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That is great for my potted plants but that is not economical or balanced properly for my yard. I have over an acre of trees planted and require over 30 bags of fert for a single year, most available at $20 - $25 a bag. Being that my phosphates are low, I think I am going to do one or two rounds of 10-10-10. Helena's 8-2-12 slow release during the rainy season. Howards 8-2-12 before the rainy season. 20 bags of Tiger/Rocket 90 sulfur. Maybe 10 bags of 0-0-50 granular, 50 pounds mangenese sulfphate, 20 pounds 10% boron granular.  That is the plan anyway. What actually happens will probably be less.

A.M. Leonard sells quite a few different NPK slow release prills.   Back Order went in, got a 50# bag of Oscomocote for $85 shipped come March!

Here is 2019's results. Not much improvement. I was pretty busy with work so I was not able to push things according to plan.

Here is the Yearly comparison

I believe it was North Bay Village, which is a little north of Miami.

They have been fruited unprotected in south Florida near the ocean by Bill Whitman.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Gary Zill explaining his mango project...
« on: September 14, 2018, 04:43:46 PM »
I have 180 trees planted on roughly 1 acre. My spacing is 15ft.  1 acre = 40,000 sqft, 5 acres = 200,000 sqft, 1000 trees on 200,000 sqft = 200 sqft per tree. If entire 5 acres was used and the trees are planted in a square pattern, they could be planted 14ft apart.


:D Yep. That's why I was so excited when these new cultivars first started being released. I got coco cream and lemon zest literally the day they were released.

Gary was able to eliminate 90% of the seedlings before planting them out based on leaf smell. But he did plant out 1,000 seedlings and wait for them to fruit -- which is quite an amazing feat. I don't think anyone else in the U.S. has ever had such a huge mango improvement project. And, how did he manage to cram 1,000 trees into 5 acres? I think that translates to about 8' spacing between trees.

10,000 seedlings!  And the number of years devoted to this.  I'm absolutely amazed by the undertaking.

6ft actually!

Text says "Forest of Annona glabra", not reticulata. Pond apple forest.

Coffin??? Grave??? I think if you want people to understand, you need to include pics.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Natural Mystic Dragon Fruit
« on: August 05, 2018, 03:04:58 PM »
Yes, they are self pollinating and can be very good.

Sleepdoc was kind enough to share the tasting of the first forum documented fruit grown to maturity on mainland U.S. with me today.  Thank you Sleepdoc!

The fruit had fallen from the tree on Tuesday. The decision was made to allow the fruit to continue to ripen until Saturday before tasting. However, today, the fruit was very soft and looked like it was going down hill fast.  The fruit was very small.  Sleepdoc scored the skin of the fruit, which was very thin, and pulled the two halves apart. Unfortunately, the seed was nearly full sized and the fruit barely had any flesh. There was less than half a teaspoon to share between the myself, Sleepdoc, and his son.  The flavor was suprisingly sweet and only had the smallest hint of acidity and I thought it was very pleasent. It was one of the sweetest garcinias I have ever tasted. The skin had a thin layer of flesh, which I scraped with my teeth. It had a little more acidity and tasted similar to a sweet achachairu.

I just ate my last Harvest Moon that I grew. I like this mango. It is large but ripens evenly. It stays clean and sets a good amount of fruit in my fungus prone area. I would rate the flavor as very good, 4 out of 5.  I would recommend this to someone that wants a care-free mango tree. It was not precocious, it took 4 years to bear but, to be fair, the tree may have been set back by being grazed by a falling washintonia palm.  Quite a few people that I have shared fruit with have commented that the fruit are surprisingly good.  I have not eaten a Kent in many years so I cannot offer a comparison. I also ate a honey kiss this morning and I rate harvest moon's flavor above honey kiss.

Harvest Moon does not have any resin.  It is an extremely clean, almost milder basic mango flavor.  Looks great but for taste, a pass.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Best Mango - On any given Sunday
« on: July 02, 2018, 10:27:45 AM »
Most of the varieties came from Sleepdoc's yard or my yard. The others were grown by CookieMonster, Walter Zill, and Zill HPP.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Best Mango - On any given Sunday
« on: July 02, 2018, 09:54:40 AM »
Yes, we tried a phoenix. I had picked a phoenix from my tree last Monday to allow it to ripen for Sunday but it was picked too early. It was soft but sour, just like a dot that is picked too early. I have 3 more fruit and I will let them get soft on the tree before picking.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: The Best Mango - On any given Sunday
« on: July 01, 2018, 06:09:35 PM »
Friends and mangos, doesn't get much better than that.

Top 3: E4, dot, J12/super julie.

Angie, pina colada, valcarrie, pickering, cushman, harvest moon, florigon, duncan, and sunrise are some of the others we also tasted.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seeking info on M-4 mango
« on: June 27, 2018, 07:07:43 AM »
This is incorrect. It is on the latest zhpp availability. My M4 is growing similarly to the other varieties I planted at the same time. I have one mango on the tree, yellow but rock hard.

I recall hearing that M-4 is no longer propagated by Zills HPP.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Artocarpus ?
« on: May 22, 2018, 01:56:52 PM »
Maybe artocarpus hirsutus, wild jakfruit.

Did you get fruit when it flowered in October? Are you seeing fruit on the tree now?

Time of day is pretty important when hand pollinating. The window is only a few hours. I do atemoya around 7pm.

I have a dream in the ground and a couple in pots. I just recently planted the tree in the ground and I do not want it to set fruit. I have not hand pollinated it. It has had plenty of flowers but no fruit set. The trees in pots have had lots of flowers.  The fruits on the trees are the ones I hand pollinated.

I have no doubt that under the right conditions, dream is self pollinating. Unfortunately, the conditions at my location require hand pollination to get fruit.

So my dream has a full bloom for the first time..

Should I hand polinante or not? Tried a couple but they didnt take.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Maha Chanok fruit is splitting
« on: May 08, 2018, 07:45:38 AM »
No, MCs do not generally split here in Florida but your conditions are not really comparable. NDM #4 is one that seems to split early and often. Is this the Top Tropicals or the Plantogram?

ok, so the Maha Chanok in a pot in the greenhouse wth fruit is splitting.  I water it every single day.  What's the deal? I thought if you give it regular water, it should be ok. But no, that's not the case.  splitting is a trait with mama chinook or i'm not getting the real MH ?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Supposed fruit tree to identify
« on: May 07, 2018, 05:05:47 PM »
Maybe something in Syzygium. Reminds me of jambolan. Pics of the fruits might help.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Badly split Jackfruit tree trunk.
« on: April 29, 2018, 07:05:07 AM »
Your issue could be sunburn. The splits are a nice home for fungus, which may be aggravating the problem. Mix up some copper spray and spray directly into the split.

I have four or five jackfruit trees in my yard that have this issue. These trees are not healthy. They suffer from limb dieback.  Based on soil analysis, my yard is deficient in phosphorus, potassium, manganese, copper, and boron. The most likely cause would be boron deficiency. I would not treat your tree for boron unless you do a soil analysis first to verify this is a factor.

Ian is a great person and the farm is incredible. The people working there are the best. This is really sad that they have not been able to get any assistance. I wish I could give more.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: TransAtlantic Bare-root Mango trip
« on: April 26, 2018, 08:11:38 PM »
If you can take live plant materials, why not take budwood and graft on to trees sourced at your destination?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pics from the garden
« on: April 25, 2018, 08:12:56 AM »
Nice! I would wait until it is fully yellow. I have tried a couple with similar coloring and they tasted green. Winter fruit from my trees are generally not as good as summer fruit and can be bland.

That explanation on the website seems to defy what I was taught when I was a youngster, something about diffusion and equalibrium. It could be true when using a powder that fully saturates the water volume of the tank and continues to dissolve over time.

My point is that on day 1 the strength of fertilizer in the tank is 100% but on day 20 it would be down to 33%. From what little I have read on fertigation, the rate and frequency is not as important as the overall quantity (lbs of N-P-K, etc).  However, I feel injecting an undiluted nutrient solution is easier to understand, control, and manage.

Here is a link to a website that sells the venturi injectors I was looking at purchasing. The components can be purchased on amazon for less $$$.

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