 80’s and I hated the turpentine flavor which I used to call gasoline flavored. Never ate it again. Never ate a mango again till I tasted Glenn in the early 90’s. This variety was shockingly edible and good.


This reminded me in the 90s I had a Jamaican lady that lived next door.
She planted every seed from every fruit she ate for 15 years. After she ran out of
room in her yard she bought the lot behind her and kept on going.
One day she had picked some mangos from one of her trees and she offered me
some. It was the most awful fibrous worst mango ever. It had very little flesh and
I assumed all mangos were like this. I didn't eat mangos for 20 years after that.
She moved up North and eventually died in her 90s. My brother still goes back
to that lot and picks mangos every year. She has some wonderful seedling mangos
as well as the stinker I ate that day. I have only realized what I was missing the
past 10 years and I feel like I have to make up for the 20 lost years.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: achetadomestica on March 13, 2021, 08:32:57 AM

 I have tried to convince my neighbor to sell me her property not because I need extra rooms but I need more space to plant mango trees. If I was younger and had time on my side. I would sell out and buy a bigger piece of property to start over. I am very happy where I am living. I have a beautiful property with a very nice view. I just wish I could go on Google Earth and stretch my property to fit in a few more mango trees :)  ;)  :D


I have a Nature Park close to me that I have been slowly turning into a fruit park.
The park is next to a river and very heavy canopy. Better cold tolerance then my yard.
I have planted seedling mangos and loquats in sunny areas along with muntingia, In the
shaded areas I planted some garcinias. I also save up avocado seeds and plant them
throughout. One day I planted some suriname cherry seeds and several mulberry starters.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 13, 2021, 09:45:55 AM

My first tree was a Haden in the mid 80’s and I hated the turpentine flavor which I used to call gasoline flavored. Never ate it again. Never ate a mango again till I tasted Glenn in the early 90’s. This variety was shockingly edible and good.


This reminded me in the 90s I had a Jamaican lady that lived next door.
She planted every seed from every fruit she ate for 15 years. After she ran out of
room in her yard she bought the lot behind her and kept on going.
One day she had picked some mangos from one of her trees and she offered me
some. It was the most awful fibrous worst mango ever. It had very little flesh and
I assumed all mangos were like this. I didn't eat mangos for 20 years after that.
She moved up North and eventually died in her 90s. My brother still goes back
to that lot and picks mangos every year. She has some wonderful seedling mangos
as well as the stinker I ate that day. I have only realized what I was missing the
past 10 years and I feel like I have to make up for the 20 lost years.
That Rings a very familiar note to me
My eighty-year-old mother-in-law planted that avocado tree + years ago. Hopefully it will have halfway decent fruit. She was the oldest child of her family.She had to work  the banana plantation so her brothers and sisters could go to school. Every day she feels the need to touch the Earth.
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Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: weiss613 on March 13, 2021, 11:52:49 AM
response to
From a backyard Growers standpoint what is the minimum size you feel that a vigorous sweet tart can be kept. I don't necessarily mind A reduced crop. Fore it is just me and my wife. I'm not trying to feed Sherman's Army. Do you do a hard pruning every other year and does that cause it to not bear any fruit at all or just a reduced crop. How much can a sweet tart branches grow in one season 5 or 6 ft? I remember reading an old Cookie Monster thread that he stated once the tree gets the size that you want it. If it grows five or six feet in one season you just cut it back that much to maintain the size that you want. I'm assuming he is thinking of more of a commercial size of 12 Iby12 or 15 x 15
 How small have you been able to keep one and still get a acceptable crop for you and your significant other?

I don't sell my fruit so I have zero worries or disappointments when it comes to yield. This year I can say that only about 15-20% of the surface area of all my trees flowered and is holding fruit. I live in a nice residential area with all kinds of rules from the homeowner's assoc so my trees have to be neat and clean looking in my lawn so every year I cut them back to 6-12 feet and trim around them. I might let them grow out for the 22 season????? But definitely yes hard pruning and nitrogen can mess up productivity.
In Israel and India they grow 1000 mango trees/acre and keep them at 6'
But I love the very hard work during the hottest part of the summer when they are ready to be pruned and shaped as I feel this work is important for my 71 y/o health and longevity.
As far as Sweet Tart size and productivity I'll take video and put it here so you know exactly and can judge for yourself what is possible.

https://youtu.be/E3sUqNaeB4U

Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 13, 2021, 02:47:48 PM
response to
From a backyard Growers standpoint what is the minimum size you feel that a vigorous sweet tart can be kept. I don't necessarily mind A reduced crop. Fore it is just me and my wife. I'm not trying to feed Sherman's Army. Do you do a hard pruning every other year and does that cause it to not bear any fruit at all or just a reduced crop. How much can a sweet tart branches grow in one season 5 or 6 ft? I remember reading an old Cookie Monster thread that he stated once the tree gets the size that you want it. If it grows five or six feet in one season you just cut it back that much to maintain the size that you want. I'm assuming he is thinking of more of a commercial size of 12 Iby12 or 15 x 15
 How small have you been able to keep one and still get a acceptable crop for you and your significant other?

I don't sell my fruit so I have zero worries or disappointments when it comes to yield. This year I can say that only about 15-20% of the surface area of all my trees flowered and is holding fruit. I live in a nice residential area with all kinds of rules from the homeowner's assoc so my trees have to be neat and clean looking in my lawn so every year I cut them back to 6-12 feet and trim around them. I might let them grow out for the 22 season????? But definitely yes hard pruning and nitrogen can mess up productivity.
In Israel and India they grow 1000 mango trees/acre and keep them at 6'
But I love the very hard work during the hottest part of the summer when they are ready to be pruned and shaped as I feel this work is important for my 71 y/o health and longevity.
As far as Sweet Tart size and productivity I'll take video and put it here so you know exactly and can judge for yourself what is possible.

https://youtu.be/E3sUqNaeB4U
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What's up doc! Do you think your neighbors would mind if I spent the summer parked next to your curb.lol

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Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: weiss613 on March 13, 2021, 02:55:48 PM
Who told you I’m a doctor? Guess who my patients are!
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 13, 2021, 03:03:07 PM
Who told you I’m a doctor? Guess who my patients are!
Did not know that I am a big fan of Bugs Bunny so can I stay ?
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 13, 2021, 03:25:55 PM
Just to show everyone that I do not have MOS I bought this Dwarf Tropical Red guava
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Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: EddieF on March 13, 2021, 03:37:37 PM
Kent- this summer i'll have to bring a mango to a knowledgable mango nut to see if my tree is indeed Kent.
It fits the bill for monster if left untamed, anthracnose constant battle, orange flesh with fiber but 10x sweeter then any Kent from Publix & Walmart.

I do not recommend Kent if it is.  I love it though, and wish i knew similar taste disease resistant tree. 
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: johnb51 on March 13, 2021, 04:45:23 PM
Speaking of a mango obsession, I just read last night that although the Queen (of England, of course) is very picky about what she eats and generally will eat only what's organic and in season, preferably grown or raised on one of her estates, she does have a mango obsession and insists that mangos are always available to her.  Say what you want about her, that old girl knows good food (which has gotten her to 94 years of age)!  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on March 13, 2021, 06:57:55 PM
Speaking of a mango obsession, I just read last night that although the Queen (of England, of course) is very picky about what she eats and generally will eat only what's organic and in season, preferably grown or raised on one of her estates, she does have a mango obsession and insists that mangos are always available to her.  Say what you want about her, that old girl knows good food (which has gotten her to 94 years of age)!  ;D ;D
The Queen isn't the only one who has an obsession with mangoes
If you read the very fine writing on the Ancient Sumerian tablets the Anunnaki we're not here only for our gold. They were mostly interested in our mangoes. Our ancient ancestors not only had to dig gold they also picked mangoes. That came straight from George Noory on Coast to Coast AM LOL
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Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: Tropicdude on March 14, 2021, 06:34:20 PM
Kinda ticked at my Edgar, in 2019 It produced maybe 5 fruit, after harvest, I gave it a hard prune, sine the tree was getting way to big, so understandably I did not expect anything in 2020, and I was right. but this season, I expected a lot of flowering,  which I got.  but all I see are maybe 8 pea sized fruit.

on the other hand, the cotton candy, which is a younger tree, is loaded with fruit,  first time flowering.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: weiss613 on March 14, 2021, 09:09:46 PM
Yes about Cotton Candy. I have 26 that are in the ground from 3-5 years. Just about every one of them has a satisfying crop. Not one upon the other like Sweet Tart but really every Cotton Candy has fruit. This is in Miami. Cotton Candy is a reliable tree.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: RollingInTheWeeds on March 15, 2021, 02:19:38 PM
Edgar is very precocious and productive and this will help limit the size of the tree. I actually had to let new higher scaffold branches grow after the fruit was gone since they were so weighted down with fruit last year they were bent downwards. I had to cut them off and let it regrow some more vertically oriented  branches.  Setting fruit on the new upper scaffolds now. Looks like it will be an easily managed tree.

@TonyinCC, how far off the ground are you talking about (both the first set of scaffolds and the second)?
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: FlMikey on March 15, 2021, 04:36:33 PM
Not sure if all of these constitute a "small" tree, but Truly Tropical put together a list of 10: https://youtu.be/g3zv2E6glO8

For those who don't want to watch the entire video, see below

Duncan
Keitt
Turpentine
Rosa
Dwarf Hawaiian
Sweet Tart
K3/Kathy
Pickering
Honey Kiss
Venus




Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: TonyinCC on March 17, 2021, 06:14:58 AM
Edgar is very precocious and productive and this will help limit the size of the tree. I actually had to let new higher scaffold branches grow after the fruit was gone since they were so weighted down with fruit last year they were bent downwards. I had to cut them off and let it regrow some more vertically oriented  branches.  Setting fruit on the new upper scaffolds now. Looks like it will be an easily managed tree.

@TonyinCC, how far off the ground are you talking about (both the first set of scaffolds and the second)?

Here is a pic from yesterday. The lowest branch had to come completely off and is almost healed over. You can see the lowest current scaffold is close to horizontal coming off the trunk. I will probably remove it later this year. The tree will hold a lot of fruit early on but the branches just can't handle it. I would advise thinning fruit to keep branches from bending TOO much in the early years. For comparison, Edgar had a structure like the Cotton Candy tree in the background before last year's crop, Edgar must have had about 50 fruit.  Cotton Candy set its first crop last year of 13 fruit and looks like it would hold 50 this year but I will thin that one this year if nature doesn't.
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Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bsbullie on March 17, 2021, 07:44:24 AM
Not sure if all of these constitute a "small" tree, but Truly Tropical put together a list of 10: https://youtu.be/g3zv2E6glO8

For those who don't want to watch the entire video, see below

Duncan
Keitt
Turpentine
Rosa
Dwarf Hawaiian
Sweet Tart
K3/Kathy
Pickering
Honey Kiss
Venus

Oye...Duncan, Keitt, Turpentine and Sweet Tart are not small trees.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: Sunrisefruit on March 17, 2021, 12:28:57 PM
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I inherited some mature mango trees when we bought our current house in 2016.  I finally figured out one was a Kent, the other a NDM, and the third I have no idea yet because we had to rehab it and it looks to have a couple of fruits this year.  The Kent, I am guessing, fell over during a hurricane and the prior owner never righted the tree upright.

My Kent is by far an incredible producer; here's a picture from last year after I harvested most of the fruit.  It tastes great, but, yeah, probably not as complex and sweet as some of these newer varieties I have not tried yet.  The Kents are super juicy, peachy, meaty mangoes--nothing like a gross supermarket mango.  Great for giving away to people or shipping off to your friends/family in the colder climate.  Yes, it can BBS on the outside of the fruit and you don't want to let it get too ripe on the tree, but that's not a big deal since you can pick when almost ripe and let them ripen in your house.  I don't spray my trees with fungicide, live practically in the Everglades, and the area under the mango trees is frequently flooded during the summertime.

I too inherited a Kent Mango tree when I bought my house.. it is one of the best Mangoes that I have tasted..
the tree is a heavy producer, every year, the mangoes are huge and tasty..
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: EddieF on March 17, 2021, 08:08:21 PM
Brought home 3gal Orange Sherbet today.  Plant tomorrow.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: Honest Abe on March 22, 2021, 09:09:59 PM
I am no way qualified to answer your questions and taste is purely subjective BUT

My favorite tasting mangoes (also Keep In mind  only tasted 51 cultivars)

Sugarloaf
Karen Michelle
Baileys Marvel
Second crop Duncan
Maha Chanok
Iman Passand
Edward


Literally all the others have ranged from unimpressive-just good to me in my life

I’ve yet to taste over 500  varieties I know of  that I’d like to taste before I die.

In my limited experience in growing in my yard:

Baileys marvel is a good looking tree with nice production and disease resistance and great taste.

Keitt is a scraggly tree with great taste, great production and ooor disease resistance

Sugarloaf is a nice tree with low production and fair disease resistance

NDM looks nice, has some anthracnose in foliage and has not yet produced in 3 years.

Coco cream is ugly and hasn’t produced

Pickering is a slow grower for me and I’m
Not very impressed with taste.

.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: Brev Grower on March 23, 2021, 03:41:13 PM
My 10 or so must have trees:

Carrie: Taste, disease resistance, and manageable tree.
Sweet Tart: Taste, Productivity, disease resistance.
Bailey's Marvel - Taste
Lemon Zest - Taste
Rosigold - very early season, productivity, manageable tree
Venus - Taste, productivity, disease resistance
Cotton Candy - Taste, productivity, seems to have good disease resistance at my place first two seasons fruiting
Fruit Punch - Productivity, Taste, and looks like good disease resistance at my place
Pickering - Productivity and tree size
Lemon Merengue - Taste, productivity
Honey kiss - productivity, tree size, late season
Keitt - Taste, productivity, manageable tree, latest season
Dwarf Hawaiian - productivity, tree size, early season
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: JulianoGS on April 06, 2021, 05:17:51 PM
Impressive man!  Thanks for all the info shared.
And yes I would like to come down and see it all for myself.
Spicy mangos rocks! 
Sweet tart is really good, just perfect!

OK you are squeezing it out of me. Location South Miami/Kendall.
#1 most productive by a factor of 5 is Sweet Tart
#2 is Pickering
Remember
We’re talking production
#’s 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 in no order
Haden
Hatcher
Glenn
Juicy peach
Spirit of 76
Cotton Candy/Candy Cotton
9 and 10
Lemon Zest
Pineapple Pleasure
Contact me and come down and see for yourself if you so desire.
Lastly one can never forget the stupendous potential of Valencia Pride and Keitt and Rosigold.
My first tree was a Haden in the mid 80’s and I hated the turpentine flavor which I used to call gasoline flavored. Never ate it again. Never ate a mango again till I tasted Glenn in the early 90’s. This variety was shockingly edible and good. I can appreciate a spicy mango like Dwarf Hawaiians but intensely dislike Maha. So this is how my tastes run.
My favorite ones now are and yes in order
Pineapple Pleasure
Sugar Loaf
Lemon Zest/Lemon Meringue
Sweet Tart
Kathy
Glenn
This is some of what I have
Lemon Z 52 trees
Sweet T 44
Orange sherbet 26
Cotton Candy 26
Lemon M 14
Pineapple P 12
Sugar Loaf 13
M-4 8
Orange E 5
Pickering 2
Buttercream 6
Fruit punch 5
Peach Cobbler 4
Coconut C 4
Pina Colada 4
Keitt 4
Etc etc etc
What varieties I’m most disappointed in this season as far as production
LM
PC
Phoenix
Venus
Coconut Cream
Harvest Moon
Kathy but it’s in a dark space
Fruit punch
But all my trees had extensive pruning last year so it may not be their fault for not producing.
Sweet Tart is a dream in every way. I hope it’s relative Kathy will be as great because it has a not describable taste that is sooo delicious and I’m planting about 12 more.

Sweet Tart insanity in the photo

(https://i.postimg.cc/TLsrTNYG/BD336274-020-E-4-FE0-A121-65-FCB5-B4-F221.png) (https://postimg.cc/TLsrTNYG)
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: bovine421 on April 06, 2021, 08:26:26 PM
Impressive man!  Thanks for all the info shared.
And yes I would like to come down and see it all for myself.
Spicy mangos rocks! 
Sweet tart is really good, just perfect!

OK you are squeezing it out of me. Location South Miami/Kendall.
#1 most productive by a factor of 5 is Sweet Tart
#2 is Pickering
Remember
We’re talking production
#’s 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 in no order
Haden
Hatcher
Glenn
Juicy peach
Spirit of 76
Cotton Candy/Candy Cotton
9 and 10
Lemon Zest
Pineapple Pleasure
Contact me and come down and see for yourself if you so desire.
Lastly one can never forget the stupendous potential of Valencia Pride and Keitt and Rosigold.
My first tree was a Haden in the mid 80’s and I hated the turpentine flavor which I used to call gasoline flavored. Never ate it again. Never ate a mango again till I tasted Glenn in the early 90’s. This variety was shockingly edible and good. I can appreciate a spicy mango like Dwarf Hawaiians but intensely dislike Maha. So this is how my tastes run.
My favorite ones now are and yes in order
Pineapple Pleasure
Sugar Loaf
Lemon Zest/Lemon Meringue
Sweet Tart
Kathy
Glenn
This is some of what I have
Lemon Z 52 trees
Sweet T 44
Orange sherbet 26
Cotton Candy 26
Lemon M 14
Pineapple P 12
Sugar Loaf 13
M-4 8
Orange E 5
Pickering 2
Buttercream 6
Fruit punch 5
Peach Cobbler 4
Coconut C 4
Pina Colada 4
Keitt 4
Etc etc etc
What varieties I’m most disappointed in this season as far as production
LM
PC
Phoenix
Venus
Coconut Cream
Harvest Moon
Kathy but it’s in a dark space
Fruit punch
But all my trees had extensive pruning last year so it may not be their fault for not producing.
Sweet Tart is a dream in every way. I hope it’s relative Kathy will be as great because it has a not describable taste that is sooo delicious and I’m planting about 12 more.

Sweet Tart insanity in the photo

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Buttercream versus Venus
weiss613 or anybody else.
How would you compare the flavors of these two. Similar or does one of them have more of a sub acid tart component to it.
I was contemplating on grafting Venus but I read that it may have mbbs issues. Looking for a good alternative.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: Tropicdude on April 07, 2021, 06:31:04 PM
Quote
Pickering is a slow grower for me and I’m
Not very impressed with taste.

My oldest tree is the Pickering, it is naturally dwarfish, which is one of it's selling points. very reliable producer.

as for taste,  I have learned that Pickering really needs to ripen on the tree before picking, I mean really ripen, picking before fully ripe they just won't have much sweetness or flavor.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: TonyinCC on April 07, 2021, 07:31:27 PM
Even then, Pickering is better if finished off the tree a few days before eating...
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: Julie on April 08, 2021, 01:15:04 AM
Carrie is the best mango I’ve tasted. Normally it is productive and disease resistant but this year it was not super productive and is suffering from nutritional deficiencies which I believe is due to the drought. I’ve applied azomite and started watering it to see if this will help.

Second best is orange sherbet which I have recently planted a tree and it is extremely healthy and productive so far.

I also have Pickering, keitt and Glenn. Glen is not that flavorful but tree ripened fruit is good. However glen is a favorite of children.

For me I have a 20 year old keitt and mine is a small tree/slow grower.

I look forward to trying some more of the top tier sill varieties this summer and adding more trees to my yard!
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: johnb51 on April 08, 2021, 09:20:26 AM
When I had an overabundance of Pickering and Angie mangos, I would give them away to lots of neighbors.  Everyone would comment that they were the best mangos they ever tasted, or that they didn't know mangos could taste so good.  The average person has so little experience and knowledge of mangos!
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: skhan on April 08, 2021, 12:19:16 PM
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Pickering is a slow grower for me and I’m
Not very impressed with taste.

My oldest tree is the Pickering, it is naturally dwarfish, which is one of it's selling points. very reliable producer.

as for taste,  I have learned that Pickering really needs to ripen on the tree before picking, I mean really ripen, picking before fully ripe they just won't have much sweetness or flavor.

Completely agreed on taste.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: skhan on April 08, 2021, 12:22:09 PM

Buttercream versus Venus
weiss613 or anybody else.
How would you compare the flavors of these two. Similar or does one of them have more of a sub acid tart component to it.
I was contemplating on grafting Venus but I read that it may have mbbs issues. Looking for a good alternative.

I love both of these. Worth having both IMO.
Buttercream doesn't really have a subacid component (at least the way i prefer to eat it)
Venus is great too but yeh the MBBS can be a problem.
Title: Re: Top ten tree mango list
Post by: JulianoGS on April 09, 2021, 11:42:20 AM
My list so far, should I add cogshall?

Fruit Punch
Sugar Loaf
Sweet Tart
Pickering
Duncan
Carrie
Glenn
Keitt
Julie
M4