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There is a commercial jackfruit grower here with the trees at 8 x 15 spacing. He claimed to get 100lbs per tree.  My jackfruit trees are mostly planted at 15 x 15. My trees are only 5 years in the ground but I don't think this will be an issue with a once a year pruning.

You mentioned doing serious pruning. Pruning is apparently very effective with jacks but not sure about the others. With consistent pruning Oscar could those spacing be reduced?

My grafted jacks are planted high density and spaced 15-16ft. I am hoping this is doable long term, time will tell.

I guess you also have the problem that stuff grows more quickly there and so would require higher spacing.
Pruning is effective on all. The only question is, will you really do it consistently? Moxt people lax off after the trees get big, and then they get out of control.

I will (canít speak for op). I use the same spacing for mangoes currently and only have a half acre to play with. Doable at my spacing you reckon?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Triple Sec mango
« on: April 13, 2018, 08:11:49 PM »
Aaron, did the label at least say "(AKA <something>)"? When I bought my Lemon Zest, it was labeled with Lemon Zest (AKA 27-1).

Atemoya, rollinia, custard apple, green sapote, mamey, abiu, white sapote, tamarind, kwai muk, rain forest plum, grumichama, mamey apple, persimmon, achachairu, madruno, lemon drop mangosteen, caimito

Local and year round may not be easy. Tropical Acres/Squam256 in WPB will be a source of off-season mangos. Truly Tropicals might be another source of fruit outside peak season. Lots of road side fruit sellers on Krome Ave in Homestead but I have no idea how much of what they sell is local or imported. I have seen jackfruit and some other fruits at Robert Is Here in Feb/March.    Maybe papayas can be found year round. Buy a chest freezer, buy when fruit are in-season, and freeze and dehydrate a supply for when things are off-season.  Maybe it is easier than I think to find local fruit year round but I am ok not having fruit in the off-season so I don't bother searching it out.

I have 40 jackfruit trees in the ground (with only 20 producing trees so far) and will be selling fruit. My jackfruit crop is from June to October. My trees have not yet produce off-season fruit.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Triple Sec mango
« on: April 13, 2018, 01:43:08 PM »
I agree 100%. Names should not be changed after release.

Itís Seacrest. They decided to change the name.

The names are getting worse and worse. Seacrest was an excellent name.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Triple Sec mango
« on: April 12, 2018, 08:57:13 AM »
It is a top 10 mango for me.  Others do not agree. Try for yourself.

The top tropical one looks right. The other looks like it might be sia tong or some similar variety.

I remember seadation offering me a tree but I had 30 seedlings that had sprouted. I got my seeds in 2013. If your tree came from the same batch, 2013 is right.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Atemoya pollination experts please...
« on: April 05, 2018, 10:33:16 AM »
1) My geffner does not self pollinate. Yes, the 30% are female and the fully open ones are male.

2) I would not let a tree that has only been in the ground a few months fruit. You spent a lot of money on the tree so why chance it. It should not be impossible for you to find someone selling geffner within driving distance.

Sign me up!

Are you familiar with Sabor? If so, how does this compare?  Sabor was my favorite from a box of Pierce, Campas, Honeyhart, and Fino de Jete because of the acidity.

This marang tree as been negelected and unprotected for the last 4 years. Every once in a while, I pick it up after it has fallen on its side.  It got down to 37F here this winter.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pruning rollinia problem
« on: March 29, 2018, 10:34:21 PM »
I had to cut my big rollinia tree down by 60% to stand it up straight after Irma.  It took it ok.

These trees are touchy. Maybe this winter was a bit too cold in your area for rollinia.  Some people believe some strains can handle a little more cold but others are tropical. It may be a watering issue.  I have a vigorous tree that always has a section dying back only to come back strong and another tree that is more level headed but stays dwarfish. I had a tree at my rental property die this winter, after at least 7 years in the ground.

If this is one of the amber seeding that were distributed by Patrick or Sheehan, I would recommend that you put it in the ground.  These trees were distributed for free in the hopes of bringing a great jackfruit to the US. So far the results have been very good. My tree, unfortunately, is sickly.

I have jackfruit trees that have been putting out males for the last three years without fruiting.

Gnappi, taking 4 to 5 years to fruit is not a bad thing for a jackfruit tree. Small trees produce inferior fruit, fruiting puts a lot of strain on the tree, and BKL is a heavy producer.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to get best deal on 0-0-50
« on: March 23, 2018, 10:55:31 PM »
Yes, buy the  0-3-16 plus micros from Har or Truly tropicals.

If you are dead set on 0-0-50, Helena chemicals,$26.50 a 50 lbs bag is what I paid. They sell it in a few different forms. Ask for the mini, which is granular.

Not sure when this will happen again but Fairchild hosts them every once in a while.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Red Morning Jackfruit tasted
« on: March 22, 2018, 10:01:28 PM »
Cristella is not red fleshed

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help slow release fertilizer.
« on: March 20, 2018, 11:15:03 PM »
.90% polymer coated is 15% of the nitrogen. The Helena Chemicals and Howard Fertilizer 8-2-12 formulations are 7.2% polymer coated or 90% of the nitrogen for a slow and long feed.

I don't see the label, but the vigoro "slow release" stuff is likely going to be mostly water soluble with a small % of water insoluble forms of nitrogen -- and this oftentimes means milorganite (recycled biped feces) or some other cheap form of organic nitrogen (not sulfur / polymer coated).

Sulfur / polymer coated slow release (where a significant % of all nutrients are slow release) is generally quite expensive at the big box stores -- if you can even find it there. You don't really want to buy your fertilizer at a big box store unless you don't have any other options (ie, you don't have a grower's supply nearby).

Update -- I found the label. It's a laughable 0.90% nitogen. At least it's polymer coated. But that basically means that they tossed in 50 cents worth of slow release nitrogen granules to be able to woo / dupe consumers with the "slow release" label :-).

Pine Island is still labeling this as "Small". I bought one thinking it was something new.  Luckily, I didn't buy papi at the jackfruit festival because of the stupid name so at least this is not a duplicate. Really, I am not sure which name is dumber.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to get best deal on 0-0-50
« on: March 20, 2018, 12:37:05 PM »
Yes, Helena does have a granular. I think I paid $27 a 50lbs bag.  It is to supplement my 4 doses of 8-2-12. I plant on using it in between my scheduled application of the polymer coated stuff. I will combine it with manganese sulfate and mono-ammonium phosphate because these are the elements my soil test and tree deficiency symptoms show are low.  I doubt these will be around after 4 inches of rain, which could be only a couple of days.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to get best deal on 0-0-50
« on: March 19, 2018, 10:46:14 PM »
0-0-50 is for fertigation and mostly sold as powder. It is totally water soluble and very little will not be retained in your soil. Buy 0-3-16 from Har or Truly Tropicals. That has slow release potassium and micros too.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are these abiu flowers?
« on: March 18, 2018, 08:18:45 PM »

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 17, 2018, 06:28:06 AM »
I think the ants are farming those smaller black bugs, aphids. Hose them off.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: March 14, 2018, 05:11:32 PM »
I would say those are both caimito. Black sapote leaves are waxy and the bottoms are a lighter shade of green than the dark green tops. The leaves are generally flat and caimito's have ribbing.  Caimito leaf bottoms have distinctly different coloring from the tops. The new growth on the larger specimen also looks like caimito. I am not the best at recognizing foliage though.

Here is a female right after emerging. I pulled off the encapsulating leaves. Texture doesn't really change.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cutting panicle on young mango trees
« on: March 05, 2018, 07:37:54 PM »
Here is a picture I took on 4/14/17. Panicle sprouting secondary panicles after the original bloom did not set fruit. This was on my peach cobbler.

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