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so what dose the fruit taste like????

Hey Patrick, It has a plum flavor with a tropical overtone (not quite pineapple). The flavor is best (IMO) when you leave it on the tree to get soft. The downside is that it is a large seed on a small fruit (i.e. it wouldn't replace an actual plum). But I like the flavor and definitely think it's worth growing.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Kwai Muk Seeds!
« on: September 20, 2018, 12:36:42 PM »
Mike, got my seeds, thanks! And thanks for the extras!

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From personal experience the root system has never been much of a problem for me. I have a 15ft tall tree with a trunk diamete of over a foot right next to my storage garage. I started it from a cutting. There is also a waterline next to it approximately 6 feet away and itís has gotten no damage. My tree has been in the ground for 12 years. During pruning I usually just stick the cut branches in the ground and they root readily however I do dispose of them after some time usually a year. They have a vigorous root system but itís nothing that will break through a wall. I also have a three year old plant that is in a seed bed that I left to grow right next to my fence and it has not compromised it. IDE recommend you planting it at least 5 feed from the wall or structure just as a precaution but personally you have nothing to worry about in terms of roots.

Nayelie,

Thanks for the comment, this is the level of detailed feedback I was looking for (whether good or bad)! And I am very glad to hear that your experience is a positive one.

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I have two Spondias purpurea. I really love the trees. They grow fast, take the heat, have beautiful foliage and I like the fruit! I have one in the ground and one in 5 gallon bucket. Both trees are ~6 ft tall.

So I have a question for those that have been growing them for awhile:

The one in the pot will eventually go in the ground. I have a potential spot for it that is next to a block wall and some pool equipment (there used to be a large queen palm there).

I know the Spondias purpurea will grow great there (will take the heat and sun just fine). But what about the roots? Will the root system eventually cause a problem with these nearby structures and equipment? The tree is from a rooted cutting (not a seedling tree). I would think that would tend to make the root system less invasive, but I am not basing that off anything except a gut feel.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Cherimoya/Pawpaw hybrid
« on: September 19, 2018, 09:44:09 AM »

4) i think a comparison of seed-to-flesh ratio of pawpaw and cherimoya would be interesting. Pawpaw is considered pretty "seedy" except for a few varieties particularly from Neal Peterson. Cherimoyas do have a lot of seeds, in a sense, but they are small and easily avoided. Pawpaw seeds are a little more annoying.

Take care!!

It's funny because it is all relative. After eating lots of sugar apples that have *tons* of seeds, I don't think cherimoyas are all that seedy! It all depends on your basis of view :)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: Florida Avocado Seeds
« on: September 17, 2018, 04:35:03 PM »
Anybody in FL harvesting avocados yet?

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I can offer 40 fruits for $35 shipped from Florida to the US address via Priority mail (1-3 days). I have plenty of flacourtia indica fruits.

Please start your own thread with the prices that you offer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jumbo Sweet Tart
« on: September 11, 2018, 04:23:21 PM »
whoaaa!!!!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: Florida Avocado Seeds
« on: September 11, 2018, 12:24:05 PM »
I was wondering if anybody has been harvesting avocados in FL and has any seeds available?

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I bought pitomba seeds from you last year and got nearly 100% germination! Thanks Mark!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madness! ! Jabuticabas !!
« on: September 01, 2018, 10:22:01 AM »
Adhemar, The rules for posting For Sale items on this board is to include prices in the post.  See: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23685.0 . I have asked you to include prices in my first 2 comments above. I have even sent you a PM about this.

Please edit the main post to include the prices or I will take down this post.

Hi Mark, can i suggest you just move this post to Tropical Fruit heading? I tried to post the prices by going to Adhemar's website, but don't see prices there either. I got to visit Adhemar when i was in Brazil. He probably has one of the best collection of jaboticabas in all of Brazil, so that means one of best, if not THE best, collections on the planet. He is also very knowledgeable.  Would be a shame for people to lose the link to his website and his great photos. I'm surprised he posted at all. His english is not great, but he does understand a little bit, especially written language. Very nice guy, Was a good host.


I think that is a good suggestion Oscar.

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Brian, I sent you a PM, please check your messages

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madness! ! Jabuticabas !!
« on: August 31, 2018, 09:24:19 AM »
Adhemar, The rules for posting For Sale items on this board is to include prices in the post.  See: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23685.0 . I have asked you to include prices in my first 2 comments above. I have even sent you a PM about this.

Please edit the main post to include the prices or I will take down this post.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madness! ! Jabuticabas !!
« on: August 30, 2018, 11:36:09 AM »
Adhemar, Please edit the post to include prices for all items that are for sale.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madness! ! Jabuticabas !!
« on: August 30, 2018, 09:25:15 AM »
Those are beautiful! But there are no prices. Do you mean to post on Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell, Trade or was this supposed to go on Tropical Fruit Discussion?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to Buy MangoSeeds in US?
« on: August 24, 2018, 01:37:50 PM »
Not legal or likely for Sidd and other Californian's.
Ohh, right. Didn't think about that.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Where to Buy MangoSeeds in US?
« on: August 24, 2018, 10:19:26 AM »
order primo mangoes from forum members, eat them, and then plant the seeds. Better than just buying seeds.

Yep! I have been doing exactly this.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Spice Mangos
« on: August 24, 2018, 10:03:12 AM »
Getting back to original question,  have you tried ST Maui ?  the ones I tried had that spiciness, to them but not overwhelming.  firm flesh, 

I have not, but I have heard very good things from many people. So I will definitely seek that one out. Thanks!

regarding fiber in mangoes,  I have noticed lots of variation due to cultural practices in some varieties,  such as Keitt.  have had some that were virtually fiberless, and others that have had moderate fiber.    I suspect Nitrogen being a factor.

Ahhhh!!!!! This is making sense now. As I mentioned above, this was basically a 'rescue' tree in 2016: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=29254.msg330995#msg330995 Trunk was sunburned and cracked with several dead branches. So I was nursing it back in 2017 and did give in a fair amount of nitrogen to get it to start to grow vegetatively again. And it recovered nicely.

But with the nitrogen still in the soil, it must have given the fruit fibers it would not normally have. That is a great observation! This makes sense and I think is the factor here. Besides your observation, I can make two of my own:

1. If citrus is given too much nitrogen you get a much thicker skin/pith (which is basically fiber) than you would otherwise. This happens in AZ in young citrus trees when you fertilize to establish them. They grow out of it when they have acclimated to the environment.

2. All my other mangos that I have not been fertilizing as heavily were essentially fiberless. Especially the varities that I grow that you expect no fiber in: Carrie, Angie and Alphonso in particular.

This was a great discussion, thank you all for making these observations about my Sunrise!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Spice Mangos
« on: August 23, 2018, 08:13:55 PM »
Could they have been harvested too soon?  That green is really dark, an unripe green color.  I have seen better quality with a much more advanced yellow color turn. Maybe even weather conditions playing a role.

Maybe? But when they get the yellow specs on the skin like Jeff was observing (and they yield to gentle pressure when they are at that stage while hanging on the tree) and I pick them, they are ready to eat in 1-2 days. So they seem pretty close to tree ripe.

Most of the ones I picked were like that. I was experimenting with picking them mature green but without the yellow specs and they take 5-7 days to ripen on the counter that way.

The flavor is similar in both cases, but I think that taste a little better / fuller when they are at the yellow spec stage.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Spice Mangos
« on: August 23, 2018, 08:02:20 PM »
OK. I'm not sure what leads to the fiber. Finding fiber near the seed is not abnormal for sunrise if memory serves.

Your description of flavor sounds like sunrise.

In your picture of 3 mangoes above, the one on the bottom left corner looks most like sunrise -- those little yellow specs, the slanted nose and the stem attachment are typical. The green / yellow color is also typical when the fruit is in the shade. Size is off though.

Thanks for the thoughts Jeff!

Yeah, this was the first year that I got a crop off this tree (bought as a neglected and sunburned 25 gallon in 2016, nursed it back in 2017, happy in 2018). I got about 2 dozen mangos this summer.

This summer in AZ was particularly brutal. I have been keeping daily temperature measurements in my yard for 5 years and this summer was the worst. I am wondering if the fiber is a defense mechanism? Or maybe heat stress induced => smaller size, less flesh for the same amount of fiber?

But what is weird is that summer I also got mangos off my Pickering, Carrie, Angie, Juicy Peach, Sweet Tart and Alphonso that were not fibrous at all. Very strange.

At any rate, I just ordered some Sunrise budwood from Alex. I will graft to this tree and so that I can compare mangos from the graft and from the main tree side-by-side to confirm this tree is Sunrise or something different.

Yeah, it is very stringy near the skin. it is very noticeable and makes it hard to scoop a bite if you cut off the cheek, because of those fibers. (unlike scooping bites from fiberless mangos like carrie or angie or edward which are easy to scoop out because of the lack of fiber).

Again, this isn't a crazy amount of fiber, but certainly not what I would call fiberless.

Yeah, most of the mangos grew in the shade of the tree. A couple grew in the sun and got orange on the faces that saw the sun.

I am wondering if the size is off because the tree is still relatively small. It is maybe 8ft x 6ft. I did notice a lot of size variation in the mangos too. My Carrie tree is also small and the Carries I got off it are about 1/2-3/4 the size of the ones from Florida. I am wondering though if that might be a heat stress issue too. We did get up to about 120 F a couple of times this summer in both June and July. Which is hot even for here. A couple of 115 F days in June is more typical and we just got walloped with the heat extremes + heat duration this summer.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Spice Mangos
« on: August 23, 2018, 04:29:56 PM »
Thanks for the thoughts Jeff!

Yeah, this was the first year that I got a crop off this tree (bought as a neglected and sunburned 25 gallon in 2016, nursed it back in 2017, happy in 2018). I got about 2 dozen mangos this summer.

This summer in AZ was particularly brutal. I have been keeping daily temperature measurements in my yard for 5 years and this summer was the worst. I am wondering if the fiber is a defense mechanism? Or maybe heat stress induced => smaller size, less flesh for the same amount of fiber?

But what is weird is that summer I also got mangos off my Pickering, Carrie, Angie, Juicy Peach, Sweet Tart and Alphonso that were not fibrous at all. Very strange.

At any rate, I just ordered some Sunrise budwood from Alex. I will graft to this tree and so that I can compare mangos from the graft and from the main tree side-by-side to confirm this tree is Sunrise or something different.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Indian Spice Mangos
« on: August 23, 2018, 02:32:56 PM »
is it a mallika?  looks like my mallika.

I have had tasted mallika from different sources. This one definitely doesn't taste like mallika. Mallika is rich and smooth textured (kind of like how Edward is rich and smooth textured) but with a citrusy-spicy flavor. This mango has some of those flavors but the spiciness and the piney-ness is not like Mallika and the texture is definitely not like Mallika.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ensete superbum / Cliff Banana
« on: August 23, 2018, 02:28:16 PM »
Yes, The fruit is edible, quite sweet, but too many seeds. I am growing two, but they have not fruited.

Thanks for the feedback!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Achachairu Growing Information Please
« on: August 22, 2018, 11:09:30 PM »
I know I'm changing the subject, but what about growing an Igna edilus?  I had several and most just died.  I have some in my room on a heat pad and they seem like they're trying to grow, but not all that well.  It says zones 9-11 on the internet, but I'm afraid to take them outside.  Any ideas?

Thread jacking your own thread? Bold move sir! ... :)

I have had no problem spouting Inga (edulis, spectabilis, feuielli, vera). Direct sow into ground or pots in summer and they grow like crazy. My problem is keeping them alive through the winter. I have had several (including a 5 ft spectabilis seedling) die from my 9b winter.

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I am so sorry you all are having to go through this. Please stay safe.

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