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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« on: January 30, 2018, 10:59:33 AM »
Geffner is growing well for me, no flowers yet. Others tell me it does well in South FL and tastes very good. Those growing in other areas tend to have less praise for Geffner.

I'm going to graft cumbe to it this Spring to see how it does.

Thanks to both of you, Roblack, where did you get your Geffner?

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I'll 3rd the perennial peanut. Although the post Irma flood killed all of mine, and the ain't cheap to replace.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« on: January 30, 2018, 09:56:51 AM »
I'd add Lisa, Dream, and PPC to the list too.
As people in Florida have had success with these so far.

Thank you Sayid. Do you by chance still have that white sapote?  I'm actively looking for one. Seedling I assume?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First jaboticaba flower buds??????
« on: January 30, 2018, 09:50:36 AM »
COULD THEY BE SO SLOW!??



one month later and the supposed flower buds are just like that!

Sooo?  Buds or no buds?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« on: January 29, 2018, 10:44:32 PM »
Well I depend heavily on UF for advice with plants.  Here is what they have to say:

There are numerous atemoya varieties; however, few have been critically evaluated for an extended period of time. The most satisfactory variety under Florida conditions has been 'Gefner', which does not require hand pollination and produces fruit of good quality. Fruit production of 'Page' is good but fruit tends to split on the tree at maturity. 'African Pride' ('Kaller') and 'Bradley' usually produce few fruit without hand pollination. 'African Pride' fruit may develop internal disorders upon ripening. Other varieties such as 'Bernitski', 'Caves', 'Chirimoriñon A', 'Chirimoriñon B' and 'Chirimoriñon C', 'Hette', 'Island Gem', 'Lindstrom', 'Kabri', 'Malali', 'Malamud', 'Mammoth' ('Pink Mammoth'), 'Priestly', and 'Stermer' have not proven viable for commercial production. The selection of superior varieties in the future is highly possible due to the numerous seedlings that are under evaluation in public and private collections.

So, it looks like a Gefner is what I'll be looking for, unless I hear differently on here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« on: January 29, 2018, 10:39:03 PM »
Well, Y'all are NOT telling me what I want to hear LOL. 

If anyone has an Atemoya suggestion then, I would appreciate it.  I do have a custard apple that was given to me very stressed, I hope it survives.

Thanks for the input, it is appreciated.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« on: January 29, 2018, 06:11:00 PM »
 I am in zone 10 B. I have read the cherimoyas don't grow well in this area. Is there one that will grow well in this area and produce good fruit? Thank you

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Yeh, some jackfruit have those types of leaves. Learned that from here pretty recently.

Custard apples drop there leaves once a year for me.

Thank you, good to know as we're in the same zone.  Did yours drop your leaves recently?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 0-15
« on: January 26, 2018, 08:13:34 PM »
I’m growing it, assuming this is in reference to Zill O-15.

It is a Jakarta seedling, doesn’t have a name. Medium-sized round shaped fruit. Very delicious fruit with a lot of resin and spice. Original tree is quite productive too. The problem with it is that it has an odd tendency for the fruit seemingly all ripen at once. Talking like a 2 week season max.

Sounds like a good excuse to get a good dehydrator. 

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Thank you, so perhaps they were labeled correctly.

I was comparing it to a Jackfruit that I just bought that has single, fat, spear shaped leaves.  This photo is of a tree that I just bought at Spykes over on your side of the state.  It better be a jackfruit, that is what it was labeled.  The leaves are completely different.  The Spykes tree is just labeled "Jackfruit".  No species.

So, does A, Retuculata go dormant during cold snaps, including leaf drop??

Also, I'm unable to find a jackfruit with tulip shaped leaves like that?  They all seem oblong shaped. 



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Trip to Borneo was a success
« on: January 26, 2018, 08:01:30 PM »
I spent 6 weeks traveling around with my gf who is also into fruits.

You might want to reword that LOL.....

Sorry, it is Friday night. 

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Techmangam is the same stuff, but it comes in 55 pound bags and is probably a lot cheaper than amazon. I laid down an entire 55 pounds on about 1/4 acre of soil. My theory was that I could saturate the soil with it and create a reservoir that would release slowly with the help of sulfur.

Another idea is to band the MnSO4, with the theory that you can create super saturated "cells" of Mn that will be available to the plant and less likely to get bound by Ca ions.

If the above "lazy" approaches don't work, you'll have to spray MnSO4 about once a month. Basically you have to time your spray with leaf flushes, as hardened leaves don't absorb it very well -- you'll either end up with cute green leaf freckles in the best case or no noticeable amelioration of symptoms in the worst case.

Your absolute K didn't look that bad. Obviously, you're low, but it was the low K saturation that caught my attention. Ca, Mg, and K compete for the same spots, and apparently, Ca is winning :-).

The 8-2-12 is fantastic. But, I use Hars super mix for my mangoes (no nitrogen). I think both have a good Mg / K balance (if memory serves).

Here's some good info on soil K: http://www.spectrumanalytic.com/support/library/ff/Potassium_basics.htm

I think minimum custom mix is in the 1 ton range, and slow release mixes will be pricey. Given the size of your orchard, you should be able to plow through 1 ton / 40 bags pretty quickly. But I wouldn't recommend creating your own mix. I'd get someone like Har to devise one for you.

So you are thinking I will need to supplement Mn with foliar or soil drenching? I have MnSO4 from amazon that I was adding to my chelated iron soil drenches, which seems to my untrained eye to be similar to tecmangan.   Maybe I should find a chelated Mn?

I bought a 20 pound bag on amazon but I do not see that anymore.  Here is the link to 3 pounds:
https://www.amazon.com/Manganese-Fertilizer-Greenway-Biotech-Inc/dp/B00G3YU1TC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1485985081&sr=8-1&keywords=manganese+sulfate

My K number is shocking.  Har walked my yard and he told me my K was lacking.  I have been using 8-2-12-4 since.  I need something with low Mg and high K.  Seems even 1:1 ratio is not good for some plants.  Any companies do custom fertilizer mixes in small batches(500 - 750 pounds) at a reasonable price?

I used Spectrum Analytics.  They received the samples Monday and I had the results on Tuesday afternoon.

Curious, why no nitrogen?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Need some help identifying these trees please
« on: January 26, 2018, 07:51:09 PM »
I had a client that works for the Naples Botanical Garden, he had just cleaned out an area and had a pickup load of trees and gave me a couple.  They were labeled, but at least one of the trees appears mislabeled.  Both trees were very stressed, exposed roots in the pot, clearly hadn't been watered or fed.  One appears to be recovering, one doesn't look so good.  We have had a cold snap of late (by SW FL standards) so I'm hoping it just went dormant.  I repotted both, giving them water and light feedings.  Hope to rehab both and plant this spring once the rains start. 

I was told they were both jackfruit, obviously wrong.  One is labeled Artocarpus heterophyllus (Jackfruit), but has tulip shaped leaves, clearly isn't a jackfruit.  This tree appears to be on the mend.

Second tree is seriously stressed and it doesn't look so good, but again, I hope it's just going dormant due to the cold weather.  I just remembered, it had a fire ant nest in the pot, perhaps they damaged the roots?  I've heard they can do that.  Anyway, it is labeled as Annona Reticulata, and has leaves that resemble Jackfruit.

I don't think the labels got switched as one was secured with pretty heavy wire. 

If the one tree has fire ant damaged roots, what to do?  Cut back the tree to give the roots some relief?

Thanks in advance!







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best avocado variety for South Florida
« on: January 25, 2018, 04:54:44 PM »
Any tree can stay manageable if you prune it.

As far as varieties, I'd look first at when you want to harvest. Look at harvest time of your current tree, then look at what staggers well  to prolong your harvest.  This will narrow it down quite a bit, then work off of that list.

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it's easier and shorter to list what they won't touch.

I got plenty of gophers at my place. That's why I have most of the plants in pots.  I know 100% they won't touch:
cherimoya

I'm experimenting with cassava this year into the ground and see if that will poison them.

If they won't touch cherimoya then perhaps they won't similar plants?  Barbados cherry?  Just spitballing here.  I'd own a good .22 with a scope for sure.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Which white sapote?
« on: January 15, 2018, 08:18:44 PM »
Thank you, I just modified my question.  Not sure why I said the soil stays wet, I just meant, as you already know, that it rains every day in the summer.  The area is well drained, the only time I've ever had standing water was after Irma.  The water table does get up to about 5-6' from the surface towards the end of the rainy season. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Which white sapote?
« on: January 14, 2018, 01:00:14 PM »
Keep reading how much everyone love the white sapote, so I think I'll try one. Which one should I get?  Sandy soil can give it mostly sun, soil is poor, basically beach sand, slightly alkaline. Well drained, zone 10b.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cleanup after the freeze in Orlando area
« on: January 09, 2018, 09:48:28 PM »
Your bananas will recover, may even fruit this summer.  Little fertilizer, potassium and water, it'll bounce right back.  Why not look at some of the cold tolerant bananas?  There are a few. 

Other stuff?  Your citrus will probably be OK.  Seedlings though?  Why bother? 

My opinion and it is only mine, is that water helps relieve stress.

Mango and papaya, I'm only guessing, but I'd bet they'll be OK. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To eat or not to eat??
« on: January 08, 2018, 09:38:35 PM »
Must be tons of fun to harvest and peel.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mona Lisa and Sweet heart Banana's?
« on: January 08, 2018, 09:36:54 PM »
Mona Lisa is excellent, can't speak to sweetheart. I prefer Mona to any commercial banana

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mona Lisa and Sweet heart Banana's?
« on: January 07, 2018, 10:20:50 PM »
I have the first and last, not sure what you want to know.  Growing a banana seems to be the same no matter the type - at least to me.

1. build some adjustable braces, shaped like a Y.  Prop up the banana stalks as they grow, or you WILL lose banana plants during wind, etc.
2. They seem to like to feed heavy, at least in my experience.  Extra potassium seems to make them happy also. 

I didn't pay attention to where you're located, if they get frost damage, don't worry, they'll recover quickly.

Timing of the harvest is the hardest thing to master.  They are best ripened off the plant, but pick too early, they won't ripen.  I leave the bunches on until a few of them just start to transition from green to yellow.  This is not perfect, but I've found it the easiest way.  Once mastered, you can harvest a hand or two at a time, slightly extending the harvest.  Or pick the whole bunch at once, my largest stalks have been in the 65lb range, that is a LOT of bananas.

Oh - you probably know this, but once a plant produces, it's done.  Cut it down and use it for mulch to keep the weeds down.

Last, the stalk (can't recall the proper name, it's late and I'm tired) will continue to produce flowers that do not develop into bananas, you will learn to know when.  For this:

1.  The flowers are edible and popular in some areas in salads, read up on how to prepare them. 
2.   If you don't want the flowers, then cut the stalk off just above the flowering part, this allows that energy to be diverted to the bananas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: anti desiccant
« on: January 06, 2018, 02:38:46 PM »
I thought it was supposed to be humid in FL. Is winter a dry season?

Not typically in S FL. In north it can be. This year is dryer than normal due to the massive cold fronts up north.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is your favorite tropical cherry?
« on: January 06, 2018, 02:36:47 PM »
Be careful where you purchase your Barbados cherry.  Mine fruited first time this year and were so sour, birds didn't eat them.
For a true cherry, there are some improved versions of capulun cherry that supposedly taste good if you can find them.
As for my favorite, I cannot recommend enough Jamaican cherry.  Strong grower, a biut thirsty, fruit are beyond delicious!

Mine improved a lot with age. I love my Barbados. It never complains and is low maintenance. All it does is grow like crazy and produce prolific amounts of cherries. I have dozens of fruit trees but my barbados is on of my favorites. It gets me very close to my goal of fresh fruit 365 days a year.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What’s bloomin?
« on: December 31, 2017, 08:58:34 PM »
Pigeon pea, some of my citrus is in bloom, my peaches that I just bought to replace my Irma killed trees

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: If You Live In California
« on: December 27, 2017, 08:54:19 PM »
I'm fortunate enough to have a mature Navel Orange tree that produces excellent fruit.  I may stop by Trader Joes though and try a few.

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