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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
« on: March 10, 2019, 07:17:25 PM »
i have fruited Tucum, and i believe there is no way possible the fat content is in the pulp.

it must be in the seed embryo, the proper way to enjoy them is to let them get full sized and green, then you can split them open and eat the inside of the seed, which is similar in texture/taste to coconut.

I guess there's some shit you just can't find in a book...it's up to some asshole like me to figure it out, and then post it here.

Maybe inside the seed is the higher fat content. A study says the pulp has a similar fat, protein and carb content to human milk putting it at 3-5% fat.

i tasted the pulp, it was all water and carbs, no oil

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: A Fascination with Fatty Fruits
« on: March 10, 2019, 12:20:36 PM »
i have fruited Tucum, and i believe there is no way possible the fat content is in the pulp.

it must be in the seed embryo, the proper way to enjoy them is to let them get full sized and green, then you can split them open and eat the inside of the seed, which is similar in texture/taste to coconut.

I guess there's some shit you just can't find in a book...it's up to some asshole like me to figure it out, and then post it here.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia sp. "Anomaly" new Jabuticaba variety
« on: February 23, 2019, 06:10:36 PM »
Adam, your selection is awesome! The blooms are completely wrapping the trunk. I think one of the best attributes of your selection is that itís precocity and constant flowering help to keep the size of the tree in check. This would also make a great variety for Bonsai work.

Simon

thank u Simon,

I agree, it's main attraction is constant flowering, and dwarf size (even if the tree was nonfruiting i think it would be grown by lots of people because the flowering is perpetual, and it looks crazy)....as grafted tree it grows much faster...still, it grows slow compared to most fruit trees, only putting on about 1.5-2ft in a good growing season...

the tree has been incredibly productive for such a small specimen, but at times it gets frustrating, because it will bloom like crazy, and have minimal fruit set, and then out of nowhere it just decides to start setting tons of fruit again...I think because I move the tree around all the time during winter, it gets separated from it's normal pollinators, and they have to rediscover it every time i move it to a new location...

the fruit so far taste much like the red, but to be honest, i never had the patience to let them get fully ripe..I always ate them a tad early because they kept getting stolen by animals, and i wanted the seeds so bad.

I guess another nice feature is the fact that they can be eaten early, like the red, and they still taste very good...but there is nothing like a fruit that has been left on the tree for a few weeks, starting to shrivel a bit, and looking dull...the sweetest thing u ever tasted...like grape soda (Kyle Townsend coined that comparison, which i agree with totally)...i never got a chance to let anomaly get ripe like that....and I'm hoping to have the chance this season.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia trunciflora first flowering
« on: February 23, 2019, 01:31:15 PM »
i just realized we are getting close to the 7r mark since grafting, so some should definitely start to put out blooms.

I'm still waiting on mine though.


(but i did see my friend's tree that I grafted about 6y ago, start to finally flower...a small, but nice trunciflora about 4ft tall with 3inch caliper, about to bust out with flowers all over...not something u see every day)

Adam, here is a picture mine from probably from the same batch. Your nice graft can still clearly be seen. It's the same height but with only a 1.5 " caliper. I'm encouraged that I might get flowers years sooner than I thought.


Great work Josh! Let us know how they taste.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Multi-grafted Jaboticabas
« on: February 23, 2019, 01:29:47 PM »
PCG,

nice trees!!

definitely blooms coming on that grimal scion you posted pics of...

looks like Grimal is also winning the race on your cocktail tree, but seems like not by much, the growth rate is pretty evenly matched...the tree looks well balanced.

thanks for sharing pics, they look super happy.

good investment that will pay dividends  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia sp. "Anomaly" new Jabuticaba variety
« on: February 23, 2019, 01:41:11 AM »
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congrats Apresser,

mine flowering about same size but like 3 x the age....it was restricted in a pot for a long time...and exposed to cold weather...

i see your first flower is male, hopefully lots of androgynous flowers the next round.

my tree made one androgynous flower, but failed to set fruit...

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one of the trees fruited quite well last year, despite flooding, and the fruit was interesting, very astringent, but i kind of like the, you probably use them for a wine, or cooking..but very easy to grow, and i used it as a rootstock successfully for latifolia

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plinia trunciflora first flowering
« on: February 08, 2019, 02:16:29 AM »
what are you using as fert??  unicorn urine?  :P

why mine still no flower after like 6y?   :'(

(but i did see my friend's tree that I grafted about 6y ago, start to finally flower...a small, but nice trunciflora about 4ft tall with 3inch caliper, about to bust out with flowers all over...not something u see every day)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Flying Fox Fruits Nursery
« on: January 14, 2019, 08:11:19 PM »
Grimal Jaboticaba Seedlings for sale now!

one of the best PLINIAS ever!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Plinia-sp-Grimal-Jaboticaba-Seedling-makes-LARGE-Delicious-FRUITS/192789947990?hash=item2ce32d2656:g:7K0AAOSwHOZcO64x:rk:1:pf:0

Hi Adam, you have a very good price $ 10.98 (+ shipping $ 6.98) as per US terms.

Regards

yes thank you, i have a surplus of this wonderful rare fruit tree now, i have lots of seeds and good germination.

I will be sold out soon, and the price will go up!

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I'd personally stay away, because of saturated market, and laurel wilt...

I remember one year in South FL, the cost to pick avocado was more than the what you could get from selling it....so all the avocado went to waste, and it was all over the ground everywhere, thousands of pounds of perfect fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hi everyone! Been a while!
« on: December 14, 2018, 05:28:05 PM »
Howdy stranger!

did u ever get them abius fruiting at your place???

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Cambuca
« on: November 24, 2018, 10:03:15 PM »
That has not been updated yet. theplantlist.org is not even Kew's primary taxonomy resource.

Try http://plantsoftheworldonline.org/?page.size=120&q=plinia much slicker and up-to-date.



Whatever it is, I've been selling it as Plinia trunciflora, and it has dangly fruits...the variety i got takes long time to fruit...but makes big fruit with thin skin, and several small seeds.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Multigraft Annona harvest
« on: November 24, 2018, 06:25:33 PM »


CONGRATS!  NICE ASSORTMENT!!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Cambuca
« on: November 24, 2018, 06:20:55 PM »

Plinia peruviana is now the accepted name for Jabuticaba de Cabinho, so P. trunciflora is a synonym.



nope


well here reads something to the contrary.

http://theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-161390

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Camu Camu forest (Myrciaria dubia)
« on: November 16, 2018, 12:26:34 PM »
Just as medical doctors and lawyers and architects and industrial designers and so on aren't required to freely dispense the knowledge that has been costly for them to acquire, so it is with horticulturists as well.  Just because you may be in one of those very profitable professions and regard "messing around with plants" as merely a fun hobby to share about and have competitions about, does not therefor make inappropriate someone else's reticence to give out their horticultural information upon which they are hoping to make a better living.

The adverse effects of losing exclusivity too soon to one's hard-earned techniques can be severe and swift.  In economics, the band-wagon effect is very destructive.
As is industrial espionage.  I witnessed a nursery, from one year to the next, go from selling about 10 thousands of grafted trees of one species, per year, to one or two hundred--- because a more conveniently located nursery paid an employee to teach them the technique.

Well put. I also know many have tried and failed with growing camu camu for many years. Most have given up. Some give up after a couple of tries, some after a couple of years. If I can find a way to profit and help with this on a large scale I will do everything I can. With that said, I will not hand over my "Playbook" after many years of trials, countless hours of research, and continuous product development.

As of right now, we are still about a year or so away from actual product deployment. Just as stated above, I will not make the same mistake an entire country made in the development of this fascinating fruit by selling to the market before I can determine a proper plan of action.

I will keep this post updated as much as possible in regards to information on progress and information that has already been posted in other areas with clarification.

but i think this is the reason we don't know how the pyramids were built.  :P ;D

btw, my camu camus are finally setting fruits in a 15 gal pot about 7y old, 8ft tall...the hardest part of keeping them alive is keeping pH low.






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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jade Pineapple
« on: November 16, 2018, 12:14:52 PM »
wow, biggest WJ i seen right there!

good growing Simon!

I decided to harvest another one of my White Jades today so I can bring it over to Brads for sampling. This particular fruit was growing for approximately 7 months so the 6 month rule does not always apply. I harvested a fruit at 6 months and it wasnít fully sweetened. For this fruit, I waited until The underside away from the sun, had yellow eyes all the way up and down the fruit.

After harvesting, the underside of the fruit looked a lot more green than I originally noticed right before I harvested it but I was worried about critters getting to it before I did so I took a chance. Iím hoping that this fruit will have a Brix higher than the 16% I got from my last Fruit. Iíll update with a taste report after we cut it open later. The fruit, with the top on, weighed approximately 3lbs 10 Oz so the fruit itself probably weighs about 3 lbs. here are some pictures









Simon

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: PLEASE IDENTIFY THIS FRUIT TREE
« on: November 16, 2018, 12:10:34 PM »
cordia myxa


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nice fruit, and pics!

thanks for sharing hoss!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Camu Camu forest (Myrciaria dubia)
« on: November 15, 2018, 12:27:17 PM »
Nice setup, good to see some nice experimental rare fruit grove growers.

I hope the berries ripen before they freeze. I'm not worried about the trees freezing at this point though.

how u heating them?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Camu Camu forest (Myrciaria dubia)
« on: November 12, 2018, 12:57:08 PM »

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I wonder if anyone can verify if they had distributed budwood of Arka to South America (Peru) soon after it had been released?

I suppose Dream could have been a seedling of Arka that stayed true, I've seen this happen with some of the variable atemoyas that are not true from seed, like Lisa (48-26)...so every now and then you get a seedling that is just like the parent, or not much different, from a tree that normally produces highly variable offspring.
 
Wayne said he planted the original Dream from seed, and he's not a liar.

Hey Adam
Scions can get mixed up and varieties renamed by mistake it happens all the time but as I remember Dream was advertised as dream cherimoya which is absolutely false. This is clearly an atemoya whatever name you want to call it.

it being a seedling of Arka that stayed somewhat true is a logical explanation, if indeed, Wayne didn't mix things up.

i think everyone pretty much agreed a long time ago that it's most likely an atemoya. 

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I wonder if anyone can verify if they had distributed budwood of Arka to South America (Peru) soon after it had been released?

I suppose Dream could have been a seedling of Arka that stayed true, I've seen this happen with some of the variable atemoyas that are not true from seed, like Lisa (48-26)...so every now and then you get a seedling that is just like the parent, or not much different, from a tree that normally produces highly variable offspring.
 
Wayne said he planted the original Dream from seed, and he's not a liar.

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