Interesting post, Citradia. I have been searching for quite some time a place in the USA with a climate similar to my city (Florence) to make accurate comparison between USA growers experience and my experiences, and i though that NC was the most similar place, on east coast, climate-wise, to Florence. Apparently this doen't seem the case: My satsuma (miyagawa) ripened about a month ago (well, at least, i did consider them ripe, they were fine flavor-wise, even if they were alittle more green than yours). So i must assume i screwed something comparing climates? Who knows...