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Has there been experiences with Lablab? Cover crop Sesbania (not the ornamental kind)?

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@jez251, those trees you posted could be used in espalier and be dwarfed.

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This is very interesting idea: if this works out, then planting longan lower could be feasible for increasing root mass.

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What time do you think those jackfruit are going to ripen?

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I've been recently looking into cowpeas and sunn hemp for cover crops until temperatures lower for planting in the fall and am yet to order seeds of the Iron and Clay variety. They would aerate the soil, fix nitrogen and then be used as an intercrop with fruit trees. Comfrey is noted as in invasive plant in most places, so if you are interested, you should look for plants that are sterile, but produce sideshoots. As for me, I don' t think it would be as invasive than in other places, but plants would have to be ordered live to my location because they don't produce seeds. Most moringa casual growers here cut back their morniga severely to the main stem in the winter so it is easier to frost protect. It consistently comes back in the spring, so it is not an issue. Another non nitro fixation but high biomass can be duckweed. Some nonprofit organizations give away free duckweed to those interest here in the Valley, but received high competition against moringa. They both have high protein and are both eaten, but duckweed is mainly used for a aquaponics system. Of course, you can always compost duckweed, but it is mostly used in tilapia cultivation. Duckweed competes with string algae for sunlight, so if the strtig algae is taken out and fed to tilapia (they are in separate tanks), then it feeds the fish. The fish dirty water is used for growing duckweed. Ethrynia is more of an ornamental tree so it it can't be mulched back in. here is a pdf from Arizona:
http://extension.arizona.edu/pubs/az1519.pdf
@Vernmented, what Yonemoto pdfs do you speak of? Can you provide a link

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: dwarf maher
« on: April 20, 2015, 08:58:13 PM »
They also do well as inground trees and do well here barring cold protection and wind protection. But if you are set on a container, most do well in containers, and and Sri Kembangan is a recommended cultivar. You can try different varieties of starfuit, since potted plants can take advantage of areas with no soil but good sunshine.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: dwarf maher
« on: April 19, 2015, 07:58:20 PM »
I think the topic concerns starfruit.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Persimmon thread
« on: April 18, 2015, 07:42:40 PM »
I bought a 'Fuyu' Persimmon at my local Lowe's for $35.



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ziman pink jackfruit leaves
« on: April 14, 2015, 08:34:51 PM »
Is ziman pink a dwarf cultivar?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Carambola and guava in which pot?
« on: April 14, 2015, 03:38:52 AM »
Plant these in a different pot right away! These plants look horribly root bound, meaning that there is too much root density in that pot, causing the roots to be deformed.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I gots me a fuerte
« on: April 10, 2015, 03:45:49 AM »
Even now, I question my previous statements as more ideas come into play. Neither starch or I have grown avocados here before, but it is known that main cause of death of avocado is salt. Sunburn is alleviated by whitewash and 30% shade cloth. Disliking clay is helped by innoculating holes months before planting, without replacing too much native soil. After reading the article concerning amended holes, I've concluded that soil mix should be least compost possible without killing plants. Slow intial growth is worth the wait in fear of 'rootbound' holes. Therefore, since layering compost long before planting helps naturally work it into the soil, it is a viable ammeding method. The best tropical fruit growers in AZ do a similar method, except compost is worked into the soil instead if letting the black gold seep in. Avocados are special in that they don't like salt, even more than lychee/longan. While it is best to adopt salt - free growing methods, they still get very crispy. The growing from seed is used to select possible rootstocks resistant to salt. There are some, like Duke 7, that take salt very well, but it could be interesting to compare such rootstocks to arizona native cados. My main point is that growing a grafted tree is not worth it because I do not believe that a rootstock can effectively 'filter out' salt. A seedling or Salt tolerant var grafted onto a seedling would be best. Starch would beg to differ.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I gots me a fuerte
« on: April 10, 2015, 03:15:45 AM »
Typically, the longer the taproot, the better the the drought tolerance. In a pot, it hinders the taproot and therefore direct planting in ground from seed is best as well as other benefits. I wrote that post before I knew of the the wide range of cold tolerances of avocado, but for many, like mango which gets damaged at 29F, if grown without  a microclimates, they would fall at a specific temperature. Does a plant produce more 'antifreeze' by varying the cultivar?  ???  Although we speak of cold tolerance often, in a recent post, even starch has said salt tolerance is more important. If seeds are grown from a cold tolerant cultivar typically good to 27F then it is more likely to survive.

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I grow banana as well. Here  is a video from a local nursery:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KSiZCHyrDc
Nursery here sell african rhino horn, ice cream, namwah, mysore , manzano, lakatan red iholene, thousand finger and raja puri, no joke

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: I gots me a fuerte
« on: April 09, 2015, 02:29:55 AM »
Most of the posts about growing avocado in a marginal area came be found at
'Success planting an Avocado after 8 years of failures and 5 dead trees!', while another topic specifically for AZ can be found here:
http://phoenixtropicals.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=748
Thanks for the link, but I've tried to be on top of all things avocado in AZ :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey Sapote & Recommendations
« on: April 06, 2015, 08:35:33 PM »
Tree tomatoes are insipid when compared to other fruits. They can be featured in both savory and sweet dishes, but don't excel in either category. I would go with a regular tomato for savory. Black sapote die back severely in the winter and grow to large trees so it is hard to cover. It is a soft, mushy 'fruit' (not really sweet). It is not sweet and has little flavor, so it is easy to use your imagination to envision chocolate. Most Floridians eat them if their friends has too much fruit to eat by themselves and for alleged 'heath benefits'. Naranjilla is not grown commercially because it shares the same pests as tomatoes and then some. They are simply as slow death and it's easier to grow a fruit that more people have experience with for help. In terms of citrus, you can multi grafting some tahitian pomelo (rated best tasting in taste tests), valentine pomelo (red fleshed pomelo), smith red blood orange (the same flavor & seedlessness as navels, but with a rich maroon color flesh), and try a wampi for experimental. A good idea is to get some jackfruit trees. They don't grow well in AZ, but they do well in CA in a protected/warmer microclimate. It's among my favorite fruits, so not being able to grow it is a bummer (they don't like the winters here). IT IS A MUST! All the good varieties are in FL like bangkok lemon, so you might have to ship some scions. They only take 3 years to fruit, so you can eat jackfruit while you wait for your mamey.
I've grown tree tomato and naranjilla in Southern California and they both did fine. Tree tomato is one of my favorite fruits to add to guacamole. I also enjoy them out of hand? Really love this fruit. Insipid? I think you either have a bad variety or can't grow them well in Arizona. Bit too parched and hot there for these thirsty fruits.
Really? What else do you use tree tomato for other than some good guac  ;) ?
What variety of jackfruit should I try? Thanks.
Bangkok Lemon or Red Morning (also known as Daeng Suria/Dang Suria). 
I second this statement. They say that you never look at jackfruit the same after eating Bangkok Lemon. Red morning has nice color. You might want to look into some jackfruit seedling selections made here on the forum, like a 'Bangkok Lemon' seedling from Sleepdoc, 'zero latex Jackfruit' from Coconut,  or even Harry's Black Gold X Tabouey! In the fall, I too will look into seedling jackfruits, but purely for cold tolerance.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey Sapote & Recommendations
« on: April 04, 2015, 03:12:13 AM »
Tree tomatoes are insipid when compared to other fruits. They can be featured in both savory and sweet dishes, but don't excel in either category. I would go with a regular tomato for savory. Black sapote die back severely in the winter and grow to large trees so it is hard to cover. It is a soft, mushy 'fruit' (not really sweet). It is not sweet and has little flavor, so it is easy to use your imagination to envision chocolate. Most Floridians eat them if their friends has too much fruit to eat by themselves and for alleged 'heath benefits'. Naranjilla is not grown commercially because it shares the same pests as tomatoes and then some. They are simply as slow death and it's easier to grow a fruit that more people have experience with for help. In terms of citrus, you can multi grafting some tahitian pomelo (rated best tasting in taste tests), valentine pomelo (red fleshed pomelo), smith red blood orange (the same flavor & seedlessness as navels, but with a rich maroon color flesh), and try a wampi for experimental. A good idea is to get some jackfruit trees. They don't grow well in AZ, but they do well in CA in a protected/warmer microclimate. It's among my favorite fruits, so not being able to grow it is a bummer (they don't like the winters here). IT IS A MUST! All the good varieties are in FL like bangkok lemon, so you might have to ship some scions. They only take 3 years to fruit, so you can eat jackfruit while you wait for your mamey.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mamey Sapote & Recommendations
« on: April 03, 2015, 02:40:06 AM »
I've never heard any bad things about Lorito...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing loquats in container doable?
« on: March 30, 2015, 08:02:33 PM »
You could try grafting loquat onto a dwarf quince rootstock.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: March 30, 2015, 01:27:01 AM »
Leo's Costa Rican Dragon will be available to those that are willing to drive to Leo's home in late summer.

Hello Nathan, do you have any information on Leo's Costan Dragon? Is that the one he crossed with the S Megalanthus.

Simon
Yes, It's Leo's newest selection. It is a H. costaricensis X S. Megalanthus.  It is a top selection made in 2005 that sports fruit that is NOT spiky, unlike Frankie's Red and S. Megalanthus. It doesn't have any H. Undatus in the mix. It appears to have a dark purple-ish flesh that could be interesting. Leo said on the Yahoo! group that it will be ready by the end of the summer. I don't live in California, so could someone shed some light on experience with it?
The fruit is featured in the second half of ricshaw's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRtO7J6ZKX0

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Since avocado starts up again in the fall for Reeds in CA, there are ways to prep for trees now. Here are some ideas:
Dig a small depression in the ground, and test for draining.
Then dig up the hole deeply, not widely for the taproot.
Mix 5-15% inoculated with mycorrhizae and Organic Gem fish emulsion.
Back fill the hole, leaving a small hole at the top for pure inoculated worm castings to fill with (let some worms in too).
Cover with pine needles and shade.
With the pot, choose a tall, skinny pot (like the ones for $14 citrus from Laverne nursery) so that the tap root is undisturbed.
Fill with same soil mix as the hole. Seed 3 seeds in the hole and let grow for 1 year, or until the canopy is 3/4 as tall as the pot, or last date of frost is gone
Be sure to shade.

In this way, we don't have to amend the soil as much. Any other suggestions?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papaya's
« on: March 15, 2015, 02:15:52 PM »
I usually like to underwater my papayas. I didn't even water my larger one for the last 3 months, because it was the winter. Papayas lose leaves regularly, and as long as the wilt rate is roughly the same as the growth rate, then you're fine.

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I was watching a youtube video in which a stone graft is done with two rootstocks per scion:
https://youtu.be/hzBerXm1WCY?t=19m18s

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greenman62,
How much aloe vera extract do you use per gallon?

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greenman62,
How much aloe vera extract do you use per gallon?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Will sugar apple fruit in So Cal?
« on: March 12, 2015, 07:30:11 PM »

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