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Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« Reply #25 on: January 13, 2019, 07:11:30 AM »
We have about 10 or so different varieties like Gigantea, Haysa, etc..  Our problem with sapodillas is over production, which really is not a problem unless your loooking for a fast growing tree.  I apply very  small inputs of compost, anything carbon, raw manure at least every 3 mos...  This is probably one of the easiest to grow and easily fruiting trees we grow.  We have recently installed after 3 years an Artesian drip system with a calcium carbonate infused water.



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Gigantea planted as 3 gal. Last year first fruiting.

Haysa, 2nd crop 3 years in ground planted as 3 gal.

Ice Cream Bananas 12 fruitings from one 3 gal. Initial planting in less than two years.

Sylas Wood first year in ground from 3 gal. First fruiting

Nem nun sun from Excalibur. Not sure what this is. I bought as 3 gal. 3 years ago but transplanted here from my beach house last year has about 6 fruit

Another transplant from my beach house last year 2nd fruiting has about 12 fruit. Not sure what variety is good but has excellent flavor some grit.
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Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« Reply #26 on: January 13, 2019, 07:49:29 PM »
Was a recording made of this talk?

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Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« Reply #27 on: January 13, 2019, 09:33:21 PM »
Was a recording made of this talk?

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Not that I’m aware of.

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Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2019, 11:53:00 PM »
We have about 10 or so different varieties like Gigantea, Haysa, etc..  Our problem with sapodillas is over production, which really is not a problem unless your loooking for a fast growing tree.  I apply very  small inputs of compost, anything carbon, raw manure at least every 3 mos...  This is probably one of the easiest to grow and easily fruiting trees we grow.  We have recently installed after 3 years an Artesian drip system with a calcium carbonate infused water.



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Gigantea planted as 3 gal. Last year first fruiting.

Haysa, 2nd crop 3 years in ground planted as 3 gal.

Ice Cream Bananas 12 fruitings from one 3 gal. Initial planting in less than two years.

Sylas Wood first year in ground from 3 gal. First fruiting

Nem nun sun from Excalibur. Not sure what this is. I bought as 3 gal. 3 years ago but transplanted here from my beach house last year has about 6 fruit

Another transplant from my beach house last year 2nd fruiting has about 12 fruit. Not sure what variety is good but has excellent flavor some grit.

So from one single ice cream banana plant, you’ve had 12 crops of fruit in less than 2years?  I just don’t see how that’s even remotely possible. How are you doing this?
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Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2019, 06:36:53 AM »
He said one 3 gal. so the pot could have had 3-4 suckers peeping and then 3-4 suckers each in the rattoon so it's possible.

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Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2019, 10:14:00 AM »
Right. I think he means the group. They do expand their territory quite rapidly.

He said one 3 gal. so the pot could have had 3-4 suckers peeping and then 3-4 suckers each in the rattoon so it's possible.
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Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2019, 11:48:30 AM »
I have a Prolific Sapodilla about 10 ft tall. It has been blooming profusely three years in a row but no fruits. A smaller 7 ft Hasya about 15 feet apart has already produced about 10 fruit last year.
Should I get rid of the Prolific this year and replace it with another variety - Alano or Makok or a newer variety from Zill.
Any opinions?

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Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2019, 12:33:43 PM »
I have a Prolific Sapodilla about 10 ft tall. It has been blooming profusely three years in a row but no fruits. A smaller 7 ft Hasya about 15 feet apart has already produced about 10 fruit last year.
Should I get rid of the Prolific this year and replace it with another variety - Alano or Makok or a newer variety from Zill.
Any opinions?

I could be wrong but I think prolific is an older grittier cultivar. You could replace it with something higher quality if you aren't into the grit. Some people like it. The Hasya definitely likes cross pollination though.
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Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2019, 02:58:54 PM »
I have a Prolific Sapodilla about 10 ft tall. It has been blooming profusely three years in a row but no fruits. A smaller 7 ft Hasya about 15 feet apart has already produced about 10 fruit last year.
Should I get rid of the Prolific this year and replace it with another variety - Alano or Makok or a newer variety from Zill.
Any opinions?

Perhaps consider top working it with a more productive variety like Alano. You may also consider girdling it to see if that will encourage it to fruit.

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Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2019, 05:37:30 PM »
Thank you guys. I will replace it with an Alano and maybe add a Mamey next to it. If I plant it close to the lake will water logging hurt the plant?  I can expect waterlogging for 2-3 weeks in the year if I plant them closer to the water. If the mamey and Alano dont like waterlogging, I can plant it about 20 ft away on higher ground. What do you guys think about Mamey or Sapodilla water requirements.

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Re: Sapodilla talk tonight, Sarasota/Venice
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2019, 07:37:30 PM »
Mamey are not tolerant of flooding. Sapodilla have better flood tolerance but can be killed by it as well (personal experience).

Your Hasya is likely enjoying the cross pollination from the Prolific. Hopefully whatever you replace it with can take on the same role relatively quickly or you could see a reduction in the Hasya’s fruit production.