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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Best tasting Mangos of 2019
« on: April 21, 2019, 03:49:52 PM »
To continue the annual tradition, please post about your favorite tasting mango varieties for 2019. I see that Chris from Truly Tropical has already started posting videos from this years crop. Here is a link to last years thread.

Last year, one of my favorite tasting mango varieties was Rajapuri grown in India. I purchased these at the local Indian Supermarket and they were fantastic last year. The Mangos were huge and extremely flavorful with a sweet, rich taste throughout the flesh and concentrated Piney, Indian resin flavors closer to the skin of the fruit. What made Rajapuri so exceptional was that it had an indescribable sweet umami flavor that I can only compare to the flavor of Guava.

This year, I picked up a box of Rajapuri and was surprised to see that they had 9 fruit to a box. Last year, there were only 4-6 in an oversized box. This years fruit was significantly smaller. My Mangos were sitting in a warm garage for about a week and some of the fruit started giving off a sweet mango flavor and felt slightly soft so I cut one open.

The flesh color was more yellowish and from the looks alone, I could tell it was underripe. The fruit had Brix readings between 14-16% and were definitely not in their prime of ripeness. The flavor and sweetness were sort of their but definitely not at their best. The early season Indian Mangos(grown in India) tend to be picked early and watered  down so I was not expecting much from them.

This goes to show how drastically Mangos of the same variety can taste so different when you compare early season fruit to mid or late season fruit. Hereís a couple pictures


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: coc mango growth habit
« on: April 20, 2019, 11:32:50 AM »
COC/CAC is an excellent grower that is quite vigorous as mangomongo mentioned. It has been disease resistant and is a reliable bearer. Sweet Tart and COC/CAC are probably the top two varieties I recommend for SoCal mango growers. The fruit is delicious and fairly large, about a pound.

I gave scions to several friends and they report that their trees on LaVern Manilla rootstock are growing exceptionally well.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is the best variety of loquat?
« on: April 19, 2019, 05:47:24 PM »
This years Loquats have been very bland for most of SoCal because of the weekly rains.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is the best variety of loquat?
« on: April 19, 2019, 05:45:45 PM »
Nice fruit Behl!

For those of you having trouble with Big Jim, are you watering and fertilizing properly giving your tree a dry period before flowering? My Big Jim produced when it was a small tree and has produced well every year, ever since. Due to its heavy fruiting, it has not grown much. It has been in the ground about 6-7 years and is about 6-7 feet tall at its highest point and has a similar width.

Most Loquat grow vigorously here in SoCal, I have not noticed that Big Jim is any more vigorous.


Anyone have an U Molinae from the large fruiting variety? I love this fruit, it tastes like no other but the fruit are so small. It tastes a bit like cotton candy mixed with this other unreal tropical fruit flavor. Iíve seen a giant variety but it seems itís only available in Europe.


This is the one I was looking for


Here is a great article I found that discusses the use of Copper as a Fungicide/Biocide. It talks about the different Copper formulations and gives the pros and cons.

Please feel free to post comments, additional articles regarding use of fungicides or personal experiences using the various Copper products out there.

I am personally considering the purchase of Magnabon CS2005 but it is extremely expensive and I am looking for an alternative that might have similar systemic activity.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal mango flowering update
« on: April 13, 2019, 10:17:50 PM »
Another friends Aloha mango tree


Tropical Fruit Discussion / 2019 Indian Mango Season
« on: April 13, 2019, 09:11:08 PM »
A good friend just called me up and notified me that the local Indian supermarkets have their shipment of Indian Mangos in.

Here is a thread from last year.

From past experience, I know that the early Mangos are usually not in their prime but I decided to buy anyways. They had three varieties available. Alphonso was 37.99 a box, Banganpalli was 34.99 a box and Rajapuri was 34.99 a box.

I bought a box of Rajapuri. When they opened up the box, the Mangos were all green and relatively small considering that Rajapuri is a large mango that can get over a pound each.

The early Mangos are usually about 70-80% of their prime so Iím not expecting to be wowed by these fruit but Iím glad the Indian Mango season has begun


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where can I buy cherimoyas in NorCal?
« on: April 13, 2019, 02:30:06 PM »
Kim, do you think your late season fruit is actually a hybrid or a full Cherimoya? If itís a good tasting Cherimoya, it would be a great variety to spread around to extend the season for those that donít want to leaf strip to get a second crop.

Merce3, Iíve seen fresh Cherimoya fruit for sale at 99 Ranch market on Claremont Mesa Blvd in San Diego so other Asian markets may have them as well.

Try looking up local Asian supermarkets around your area and then giving them a call so you donít have to waste gas driving around.


Those are big panicles and are weighing Dow the branches. You can remove 2/3 of each panicle. If you completely remove two panicles and leave one, the tree will likely re bloom beneath your cut.


For the blooms, just leave them for now as gozp mentioned and you can remove them when they are pea to marble size. Alternatively, if your average nightly lows are 62F or above, you can remove the blooms/fruit regardless of the size of the fruit. When you remove the blooms/fruit, cut below where the panicle started and above a node facing the direction where you want a future branch to be.

If the flower panicles becomes too heavy and starts to cause the stem to droop, you can cut about half the panicle off to relieve some of the weight.


Citrus General Discussion / Re: Grafting Question: Advice Needed
« on: April 10, 2019, 10:56:13 PM »
Have you tried a mild drench with some fertilizer? That may be enough to wake it up.


Damn, thatís a huge tree. Can you even harvest the fruit at the top? I guess with so much fruit, it doesnít matter if some goes to waste. Thanks for sharing the picture.


Ideally the ratio is 1 to 5 or 1 to 6 on P to K (not 1 to 1 as this product is). Diluting doesn't change the ratio. Also want to make sure it has a good micronutrient package.

Iíve been using 0-10-10 products for around 2 decades with great success. You can just use it for your P-K and combine it with other products to get a ratio you want.

Since he has the fertilizer already, he shouldnít just throw it away. Mangos and other fruit actually use some Nitrogen in blooming and fruit formation. Usually some residual complete fertilizer from slow release(summer fertilizer) or saved up in the wood of the trees is enough for the tree when combined with 0-10-10 or similar to stimulate good blooms and initial fruit set.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 50 mango tree orchard- 1 year update
« on: April 09, 2019, 09:37:41 PM »
Awesome update on your orchard. I love the selection of Mangos you planted. I hope you like eating bannanas because it looks like youíll be swimming in them soon. Please keep us updated!


You can still use that product but just dilute it to about one third of what the manufacturer recommends. When you have too much Phosphorus, you can inhibit some of the micronutrients that are especially important for growing Mangos in SoCal. Manganese and Zinc are very important for Mangos growing here so you may want to occasionally spray and or drench with Southern Ag Citrus nutritional spray or a similar micronutrient supplement.


As long as the tree looks healthy and is growing vigorously, it should make good rootstock. Many random mango seeds have grown well for me.


Calamondins are awesome if you like tart fruit. My Filipino friends squeeze the juice over their Pancit noodles.

I donít like Tart fruit but I grow Miracle fruit which makes sour taste sweet so I make calamansi ade, calamansi+ water+ice and just take a Miracle Fruit before drinking and it makes the best juice.

I find the taste and aroma of the Calamansi one of the best amongst citrus but it is so Tart that I canít eat it out of hand.

Because of its extremely tart flavor, it is my number one favorite antioxidant and flavoring agent to add acid balance to my fresh squeezed Sugarcane juice. The Calamansi juice prevents the juice from turning brown and also gives the Sugarcane juice a fantastic flavor.

My major issue with Calamansi is their small size and their high seed count.


I agree with Frank. You may have a bit more droopiness but you can just trim off the growth that is growing downward.


Use the search function from this forum to find a lot of information.

In Summary, you canít really tell unless you use genetic markers.

For some Polyembryonic mango varieties, the dominant seedling is the clone but in other varieties, the weaker seedling is the clone.

If you work with a specific variety for a long time you may become familiar with it and be able to take educated guesses.

If you have a Polyembryonic seed and multiple sprouts come up, I would recommend you grow out at least two of the seedlings and there will be a chance you will get a clone.

A Polyembryonic seed can have more than one zygotic seedling come up and Monoembryonic variety seeds can have multiple sprouts but usually with one origin for the root so it is a very complicated subject.


It looks like Iron or possibly Manganese deficiency since itís affecting the younger growth.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal mango flowering update
« on: April 05, 2019, 09:23:39 PM »
White Piri


Valencia Pride


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal mango flowering update
« on: April 05, 2019, 09:20:46 PM »
Peach Cobbler


Kesar seedling


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