Author Topic: Ichang Papeda search. (Read 5170 times)

Zitrusgaertner · « **Reply #25 on:** February 13, 2018, 07:13:15 AM »

Thank you! I knew they don't come true, but my second plant which bloomed already produced a tiny fruit (that fell off) and the shape was very IVIA-like (so to say) But -to be true- the two plants differ a little bit. Let's see. In any case the one in my garden is quite hardy. It took -15° without protection as a young plant. Now it is more than 1m high and new branches miss any spines. That is strange and does not match with the potted tree.

mikkel · « **Reply #26 on:** February 13, 2018, 07:51:10 AM »

Robert, do you have a picture of your Ichang Papeda?

Zitrusgaertner · « **Reply #27 on:** February 13, 2018, 03:40:14 PM »

Mikkel yes, but I should make a better one. Young leaves are red or reddish. Very interesting is, that mature branches seem to be thornless. At least on the one Ichang papeda in ground. The other one potted has spines. It has flowered 2017 the first time.

Florian · « **Reply #28 on:** February 14, 2018, 06:47:58 AM »

Welcome, Robert! I'd also love to see pictures of your plants.

Zitrusgaertner · « **Reply #29 on:** February 15, 2018, 07:54:36 AM »

This is my bad picture

Zitrusgaertner · « **Reply #30 on:** February 15, 2018, 07:58:20 AM »

As you might see the twigs on top (they are the youngest) do not have thorns. I guess they will flower this year. As I mentioned the flush is red.

mikkel · « **Reply #31 on:** February 15, 2018, 08:02:58 AM »

Thanks! Nice plant!
Are fruits of your I.P. IVIA like other I.P. IVIAs? Are they consumable?

Citradia · « **Reply #32 on:** February 15, 2018, 08:03:12 AM »

Is it possible that some seeds from Ichangensis fruit may produce a true Ichangensis? It can self pollinate, no? If not, it is probably worth trying to plant seeds from Ichangensis fruit to get more random cold-hardy hybrids, right?

Zitrusgaertner · « **Reply #33 on:** February 15, 2018, 08:20:23 AM »

Mikkel wrote: Are fruits of your I.P. IVIA like other I.P. IVIAs? Are they consumable?

I did not yet have fruits on this plant. One tiny fruit appeared on my potted IVIA (which is a bit different) but fell off. It resembled an IVIA-fruit. which reminds me of Melarosa Lemon.

Ilya11 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 15, 2018, 09:10:44 AM »

Robert,
Do you remember the size of its flowers?
IVIA from Lenzi nursery has enormous flowers with pink hue.

Ilya11 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 15, 2018, 09:15:29 AM »

Quote from: Citradia on February 15, 2018, 08:03:12 AM

Is it possible that some seeds from Ichangensis fruit may produce a true Ichangensis? It can self pollinate, no? If not, it is probably worth trying to plant seeds from Ichangensis fruit to get more random cold-hardy hybrids, right?

Yes indeed, when self-pollinated it will give ichangensis plants, but they will be different from each other. This species is very heterogeneous, with flowers of varying colors and sizes, from tall trees to small bushes.

Zitrusgaertner · « **Reply #36 on:** February 15, 2018, 09:35:52 AM »

Ilya, the flower was not very big. But it was its first flower ever and there was only one flower on my potted tree. The one in ground has much bigger leaves and maybe will have bigger flowers. In fact it is very interesting that C ichangensis from seed is that heterogenous. Every single grain should be grown!

Florian · « **Reply #37 on:** February 15, 2018, 12:17:04 PM »

Flowers on mine aren't enormous either but they do have a pink hue. And new growth is reddish.

Citradia · « **Reply #38 on:** February 16, 2018, 10:11:14 AM »

Thanks for the information, Ilya. I'm growing seeds from two different Ichangensis trees and noticed some seedlings have large petiole and some from other location don't have petiole and resemble an orange or other mandarin leaf. They are all narrow and pointy leaves though, online the Ichang lemon seedlings growing next to them, which have rounded larger leaves in comparison.

Zitrusgaertner · « **Reply #39 on:** February 16, 2018, 10:43:40 AM »

Citradia, interesting that ohne of your Papedas does not have winged petioles. If you take a close look at my (verx bad) picture you can see that there are no wings on the quite big leaves on the upright (highest) twig. The youngest leaves are much bigger than older foliage and they do not have winged petioles and there are no thorns. Very unusual for Ichang papeda, I suppose.

Citradia · « **Reply #40 on:** February 16, 2018, 02:02:48 PM »

Well Zitrusgaerner, it sounds to me according to Ilya, that almost all seedlings from Ichangensis are actually hybrids of Ichangensis, so our plants aren't true Ichang papeda, no?

mikkel · « **Reply #41 on:** February 16, 2018, 02:10:10 PM »

still true Ichang Papedas but not identical ones

Ilya11 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 16, 2018, 02:42:38 PM »

It really depends if it is flowering alone or bees and bumblebees are hybridizing it with other citruses

Zitrusgaertner · « **Reply #43 on:** February 16, 2018, 03:32:31 PM »

I suppose yo are right, Citradia. Obviously this hybrid is hardy enough for my climate that's the point.

Citradia · « **Reply #44 on:** February 16, 2018, 07:48:59 PM »

Well I hope my seedlings prove to be hardy and produce descent quality fruit too. May all our papedas be blessed.

Zitrusgaertner · « **Reply #45 on:** February 18, 2018, 11:40:23 AM »

Some better pictures (hope so) of my outdoor Ichang papeda IVIA.

Zitrusgaertner · « **Reply #46 on:** February 18, 2018, 11:52:57 AM »

Potted Ichang papeda IVIA. Of same age as outdoor in ground specimen.

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