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Plantinyum:
Has anyone attempted to graft pear onto apple? I red some on this matter and it seems u need a specific interstock for the graft to strike. I also found that quince is also compatible with apple and pear, for this I have living example of a large fruited pear ,grafted onto a quince.
Now the thing is I have a apple tree on which I would like if possible to add a pear variety or two...the pears I am thinking of grafting are varieties not clear to me . As general the information states that for such grafting u need specific varieties for both the rootstock and the graft. What are your recommendations , thanks in advance !!

shiro:
From my experience I grafted pear trees on apple trees and I obtained a good vigour the first year and it died the second year.
On the other hand I have already succeeded in grafting apple and pear trees on medlar (as a specific interstock).
I also know that the ( cydolus rudenkova ) can be used to obtain apple and pear on the same tree if it is used as specific interstock.

Plantinyum:

--- Quote from: shiro on December 10, 2020, 08:10:09 PM ---From my experience I grafted pear trees on apple trees and I obtained a good vigour the first year and it died the second year.
On the other hand I have already succeeded in grafting apple and pear trees on medlar (as a specific interstock).
I also know that the ( cydolus rudenkova ) can be used to obtain apple and pear on the same tree if it is used as specific interstock.

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thanks for your reply. Can u explain do u use the medlar as a intertstock on say apple and then graft the pear onto it,? Or u just grafted both onto a medlar rootstock ?
I am wondering if this can be made in one shot, like graft the pear onto the medlar interstock and then the medlar onto the apple ...I just want to skip the one year waiting between the two grafting processes.
Also the successful  ones, for how long are they growing for u ?

SoCal2warm:
If you want to attempt a graft like this, it's probably better to select two varieties that have a more similar rate of growth to each other.

For example, possibly a slower growing variety of apple. It is believed one of the reasons for delayed graft failure is differing rates of growth.

Also, some varieties may be more compatible than other varieties. 'Winter Banana' apple is one such variety.

shiro:
The medlar is grafted on hawthorn (crataegus monogyna) and then I grafted pear and apple.
See this link: https://www.greffer.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=7013

The cydolus is also a good candidate.
See this link: https://www.greffer.net/discussion/viewtopic.php?p=67612#p67612

For the moment I don't have enough hindsight to say if this graft is viable for a very long time.

SoCal2warm If we were worried about late failure we would not use dwarf rootstock for apple trees.
I also think that this may have something to do with the rootstock root system. Or even a seedling of dwarf rootstock will have a better life span than a cutting with a more superficial root system.
Also (crataegus monogyna) is very resistant to various conditions and soil types which makes this rootstock interesting for me.

But you're right, some varieties will be more compatible than others.

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