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"TPK" mango?
« on: July 04, 2017, 08:58:02 PM »
I have a 5 year old mango tree with the label TPK. Does anyone recognize this? The tree did not bear fruit this year, and is a relatively small tree, upright in growth habit. I cans see it has dried remnants of wild Momordica Charantia vine which likely smothered the tree last year. Any help would be appreciated, thanks.

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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2017, 09:12:15 PM »
Probably PPK

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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #2 on: July 04, 2017, 09:32:04 PM »
Probably Thom Pi Kan (aka Tong Pykun)
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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2017, 09:55:11 PM »
A pic of the tree with close ups of the leaves would help.
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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #4 on: July 04, 2017, 10:11:08 PM »
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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2017, 07:37:00 AM »
I will take some pics today, but it's likely to be Thom Pi Kan (aka Tong Pykun). Probably not PPK because there are at least two of those properly labeled as "Lemon Meringue" bearing in the grove. The tags were short and they abbreviated some of them. There are several Thai varieties like Okrung, Pim Sen Mun, Nam Doc Mai, Falan, Coc, etc. present. Thanks.

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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2017, 07:55:51 AM »
I will take some pics today, but it's likely to be Thom Pi Kan (aka Tong Pykun). Probably not PPK because there are at least two of those properly labeled as "Lemon Meringue" bearing in the grove. The tags were short and they abbreviated some of them. There are several Thai varieties like Okrung, Pim Sen Mun, Nam Doc Mai, Falan, Coc, etc. present. Thanks.

While its not impossible ti be thus variety,  I would add that I dont know any nursery who propagates it or who has propagated it.  Some pictures of the leaves may help.

Also, for reference, Coc is Vietnamese, not Thai.
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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2017, 06:26:12 PM »
Here are pics of the tree labeled TPK.







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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2017, 06:40:41 PM »
The wavy leaf margins resemble those of PPK.
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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2017, 07:35:23 PM »
Since there may be interested folks here with knowledge of and interest in Asian mangoes, I will put two more unidentified trees within this post. I'd like anyone's opinions on ID for these also, and thanks.
The first tree is large and vigorous, even larger and wider than several nearby Valencia Pride trees. The mango is very large, but almost every one gets heavy anthacnose mainly along the upper shoulder area and drops off. I haven't had a well ripened one yet, but seed is very thin and long. Bears in clusters of 2 and sometimes 3 fruits.
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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2017, 07:47:32 PM »
The second tree is a mid-size tree, comparable to a nearby Nam Doc Mai. The mangoes are not yet ripened, while NDM and Pim Sen Mun, and Okrung are currently ripe in the orchard. The fruit bears in larger clusters up to 5-6 and fruit is larger but far more slender  than most of the previously mentioned Asian types I have.
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In this pic the tree of interest is at center of the image:


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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2017, 10:33:42 AM »
The second one is shaped like Elephant Tusk.   Elephant Tusk is very mild when ripe, (or "flavorless"), extremely smooth texture, almost translucent, gelatin-like.  It is more appreciated green.

That may be Mango Bacterial Black Spot.
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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #12 on: July 07, 2017, 10:35:38 AM »
The third one appears to be 'Pram Kai Mea".  Translation:  "priest trade wife"---for these mangos!
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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2017, 07:47:51 PM »
Thanks very much for your information, Har. I will do some research and try to find out if what is happening to those fruit is the MBBS, looking for the halo, get someone who knows it, etc. I do see that many of the infections happen where 2 or more fruit rub together. Individual fruits on their own aren't affected as much, it appears.

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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #14 on: July 07, 2017, 10:07:58 PM »
The second one is shaped like Elephant Tusk.   Elephant Tusk is very mild when ripe, (or "flavorless"), extremely smooth texture, almost translucent, gelatin-like.  It is more appreciated green.

That may be Mango Bacterial Black Spot.
OK, I finally got around to having a good one of these ripened fully. Yes, flavorless ripe, smooth. I have some customers who want green mango and these are nearly the largest I grow, so it should be a 'money tree' as it produces well.

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Re: "TPK" mango?
« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2017, 06:36:59 PM »
2nd reminds me of cat hoa loc, while third looks like ivory.


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