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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2017, 04:24:18 PM »
Nice experiment Bob, it'll be interesting to watch as it continues.

I'll update this in a couple of months to see how the planted seedlings are coming along.  I'd like to see if the different solutions of GA exhibit excessive cell elongation that would be detrimental to the overall growth and health of the plants.
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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2017, 04:33:14 AM »
You're right Bob,
i hate the ETIOLATING effect of GA on seedlings.....
it think it's crucial to find the optimal concentration to ensure a prompt germination but without "side effects"...
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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #27 on: February 16, 2018, 05:22:21 PM »
A quick update,  all my seeds died....

There are a numbers of reasons why it might have happened but none of the had to do with Raul. His seeds arrived in beautiful condition as always! GA3, lack of light or dirty substrate are among the possibilities. I'm trying it again, this time soaking in clean water for 24hrs. Hopefully it goes better this time.



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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #28 on: February 16, 2018, 09:18:47 PM »
Ilama seeds should be stored dry for several months, to finish maturing during dormancy, just as they would, fallen near a tree, during the long dry season in Guatemala.  If planted and watered too soon, they simply rot.
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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #29 on: February 16, 2018, 09:39:43 PM »
You must be right Har.
I had some seeds planted in well watered and cared pots. They all got rotten.
Some seeds were in a "forgotten" pot without label left in the sun for several weeks.
Last week after a good rain they all sprouted, 3 out of 3.....amazing!
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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #30 on: February 16, 2018, 10:08:52 PM »
As Har said, that is what they do in nature, fruits falling down in September, then the seeds stay in ground through the warm winter,to sprout with the first rains in June of next year, Dr. Gustavo Valladares author of the book "ilamas en tierra caliente del balsas" said they opened some ilama seeds right away and to his surprise most didn't have embrios, he thinks it continues developing after fruit falls and that is the reason why they take so long to germinate...
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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #31 on: February 17, 2018, 02:36:33 AM »
Raul your reply is illuminating me, thanks!  :)
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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #32 on: February 17, 2018, 03:44:46 AM »
That's good to hear. My dad just planted the seeds about 10 days ago.

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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #33 on: February 17, 2018, 03:23:44 PM »
The seeds i planted from rosada last january 23.

I have put 50/50 dirt & potting mix as well as powder & granulated mycorrhizae & inside the gh.
Its almost a month & no signs of gernination.



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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2018, 10:44:38 AM »
As Har said, that is what they do in nature, fruits falling down in September, then the seeds stay in ground through the warm winter,to sprout with the first rains in June of next year, Dr. Gustavo Valladares author of the book "ilamas en tierra caliente del balsas" said they opened some ilama seeds right away and to his surprise most didn't have embrios, he thinks it continues developing after fruit falls and that is the reason why they take so long to germinate...

I hold the seeds for about eight months and in some cases longer before germinating. I have many seedlings of Raul's ilama growing. Out of 20, 19 germinated.
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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #35 on: July 30, 2018, 08:51:59 PM »
I started my Ilama seeds from Raul late because the US post office lost the package for three weeks. luckily they found it and I soaked some the seeds in 300 ppm GA and others in 500 ppm GA for 24 hours.  I also soaked a few seeds in warm water for 48 hours before planting.  I used the paper towel method of germination and the seeds were placed in plastic bags on seed germination heating mats.  The seeds soaked in 500 ppm GA had faster germination and quicker lateral branching than the 300 ppm GA soaked seeds, but after an additional day on the germination mats, the 300 ppm GA seeds started catching up. Two of the water soaked seed also germinated after 10 days, but have slower growth. So far 70% of the seeds have germinated.

500 ppm GA soaked seeds


300 ppm GA soaked seeds


water soaked seeds


Thanks for posting! LOVE seeing experiments taking place and being shared! I have not yet tried this species with PPM solutions.

How did you clean the seeds first/or did you? I was wondering how they would do with a 3% Bleach solution to clean them.

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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2018, 06:53:47 AM »
They fruit fast as well. Despite tales of slow bearing one ilama I received from Raul 3 years ago already fruited. Seeds I received from a much loved moderator here have been producing fruit for over 2 years and also opened their accounts at less than 4 years.

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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2018, 08:11:35 AM »
That's definitely a great news Mike  :)
You've both white and pink/red fleshed varieties?
what can you say about the taste?
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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2018, 08:17:52 AM »
I have pink and red and I have described the taste in more detail in another thread. They are good with splitting and flesh yield being moderate only their drawbacks.

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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #39 on: August 05, 2018, 08:05:07 PM »
I've seedilings 6 months growing from Raul's seeds, white fleshed variety i'm plannig to move them to open soil next january.
Thanks Mike
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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #40 on: January 07, 2020, 01:03:24 PM »
Reviving an old thread...

Back in September 2015 a received some Illama seeds from Raul. I somehow misplaced them, but a few weeks ago, while working on a sticky drawer i discovered the the seeds had slipped behind said drawer and after four years the plastic bag had become stuck in the drawer slide.

Not expecting anything, I soaked the seeds in some water overnight then put them in some pots in a mini-greenhouse. about two weeks later, and much to my surprise, i noticed the the seeds had germinated. Every one of them!

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Re: Rauls's illama (annona diversifolia) seeds
« Reply #41 on: January 07, 2020, 06:20:12 PM »
Wow, what a way to start the new year. Hopefully they will produce excellent fruit for you. Please keep us updated on how they progress.

Simon