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Per Roger Meyer, Atemoya and Ilama are separate species, Genova Red is not Ilama, but an Atemoya. Are we discussing Ilama OR Genova Red here?Per Harry, He has Genova Red and he swears by it being one of the best. So, are we looking for Ilama OR Genova Red?
Quote from: behlgarden on May 03, 2012, 06:59:37 PMPer Roger Meyer, Atemoya and Ilama are separate species, Genova Red is not Ilama, but an Atemoya. Are we discussing Ilama OR Genova Red here?Per Harry, He has Genova Red and he swears by it being one of the best. So, are we looking for Ilama OR Genova Red?With all due respect to Roger Meyer, if you are quoting him correctly, Genova Red is one of three cultivars of Ilama (annona diversifloia) that Zills distributed in the 90's. The others being Pajapita and Guillermo. Har can confrirm this as he was with Zills at that time and was involved in the production and distribution of them at that time. Genova red is absolutely an Ilama and is absolutely not an atemoya.Harry
Does anyone in So. Cal has Genova Red? Wondering how it does in local climate and whether it can be grafted on to Cherimoya rootstock. Would love to get some budwood.
Ilama can indeed be grafted to cherimoya. Harry has one that I grafted a couple of years back. Whether it increases cold tolerance is unknown.Quote from: behlgarden on May 01, 2012, 12:53:53 PMDoes anyone in So. Cal has Genova Red? Wondering how it does in local climate and whether it can be grafted on to Cherimoya rootstock. Would love to get some budwood.
Quote from: Cookie Monster on May 04, 2012, 08:46:39 PMIlama can indeed be grafted to cherimoya. Harry has one that I grafted a couple of years back. Whether it increases cold tolerance is unknown.Quote from: behlgarden on May 01, 2012, 12:53:53 PMDoes anyone in So. Cal has Genova Red? Wondering how it does in local climate and whether it can be grafted on to Cherimoya rootstock. Would love to get some budwood.They do take to cherimoya. I had 2 take but what rootstock do you guys use in Florida to graft Ilamas?
Hi Harry,Got response from Roger"The Ilama-Genova Red controversy came from a book called "Cornucopia II". The author, Steve Facciola, misidentified Genova Red. It is actually an Atemoya (1/2 Cherimoya and 1/2 Sugar Apple.) I grafted the Genova Red plant so I know what it is"Thoughts? I am trying to get Genova Red Ilama or budwood. Wondering my options here.
Harry, Thanks. Yes, the fruit may not look like Ilama of yours and that is what I want. Yes, please keep me in mind in your scion distribution, would love to get few other things (sent you PM's), will pay expided shipping and other costs as you may see fit.Thanks. BTW, do you want more buddy tape? got two rolls up for take.
Not sure what Cornucopia says, nor what Steve Facciola thinks, but what I know as Genova Red, from Zills is not cherimoya or sugar apple whatsoever. It doesn't look like either, nevermind a half and half cross of the two. I have to beg to differ with what Roger is saying. I can send you budwood. I have about 30 pending reuests for scions of various trees. I try not to say no to anyone. I'm a bit innundated at the moment but will try to get you some as soon as I can.Harry