Jaboticabaholics Anonymous

[FlyingFoxFruits]

When is a red jabo fully ripe?  I have a few that just turned completely red today.  How many more days until optimal ripeness?

U can eat them early, but they are a bit tart and fibrous.
With Sabara u can't do this...it's too astringent.

I let them sit for more than a week..and the flavor gets intensely sweet.   They seem to last for about 2 weeks after achieving full coloration on the tree...

But birds and animals always find them if you let them sit on the tree too long.

It's great to have them in a greenhouse .... But then aphids get all over them!

I've had some of the sweetest fruit imaginable this season...the fruits are allowed to sit on the trees for over 10 days after turning fully red

[xshen]

When is a red jabo fully ripe?  I have a few that just turned completely red today.  How many more days until optimal ripeness?

U can eat them early, but they are a bit tart and fibrous.
With Sabara u can't do this...it's too astringent.

I let them sit for more than a week..and the flavor gets intensely sweet.   They seem to last for about 2 weeks after achieving full coloration on the tree...

But birds and animals always find them if you let them sit on the tree too long.

It's great to have them in a greenhouse .... But then aphids get all over them!

I've had some of the sweetest fruit imaginable this season...the fruits are allowed to sit on the trees for over 10 days after turning fully red

Thanks for the info Adam. I'm glad I asked. I was about to pick them

[kh0110]

When is a red jabo fully ripe?  I have a few that just turned completely red today.  How many more days until optimal ripeness?

The fruits from my tree are almost black when they're fully ripe and good to eat.

[TheDom]

It may be the addiction talking, but this art popped up on our Chromecast earlier, and I'm pretty sure I'm seeing a depiction of jaboticaba there.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

haha!

i picked a stray fruit off of one of my Grimals today, and it looked just like that!

I hadn't noticed it...and it got huge!

(I will post some pics soon.. I think some might be the size of a ping-pong ball almost...just slightly smaller)

It may be the addiction talking, but this art popped up on our Chromecast earlier, and I'm pretty sure I'm seeing a depiction of jaboticaba there.

[fruitlovers]

Adam, What fertilizer do you recommend for jabos?

I personally use espoma products (holly tone in particular)...but be careful, using too much can easily kill a plant.

I just fertilize using a bit less than what the bag says, and I do it more often...

so light, frequent feedings is ok...(like 3-6  times per year, depending on the size of the tree, and how much fert you put down)

high nitrogen fertilizer on a Myrciaria is like playing with FIRE!

Can you say how much NPK this product has since we don't have that product here?

[Cassio]

Well, cattle and horse dung, tanned, dry and crumbly, are also good fertilizer. They are also much cheaper and they are not chemical, which is better both for plants and for us humans. On the other hand, chemical fertilizers may be more effective.

[raimeiken]

Can you say how much NPK this product has since we don't have that product here?

Here's the product's breakdown

http://www.espoma.com/p_consumer/pdf/products/tones/Esp_Holly.pdf

[fisherking73]

Have been eye balling this beauty at a local nursery, its the only big one, but with a $250 price tag out of my price range for now. I visit her every week (stalker) to see if she is still there since this nursery is blocks from my house. Too bad not a great fruit tree selection, more of an ornamental nursery. Any idea if this is Sabara? Guess on age and time to fruit? It is a fairly large bush about 7-8ft tall, main trunk about 3 inch diameter.  Everytime I see her I think of Adam and want to sneak my shears in and give her a haircut LMAO......  Maybe one day they will get tire of her and put her on clearance or sale   

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Sabara!

I have some now, exact same size tree, but in a 15 gal pot, with fruit hanging on them (small crop) for $200!

(just to give you an idea of the price)

[TnTrobbie]

Thats a nice looking Sabara. PM me that nursery's location. I'll give her a good home :horns: .

[fisherking73]

I am going to talk to the people there and see if that is the best price they can do, if it is will let you know Tn lol If they can do a little better, might take it off their hands. But also might check at Excalibur as they had some about same size, just don't recall if they were Sabara.  I have been trying to resist it, having a red already (not fruiting yet, check it every day LOL) but just seems like a Sabara is NECESSARY as I tell my wife. 

[TnTrobbie]

 . I was only kidding. I got a nice Sabara already and a Red. Looking for a Grimal very soon.

[fisherking73]

Jealous 

[fisherking73]

So finally finished my area where I want to plant my Red Jabo. I built a 4 high retaining wall on nasty slope in my backyard so she could have a level surface to do her thing. I do plan to put a little pitch, eventhough my yard never floods, this is a new low point, so gonna slope it a tad just in case.  It is under a big coco palm, gets about 3-4 hours of direct morning sun (soon to get about another hour when I pull big black olive from front yard that cast shade from sunrise to about 8 in this spot) Then gets filtered light through palm fronds during peak sun, then gets about 1-2 hours late afternoon sun. I hope I picked a spot she likes and will flourish. Added an extra sprinkle head in the pit and converted it to a drip head so she will have her own direct water supply.

[fisherking73]

Also I want to add a few inches of soil (used the dirt here for a frontyard project build up  ) What soil would be good to add to amend to my dirt? Plain old top soil? or some organic nursery planting dirt? something to maybe even  bump the pH down a little more acidic.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

that is a mighty fine shrine.

u don't really need to amend the soil if it's nice and sandy...

but adding lots of mulch, or some other organic matter (like pine bark, peat moss, pine straw, etc...) can be very beneficial.

I'm probably going to use a combination of oak leaves, pine straw, and spanish moss as mulch or ground cover for my grove.

[fisherking73]

Super sandy lol I put some topsoil mixed in cuz needed to fill a bit more.  But probably 60-70% sand.

[Dangermouse01]

Grimal getting close. 


DM

[FlyingFoxFruits]

NICE CROP!  make sure to let them sit on the tree as long as possible...the flavor and pulp texture improves greatly.

from the same batch of plants as my 15 gals!

yours is part of my extended family...

we are all related to Grimal's tree!

and our family tree has roots in Alagoas!

Grimal getting close. 


DM

[Cassio]

Uau! The fruits appears to be big! 3 to 4 cm in diameter, maybe?

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Uau! The fruits appears to be big! 3 to 4 cm in diameter, maybe?

Grimal typically has larger fruit than Sabara (if properly grown)...I have not measured, but I think 3-4cm is close....

Paulista and coronata can be larger for sure.

the flavor of Grimal is unique...having a concord grape taste IMO.

[Dangermouse01]

Uau! The fruits appears to be big! 3 to 4 cm in diameter, maybe?

Grimal typically has larger fruit than Sabara (if properly grown)...I have not measured, but I think 3-4cm is close....

Paulista and coronata can be larger for sure.

the flavor of Grimal is unique...having a concord grape taste IMO.

My larger ones measure a little over 1 inch diameter.

DM

[davidgarcia899]

Uau! The fruits appears to be big! 3 to 4 cm in diameter, maybe?

Grimal typically has larger fruit than Sabara (if properly grown)...I have not measured, but I think 3-4cm is close....

Paulista and coronata can be larger for sure.

the flavor of Grimal is unique...having a concord grape taste IMO.

Idk about your sabaras adam, but if you leave the fruit on my sabara until they are super ripe, like right before they start going bad on the tree....they taste exactly like concord grapes.

[FlyingFoxFruits]

Uau! The fruits appears to be big! 3 to 4 cm in diameter, maybe?

Grimal typically has larger fruit than Sabara (if properly grown)...I have not measured, but I think 3-4cm is close....

Paulista and coronata can be larger for sure.

the flavor of Grimal is unique...having a concord grape taste IMO.

Idk about your sabaras adam, but if you leave the fruit on my sabara until they are super ripe, like right before they start going bad on the tree....they taste exactly like concord grapes.

yes...I know what you are talking about!

I guess the Grimal has this, but a bit different.

I'm starting to think its good to let most of the myrciarias get slightly drier, after the fruits have developed full size and coloration...

it helps hasten the ripening process I believe, and makes them sweeter.